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[PL] The Race to Qualify - Page 10

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nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 03 2010 05:58 GMT
#181
On July 03 2010 14:53 jalstar wrote:
Wow, SKT's playoff spot isn't secure. OZ now needs either SKT, CJ, or WeMade to fail.


holy... ur right.

who would've guessed SKT was so close to the 6th spot, and point differential-wise, isn't that far ahead...
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 03 2010 06:07 GMT
#182
On July 03 2010 14:58 nextstep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 14:53 jalstar wrote:
Wow, SKT's playoff spot isn't secure. OZ now needs either SKT, CJ, or WeMade to fail.


holy... ur right.

who would've guessed SKT was so close to the 6th spot, and point differential-wise, isn't that far ahead...

It would take some seriously bad luck for that to happen.
I think their point differential would save them anyways.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 06:18:26
July 03 2010 06:17 GMT
#183
On July 03 2010 15:07 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 14:58 nextstep wrote:
On July 03 2010 14:53 jalstar wrote:
Wow, SKT's playoff spot isn't secure. OZ now needs either SKT, CJ, or WeMade to fail.


holy... ur right.

who would've guessed SKT was so close to the 6th spot, and point differential-wise, isn't that far ahead...

It would take some seriously bad luck for that to happen.
I think their point differential would save them anyways.


yea, really really bad luck.

assuming SKT loses all their matches, and OZ wins all theirs,
(already a big "if")

SKT will advance if they can get 3 individual player wins out of their two upcoming matches.
or
SKT is safe from OZ if OZ gets 3 individual player losses out of their three upcoming matches.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
DavidCanFly
Profile Joined November 2009
United States35 Posts
July 03 2010 07:26 GMT
#184
Goooooo OZ
12yearsofsc
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece30 Posts
July 03 2010 09:23 GMT
#185
The point is that one of their 2 matches is with OZ. So if OZ 3-0 SKT it becomes closer than it looks
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 16:43:49
July 03 2010 16:32 GMT
#186
Does OZ play one more game than SKT? OZ is 26-26 right now with 3 games left while SKT is 29-23 with two games left. Or am I mistaken?

EDIT: nvm, I can't read. Oz at 26-26 with 3 left and SKT at 29-24 with two left
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 03 2010 17:02 GMT
#187
I really hope OZ qualifies..

PL wont be as exciting without Jaedong .. Switch CJ with oz?
I didn't realize MBC gamehero had such a good record this PL season
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 03 2010 17:03 GMT
#188
On July 04 2010 02:02 NuKedUFirst wrote:
I really hope OZ qualifies..

PL wont be as exciting without Jaedong .. Switch CJ with oz?
I didn't realize MBC gamehero had such a good record this PL season

Eh, it was largely influenced by that monstrous WL run...

Also damn, OZ still makes things interesting for the last two weeks.
Wonder what's going to happen.

Too lazy to do analysis right now yay.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
vance
Profile Joined August 2009
Thailand118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 17:27:53
July 03 2010 17:06 GMT
#189
The point is that one of their 2 matches is with OZ. So if OZ 3-0 SKT it becomes closer than it looks

If the game between OZ and SKT have to go to Ace match. It is over for OZ.
If OZ 3-1 SKT, the chance for OZ to overcome SKT in PL ranking is 1%.
If OZ 3-0 SKT, the chance is about 2% (may be 3%, lol).


Fantasy BeSt ZerO
whoseline
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada29 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 06:30:57
July 03 2010 20:27 GMT
#190
On July 04 2010 02:03 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 02:02 NuKedUFirst wrote:
I really hope OZ qualifies..

PL wont be as exciting without Jaedong .. Switch CJ with oz?
I didn't realize MBC gamehero had such a good record this PL season

Eh, it was largely influenced by that monstrous WL run...

Also damn, OZ still makes things interesting for the last two weeks.
Wonder what's going to happen.

Too lazy to do analysis right now yay.


which coincided with Hyung Jun's Becomes a Progamer program :D

U R Man All Kill Ceremony <3 ^_^
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 03 2010 20:30 GMT
#191
Come on Wemade, don't choke. I want to see Nada in the Proleague Playoffs. :[

flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 06:41:26
July 04 2010 05:54 GMT
#192
Woot tabulating results!

After today's games (ACE vs STX, FOX vs Stars):

1. KTR 36-16 (+46) SAM, MBC, HIT
2. STX 32-21 (+10) WJN, SKT
3. MBC 30-22 (+17) CJE, KTR, HWA
4. SKT 29-24 (+12) HWA, STX
5. CJE 29-24 ( +5) MBC, ACE
6. WEM 28-25 (+15) ACE, SAM
----------------------------
7. HWA 26-26 ( -1) SKT, HIT, MBC
8. WJN 26-27 (+12) STX, EST
9. SAM 26-27 (-13) KTR, WEM
10. HIT 22-30 (-17) EST, HWA, KTR
11. EST 22-31 (-11) HIT, WJN
12. ACE 10-43 (-81) WEM, CJE

First off: WHOO ACE!
Secondly: WHOO ACE!
Third: OZ still has a chance now, interesting, though FOX still has to lose the rest of its games and OZ has to win the last three.

Edit: Stars still has a chance; I can't believe I missed this. Analysis later! For now, OZ and FOX.

Let's see...
As awesome as a 5game winstreak for ACE would be, I'd still think FOX wins.
Even after that disastrous showing tonight against Stars.
FOX with a strong T lineup is good against ACE, since ACE isn't that good against T. Land RuBy v RorO or Shine though for some awesomeness.
And give YellOw the other! If FOX wins this, I still think it'd be close, though if ACE wants to win it has to 3-1 or 3-0 since I don't see any one of them defeating BaBy.

We shall see. Definitely calling the OP for this.

I don't know how FOX against KHAN would look. If January does the damn right thing and sends her dragons so as to not lose, it will be really close. I'm feeling FOX still though, because of team depth.

Their coach just has to use it -__-

OZ... has SKT, hite, and MBC.
OZ beats SKT right? That's the interesting part. SKT is still strong this round, and just from looking at lineup alone I can see how they lost to MBC. OZ against SKT I'm thinking standard OZ result: either OZ 3-2 or SKT 3-1. Given how HiyA's been playing, mostly, I think he could do well/beat against anybody on SKT right now except maybe fantasy... Jaedong's a given. 3-2 OZ more prevalent, in my opinion. Against hite, well, OZ doesn't lose to hite. Here's to a Jaedong v hite 19- or 20-game winstreak. OZ vs MBC is a tough call. Light can take Jaedong, but Jaedong beats anybody else. HiyA, once again, I don't know... Heh. I'd give OZ 55-45 over SKT, 80-20 over hite, and dead even 50-50 MBC. It's hard to guess without lineups.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
July 04 2010 06:11 GMT
#193
right now oz can only switch places with fox right?
Who let the dogs out?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 04 2010 06:19 GMT
#194
On July 04 2010 15:11 Dandy4 wrote:
right now oz can only switch places with fox right?

Well realistically, yes. A few more improbable ones:
SKT goes 0-3 0-3 in its last two matches, bringing its record to 29-26 (+6) with OZ going 3-0 (defeating SKT), and then winning both its games with a net differential gain of +5, bringing it to a record of 29-26 and a differential of +7.
Of course, that happening is very unlikely, that is to say, quite impossible.

If CJ loses both its matches and OZ wins all three of its with a differential difference between them changing by at least 6, such as CJ 1-3 1-3, OZ 3-2 3-2 3-2 then OZ can pass CJ. MBC is streaky and CJ has good vT players, so I see CJ winning against them, and it would be amazing for ACE to 3-1 CJ as they have been doing the last four teams, but I'm going to be realistic...

Of course, if either CJ, SKT, or FOX wins another game then there's no way for OZ to pass them. CJ and SKT will have too many wins (30) because OZ only has 3 games left and 26 wins, and FOX will have a differential advantage no matter how it goes (FOX 3-2 0-3 OZ 3-0 3-0 3-0 still leaves FOX at 29-26 (+13) and OZ at 29-26 (+8).
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 06:20:49
July 04 2010 06:20 GMT
#195
Nope, assuming CJ loses all their games and Oz wins all of their games, they'd both be at 29 wins. If that does happen, CJ almost assuredly will have a worse win differential, though if they only lose 2-3 twice out of their two remaining games then they'll be at +3, meaning Oz will have to get to +4 within their next 3 games, or an overall 5 more wins than losses

ef;b
Remember Violet.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 04 2010 06:22 GMT
#196
On July 04 2010 15:11 Dandy4 wrote:
right now oz can only switch places with fox right?


WeMade, SKT, and CJ all still have a chance to drop out of the playoffs.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
July 04 2010 06:24 GMT
#197
ACE 10 WINS **** YEAH :D
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1765 Posts
July 04 2010 06:28 GMT
#198
On July 04 2010 14:54 flamewheel wrote:
Woot tabulating results!


After today's games (WEM vs. WJN, ACE vs. STX:):

1. KTR 36-16 (+46) SAM, MBC, HIT
2. STX 32-21 (+10) WJN, SKT
3. MBC 30-22 (+17) CJE, KTR, HWA
4. SKT 29-24 (+12) HWA, STX
5. CJE 29-24 ( +5) MBC, ACE
6. WEM 28-25 (+15) ACE, SAM
----------------------------
7. HWA 26-26 ( -1) SKT, HIT, MBC
8. WJN 26-27 (+12) STX, EST
9. SAM 26-27 (-13) KTR, WEM
10. HIT 22-30 (-17) EST, HWA, KTR
11. EST 22-31 (-11) HIT, WJN
12. ACE 10-43 (-81) WEM, CJE


Just fixing a few bits from flamewheel's post. ^^ Go JD Oz!
Leee Jaee Doong
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
July 04 2010 06:29 GMT
#199
On July 04 2010 15:22 nextstep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 15:11 Dandy4 wrote:
right now oz can only switch places with fox right?


WeMade, SKT, and CJ all still have a chance to drop out of the playoffs.


No chance of CJ dropping out, they are like "HIYA! take that! and one of those! BAM! POW!"
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
July 04 2010 06:31 GMT
#200
Thanks for the awesome explanation, keeping the hope alive for one more week.
Who let the dogs out?
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