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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 19:43:42
June 29 2010 19:41 GMT
#161
On June 29 2010 14:57 Divine[aX] wrote:
Stork lost to a SKT Zerg? Bisu lost to Juni in April..

Except a game played 2 weeks ago is far more representative of current skill than a game played 2 months ago.

On June 29 2010 14:57 Divine[aX] wrote:
Just because Bisu has a better overall record than Stork/JangBi, doesn't mean much compared to the way he's been playing. His last win against a high class player was in April against Leta and if I remember correctly, he pulled some 2 gate.

During his latest "winning streak", he's beaten Mind, Hyvaa and RorO in an ace match. Compared to who Stork has been playing all this time (Sea, really and Midas comes to mind), that's not much to be proud of. Bisu may have a better overall record but you can't deny his sloppy play as of late.

His individual league games in the past month were very solid Starcraft. They're not top-class players, but if you watched the games, he played well, and in a Bo7 playoff format with as strong a lineup-maker as SKT's Coach Park, he only needs to play to that standard to take the win he needs for SKT. I'd rather have a Bisu that can win 100% against Mind/Hyvaa/Roro than a Stork that can take a game from Jaedong, but has a chance of dropping games to s2 (though I will concede that historically, it's Stork who's known more for his consistency and Bisu who's known for dropping games to random scrubs).

Bisu showed some spotty and downright bad play from the beginning of the year till the beginning of this month. But particularly since playoffs is still a few weeks away, I'm not convinced that's actually meaningful to any analysis of his ability.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 19:56:00
June 29 2010 19:42 GMT
#162
Khan's only chance is to win all games and hope fox loses all but at leas one of their games. Then it'll be

Khan 30-25 and Fox 29-26

Or if fox loses all 3 matches

Khan 30-25 and Fox 28-27

Or if fox loses all 3 matches and Khan drops one game

Khan 29-26 and Fox 28-27

Other option is if CJ loses all their remaining matches against MBC and ACE to make it.

Khan 30-25 and CJ 29-26

Or if CJ wins one in ace match and loses one in a 0-3 manner with Khan 3-0 everyone left to make it

Khan 30-25 (+4) and CJ 30-25 (+3)

Or if Khan drops one game but gets a game differential of about +8 while CJ drops both and get game differential of about -6, Khan can still make it on.

Khan 29-26 (0) and CJ 29-26 (-1)

Or there's the other option where Khan and CJ are equal in standing and equal in game differential, then I can see them going to a tie breaker.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
June 29 2010 20:55 GMT
#163
1.  KTR 35-16 (+44) SKT, SAM, MBC, HIT
2. STX 32-20 (+12) ACE, WJN, SKT
3. SKT 29-22 (+16) MBC, KTR, HWA, STX
4. MBC 29-22 (+15) SKT, CJE, KTR, HWA
5. CJE 29-24 ( +5) MBC, ACE
6. WEM 28-24 (+17) WJN, ACE, SAM
----------------------------
7. SAM 26-25 ( -8) HIT, HWA, KTR, WEM
8. HWA 25-26 ( -4) SAM, SKT, HIT, MBC
9. WJN 25-27 (+10) WEM, STX, EST
10. EST 22-31 (-11) HIT, WJN
11. HIT 21-30 (-19) SAM, EST, HWA, KTR
12. ACE 9-43 (-83) STX, WEM, CJE

Games today: MBC vs SKT, SAM vs HIT


1 and 2 looks set.
3, 4, 5, 6 might change places.
7 has slim chance of getting in.
8, 9 almost impossible.
Ace with 10 wins? Tough teams left but who knows, its Ace! Anything is possible.
Leee Jaee Doong
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
June 29 2010 21:02 GMT
#164
dont get why skt fans keep discussin in this thread anyway...
go khan we believe!
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
June 29 2010 21:03 GMT
#165
On June 30 2010 04:42 MuffinDude wrote:
Khan's only chance is to win all games and hope fox loses all but at leas one of their games. Then it'll be

Khan 30-25 and Fox 29-26

Or if fox loses all 3 matches

Khan 30-25 and Fox 28-27

Or if fox loses all 3 matches and Khan drops one game

Khan 29-26 and Fox 28-27

Other option is if CJ loses all their remaining matches against MBC and ACE to make it.

Khan 30-25 and CJ 29-26

Or if CJ wins one in ace match and loses one in a 0-3 manner with Khan 3-0 everyone left to make it

Khan 30-25 (+4) and CJ 30-25 (+3)

Or if Khan drops one game but gets a game differential of about +8 while CJ drops both and get game differential of about -6, Khan can still make it on.

Khan 29-26 (0) and CJ 29-26 (-1)

Or there's the other option where Khan and CJ are equal in standing and equal in game differential, then I can see them going to a tie breaker.

Also possible if MBC or SKT lose every match and Khan wins every match. But well maybe that wont happen...
If you have to ask, you don't know.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
June 30 2010 02:20 GMT
#166
SKT could still nab 2nd if they win all their games and stx loses to stars, or if stx loses to stars AND ace and skt loses to one of the other three remaining.

so basically SKT FIGHTING
boomer hands
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
June 30 2010 02:23 GMT
#167
On June 30 2010 04:42 MuffinDude wrote:
Khan's only chance is to win all games and hope fox loses all but at leas one of their games. Then it'll be

Khan 30-25 and Fox 29-26

Or if fox loses all 3 matches

Khan 30-25 and Fox 28-27

Or if fox loses all 3 matches and Khan drops one game

Khan 29-26 and Fox 28-27

Other option is if CJ loses all their remaining matches against MBC and ACE to make it.

Khan 30-25 and CJ 29-26

Or if CJ wins one in ace match and loses one in a 0-3 manner with Khan 3-0 everyone left to make it

Khan 30-25 (+4) and CJ 30-25 (+3)

Or if Khan drops one game but gets a game differential of about +8 while CJ drops both and get game differential of about -6, Khan can still make it on.

Khan 29-26 (0) and CJ 29-26 (-1)

Or there's the other option where Khan and CJ are equal in standing and equal in game differential, then I can see them going to a tie breaker.


Just what I wanted, thanks.

Go Khan! I believe!
Stuck.
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
June 30 2010 03:24 GMT
#168
I really want Stars to make it
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 05:26:48
June 30 2010 05:24 GMT
#169
On June 27 2010 17:37 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 15:44 Lightwip wrote:
On June 27 2010 15:16 matjlav wrote:
On June 27 2010 15:07 Eiserne wrote:
On June 27 2010 12:14 matjlav wrote:
I still believe in MBC for #2!

Of course, if they're #3, that will just be more games that I get to see them play ^^

MBC is now no. 4...


ffffuuuuu-

oh well, i still believe. kind of. mbc vs skt will be pretty important.

SKT is just about exactly the same thing Khan is, except they have better protoss, and a terran that doesn't suck. What do you expect to happen?

Plus it also doesn't hurt that both teams are completely on fire as of late. KHAN's trio of Jangbi/Great/Stork and T1's Best/Fantasy/Zergs have been absolutely dominant as of late. MBC on the other hand looks ehh. Sea isn't looking all that great, and Light's play has severely dipped since WL.


On June 27 2010 15:44 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 15:16 matjlav wrote:
On June 27 2010 15:07 Eiserne wrote:
On June 27 2010 12:14 matjlav wrote:
I still believe in MBC for #2!

Of course, if they're #3, that will just be more games that I get to see them play ^^

MBC is now no. 4...


ffffuuuuu-

oh well, i still believe. kind of. mbc vs skt will be pretty important.

SKT is just about exactly the same thing Khan is, except they have better protoss, and a terran that doesn't suck. What do you expect to happen?


+ Show Spoiler [Proleague spoilers] +
Suck it, haters. suck it.

To be fair, it was mostly a matter of BO wins, but let me bask in my irrational fanboyism.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 30 2010 06:06 GMT
#170
I'm not sure if this is entirely up to date, but at the end of Khan/Hite (which ended after SKT/MBC), the standings were shown on MBC as follows:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT 35-16 +44
STX 32-20 +13
MBC 30-22 +17
SKT 29-23 +14
CJ 29-24 +5
FOX 28-24 +17
Khan 26-26 -10
OZ 25-26 -4
Stars 25-27 +10
Hite 22-30 -17
eSTRO 22-31 -11
ACE 9-43 -83
God Bless
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 30 2010 06:29 GMT
#171
Today showed us again everyone can lose to anyone lol
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
XThunderyX
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States367 Posts
June 30 2010 06:49 GMT
#172
Dang, instead of CJ in danger of losing their spot its now WeMade in danger. Oh well.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
June 30 2010 07:42 GMT
#173
On June 30 2010 15:49 XThunderyX wrote:
Dang, instead of CJ in danger of losing their spot its now WeMade in danger. Oh well.

Still, they would have to go 0-3 and Khan 3-0 or Oz 4-0. Not really likely
mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 00:34:50
July 01 2010 00:25 GMT
#174
Actually, CJ only has 2 more matches.
And I think CJ games differential is +6 (125-119).
That means Khan can't pass them anymore, even if CJ goes 0-2 (-6) and Khan goes 3-0 (+9).
They would be like this:
CJ 29-26 0
Khan 29-26 -1

EDIT: Nevermind, I just checked Fomos and CJ is 29-24 +5.
There's something wrong with my sheet.
But still, they would be in a complete draw then, 29-26 -1, but CJ has won more games and I guess that would put them ahead. Right?

And then I just read it right and realize you were talking about FOX...
LOL... fail!
(–_–)
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 05:23:06
July 01 2010 02:09 GMT
#175
yea, as soon as WeMade wins a match, KHAN is officially out.

don't expect anything concerning CJ. CJ would need to lose 0-3 each series, and KHAN win 3-0 each series to tie point differential, in which case who knows how the tiebreaker is decided.

but man, can you imagine if WeMade drops their next two games, KHAN wins their next two, and the final spot in the playoffs rests on a game between KHAN and WeMade... that would be quite the storyline.

go KHAN!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 03 2010 05:21 GMT
#176
goodbye KHAN

teams to root for:

for now, CJ + WeMade to eliminate OZ from qualifying.
a win from CJ and WeMade eliminates OZ, and any loss from OZ eliminates them too.

then in playoffs, STX, MBC, SKT... still haven't decided yet.
go KHAN! TBLS <3
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
July 03 2010 05:24 GMT
#177
come on oz
hold it together
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 03 2010 05:45 GMT
#178
Goodbye KHAN.
OZ, can you make things still interesting?
Probably not, but I wonder...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
July 03 2010 05:49 GMT
#179

After today's games (SAM vs HWA, SKT vs KTR):

1. KTR 36-16 (+46) SAM, MBC, HIT
2. STX 32-20 (+12) ACE, WJN, SKT
3. MBC 30-22 (+17) CJE, KTR, HWA
4. SKT 29-24 (+12) HWA, STX
5. CJE 29-24 ( +5) MBC, ACE
6. WEM 28-24 (+17) WJN, ACE, SAM
----------------------------
7. HWA 26-26 ( -1) SKT, HIT, MBC
8. SAM 26-27 (-13) KTR, WEM
9. WJN 25-27 (+10) WEM, STX, EST
10. HIT 22-30 (-17) EST, HWA, KTR
11. EST 22-31 (-11) HIT, WJN
12. ACE 9-43 (-83) STX, WEM, CJE


https://www.e-sports.or.kr/static/Eng/proleague.kea?m_code=static_11
Leee Jaee Doong
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 03 2010 05:53 GMT
#180
Wow, SKT's playoff spot isn't secure. OZ now needs either SKT, CJ, or WeMade to fail.
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