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United States47024 Posts
On June 29 2010 14:57 Divine[aX] wrote:
Stork lost to a SKT Zerg? Bisu lost to Juni in April..
Except a game played 2 weeks ago is far more representative of current skill than a game played 2 months ago.
On June 29 2010 14:57 Divine[aX] wrote:
Just because Bisu has a better overall record than Stork/JangBi, doesn't mean much compared to the way he's been playing. His last win against a high class player was in April against Leta and if I remember correctly, he pulled some 2 gate.
During his latest "winning streak", he's beaten Mind, Hyvaa and RorO in an ace match. Compared to who Stork has been playing all this time (Sea, really and Midas comes to mind), that's not much to be proud of. Bisu may have a better overall record but you can't deny his sloppy play as of late.
His individual league games in the past month were very solid Starcraft. They're not top-class players, but if you watched the games, he played well, and in a Bo7 playoff format with as strong a lineup-maker as SKT's Coach Park, he only needs to play to that standard to take the win he needs for SKT. I'd rather have a Bisu that can win 100% against Mind/Hyvaa/Roro than a Stork that can take a game from Jaedong, but has a chance of dropping games to s2 (though I will concede that historically, it's Stork who's known more for his consistency and Bisu who's known for dropping games to random scrubs).
Bisu showed some spotty and downright bad play from the beginning of the year till the beginning of this month. But particularly since playoffs is still a few weeks away, I'm not convinced that's actually meaningful to any analysis of his ability.
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Khan's only chance is to win all games and hope fox loses all but at leas one of their games. Then it'll be
Khan 30-25 and Fox 29-26
Or if fox loses all 3 matches
Khan 30-25 and Fox 28-27
Or if fox loses all 3 matches and Khan drops one game
Khan 29-26 and Fox 28-27
Other option is if CJ loses all their remaining matches against MBC and ACE to make it.
Khan 30-25 and CJ 29-26
Or if CJ wins one in ace match and loses one in a 0-3 manner with Khan 3-0 everyone left to make it
Khan 30-25 (+4) and CJ 30-25 (+3)
Or if Khan drops one game but gets a game differential of about +8 while CJ drops both and get game differential of about -6, Khan can still make it on.
Khan 29-26 (0) and CJ 29-26 (-1)
Or there's the other option where Khan and CJ are equal in standing and equal in game differential, then I can see them going to a tie breaker.
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1. KTR 35-16 (+44) SKT, SAM, MBC, HIT
2. STX 32-20 (+12) ACE, WJN, SKT
3. SKT 29-22 (+16) MBC, KTR, HWA, STX
4. MBC 29-22 (+15) SKT, CJE, KTR, HWA
5. CJE 29-24 ( +5) MBC, ACE
6. WEM 28-24 (+17) WJN, ACE, SAM
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7. SAM 26-25 ( -8) HIT, HWA, KTR, WEM
8. HWA 25-26 ( -4) SAM, SKT, HIT, MBC
9. WJN 25-27 (+10) WEM, STX, EST
10. EST 22-31 (-11) HIT, WJN
11. HIT 21-30 (-19) SAM, EST, HWA, KTR
12. ACE 9-43 (-83) STX, WEM, CJE
Games today: MBC vs SKT, SAM vs HIT
1 and 2 looks set.
3, 4, 5, 6 might change places.
7 has slim chance of getting in.
8, 9 almost impossible.
Ace with 10 wins? Tough teams left but who knows, its Ace! Anything is possible.
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dont get why skt fans keep discussin in this thread anyway...
go khan we believe!
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On June 30 2010 04:42 MuffinDude wrote:
Khan's only chance is to win all games and hope fox loses all but at leas one of their games. Then it'll be
Khan 30-25 and Fox 29-26
Or if fox loses all 3 matches
Khan 30-25 and Fox 28-27
Or if fox loses all 3 matches and Khan drops one game
Khan 29-26 and Fox 28-27
Other option is if CJ loses all their remaining matches against MBC and ACE to make it.
Khan 30-25 and CJ 29-26
Or if CJ wins one in ace match and loses one in a 0-3 manner with Khan 3-0 everyone left to make it
Khan 30-25 (+4) and CJ 30-25 (+3)
Or if Khan drops one game but gets a game differential of about +8 while CJ drops both and get game differential of about -6, Khan can still make it on.
Khan 29-26 (0) and CJ 29-26 (-1)
Or there's the other option where Khan and CJ are equal in standing and equal in game differential, then I can see them going to a tie breaker.
Also possible if MBC or SKT lose every match and Khan wins every match. But well maybe that wont happen...
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SKT could still nab 2nd if they win all their games and stx loses to stars, or if stx loses to stars AND ace and skt loses to one of the other three remaining.
so basically SKT FIGHTING
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On June 30 2010 04:42 MuffinDude wrote:
Khan's only chance is to win all games and hope fox loses all but at leas one of their games. Then it'll be
Khan 30-25 and Fox 29-26
Or if fox loses all 3 matches
Khan 30-25 and Fox 28-27
Or if fox loses all 3 matches and Khan drops one game
Khan 29-26 and Fox 28-27
Other option is if CJ loses all their remaining matches against MBC and ACE to make it.
Khan 30-25 and CJ 29-26
Or if CJ wins one in ace match and loses one in a 0-3 manner with Khan 3-0 everyone left to make it
Khan 30-25 (+4) and CJ 30-25 (+3)
Or if Khan drops one game but gets a game differential of about +8 while CJ drops both and get game differential of about -6, Khan can still make it on.
Khan 29-26 (0) and CJ 29-26 (-1)
Or there's the other option where Khan and CJ are equal in standing and equal in game differential, then I can see them going to a tie breaker.
Just what I wanted, thanks.
Go Khan! I believe!
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I really want Stars to make it
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On June 27 2010 17:37 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2010 15:44 Lightwip wrote:On June 27 2010 15:16 matjlav wrote:On June 27 2010 15:07 Eiserne wrote:On June 27 2010 12:14 matjlav wrote:
I still believe in MBC for #2!
Of course, if they're #3, that will just be more games that I get to see them play ^^ MBC is now no. 4... ffffuuuuu- oh well, i still believe. kind of. mbc vs skt will be pretty important. SKT is just about exactly the same thing Khan is, except they have better protoss, and a terran that doesn't suck. What do you expect to happen? Plus it also doesn't hurt that both teams are completely on fire as of late. KHAN's trio of Jangbi/Great/Stork and T1's Best/Fantasy/Zergs have been absolutely dominant as of late. MBC on the other hand looks ehh. Sea isn't looking all that great, and Light's play has severely dipped since WL.
On June 27 2010 15:44 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2010 15:16 matjlav wrote:On June 27 2010 15:07 Eiserne wrote:On June 27 2010 12:14 matjlav wrote:
I still believe in MBC for #2!
Of course, if they're #3, that will just be more games that I get to see them play ^^ MBC is now no. 4... ffffuuuuu- oh well, i still believe. kind of. mbc vs skt will be pretty important. SKT is just about exactly the same thing Khan is, except they have better protoss, and a terran that doesn't suck. What do you expect to happen?
+ Show Spoiler [Proleague spoilers] +Suck it, haters. suck it.
To be fair, it was mostly a matter of BO wins, but let me bask in my irrational fanboyism.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
I'm not sure if this is entirely up to date, but at the end of Khan/Hite (which ended after SKT/MBC), the standings were shown on MBC as follows:
+ Show Spoiler +KT 35-16 +44
STX 32-20 +13
MBC 30-22 +17
SKT 29-23 +14
CJ 29-24 +5
FOX 28-24 +17
Khan 26-26 -10
OZ 25-26 -4
Stars 25-27 +10
Hite 22-30 -17
eSTRO 22-31 -11
ACE 9-43 -83
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Today showed us again everyone can lose to anyone lol
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Dang, instead of CJ in danger of losing their spot its now WeMade in danger. Oh well.
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On June 30 2010 15:49 XThunderyX wrote:
Dang, instead of CJ in danger of losing their spot its now WeMade in danger. Oh well.
Still, they would have to go 0-3 and Khan 3-0 or Oz 4-0. Not really likely
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Actually, CJ only has 2 more matches.
And I think CJ games differential is +6 (125-119).
That means Khan can't pass them anymore, even if CJ goes 0-2 (-6) and Khan goes 3-0 (+9).
They would be like this:
CJ 29-26 0
Khan 29-26 -1
EDIT: Nevermind, I just checked Fomos and CJ is 29-24 +5.
There's something wrong with my sheet.
But still, they would be in a complete draw then, 29-26 -1, but CJ has won more games and I guess that would put them ahead. Right?
And then I just read it right and realize you were talking about FOX...
LOL... fail!
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yea, as soon as WeMade wins a match, KHAN is officially out.
don't expect anything concerning CJ. CJ would need to lose 0-3 each series, and KHAN win 3-0 each series to tie point differential, in which case who knows how the tiebreaker is decided.
but man, can you imagine if WeMade drops their next two games, KHAN wins their next two, and the final spot in the playoffs rests on a game between KHAN and WeMade... that would be quite the storyline.
go KHAN!
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goodbye KHAN
teams to root for:
for now, CJ + WeMade to eliminate OZ from qualifying.
a win from CJ and WeMade eliminates OZ, and any loss from OZ eliminates them too.
then in playoffs, STX, MBC, SKT... still haven't decided yet.
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come on oz
hold it together
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Goodbye KHAN.
OZ, can you make things still interesting?
Probably not, but I wonder...
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After today's games (SAM vs HWA, SKT vs KTR):
1. KTR 36-16 (+46) SAM, MBC, HIT
2. STX 32-20 (+12) ACE, WJN, SKT
3. MBC 30-22 (+17) CJE, KTR, HWA
4. SKT 29-24 (+12) HWA, STX
5. CJE 29-24 ( +5) MBC, ACE
6. WEM 28-24 (+17) WJN, ACE, SAM
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7. HWA 26-26 ( -1) SKT, HIT, MBC
8. SAM 26-27 (-13) KTR, WEM
9. WJN 25-27 (+10) WEM, STX, EST
10. HIT 22-30 (-17) EST, HWA, KTR
11. EST 22-31 (-11) HIT, WJN
12. ACE 9-43 (-83) STX, WEM, CJE
https://www.e-sports.or.kr/static/Eng/proleague.kea?m_code=static_11
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Wow, SKT's playoff spot isn't secure. OZ now needs either SKT, CJ, or WeMade to fail.
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EPT
