EPT[PL] The Race to Qualify - Page 7
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ShadeR
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Musoeun
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On June 27 2010 15:44 Lightwip wrote: SKT is just about exactly the same thing Khan is, except they have better protoss, and a terran that doesn't suck. What do you expect to happen? Now that statement is entirely your opinion. SKT has better terran, but khan has better zerg, and better protoss? I don't know about that. Best, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork weren't winning many games until this round started. Anyway, go fox. On June 28 2010 22:48 SuperArc wrote: Oz and Khan still play each other so no, Oz' chances are not dead Nope, even if Oz beats Khan, this means that assuming Oz wins rest of their games, CJ can lose one more game than they were supposed to to get into playoffs. | ||
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MuffinDude
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On June 29 2010 00:23 MuffinDude wrote: Now that statement is entirely your opinion. SKT has better terran, but khan has better zerg, and better protoss? I don't know about that. Best, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork weren't winning many games until this round started. Jangbi I'd say is overall worse than Best, and Stork isn't doing as well as Bisu right now. That's debatable I suppose, but I think it's in favor of SKT. Great is better than Hyuk, but s2 is better than Juni. Zerg is about equal. Terran of course doesn't even compare. SKT wins that. Also SKT has better results recently, so they probably will do better. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 29 2010 00:23 MuffinDude wrote: Now that statement is entirely your opinion. SKT has better terran, but khan has better zerg, and better protoss? I don't know about that. Best, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork weren't winning many games until this round started. By "Khan has better zerg" you mean they have one Zerg who is decent, and others who are fairly poor, while SKT has a lineup of Zergs that are all equally mediocre? I don't think you can really say Khan Terrans at this stage are on par with SKT Zergs. SKT Zergs have been bringing in some wins, while, if Khan Terrans had the chance to play, I doubt you could expect as much from them (certainly, I don't think Khan Terrans would be able to pull off a 3-0). Not to mention that I think Fantasy has a way better chance against most A and S-class progamers than Great does. | ||
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jalstar
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:19 jalstar wrote: OZ isn't entirely out yet. If they can win their 4 remaining games they can probably catch a 1-2 CJ on set differential, and they will pass an 0-3 CJ in record. Oh then GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FOX!!! beat CJ so Jaedong can make it to the play-off + Show Spoiler + ... and get cheesed by fantasy again ... | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
But really, teams are entertaining. I wouldn't mind CJ or KHAN, really. Just as long as there are great games. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:19 jalstar wrote: OZ isn't entirely out yet. If they can win their 4 remaining games they can probably catch a 1-2 CJ on set differential, and they will pass an 0-3 CJ in record. Thanks for this! I am so nervous now and actually really angry since OZ lost to ACE 3 times... (correct me if I'm wrong) | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On June 29 2010 02:19 jalstar wrote: OZ isn't entirely out yet. If they can win their 4 remaining games they can probably catch a 1-2 CJ on set differential, and they will pass an 0-3 CJ in record. Yep, totally true, right now the point differential is, so all Oz has to do is not go 3-2 every single game... The point differential will be close. Khan has a very legitamite shot too. [edit] Keep in mind, even if Oz makes it, it's a Bo7... You guys wanna see Hiya, Killer, Lomo, BackHo, Perfectman play? It's not tasting like exciting matches besides JD. | ||
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Dandy4
United States493 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On June 29 2010 03:48 Dandy4 wrote: to be honest, Oz just lost to the lowest ranking team, I don't think they deserve to be in the playoffs. Does KT not deserve to be in the playoffs either? Or MBC? Well okay Hite isn't going anyway. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Pity, Stars had such a good run too for a while. But let's be honest, I personally think Khan and CJ are capable of bringing more to the table than Stars, especially CJ with its deep lineup. | ||
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Z3kk
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On June 29 2010 04:37 Z3kk wrote: I'm a die-hard Khan fan, so I'd really like them to make the playoffs. CJ seems to have a stronger team at the moment, but if Khan's strong players can get back on track and its weak players can improve, then I think they have not such a long shot at all of making the playoffs. Khan is better than CJ atm but CJs lead makes it hard to qualify... | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On June 29 2010 03:28 Skillz_Man wrote: Yep, totally true, right now the point differential is, so all Oz has to do is not go 3-2 every single game... The point differential will be close. Khan has a very legitamite shot too. [edit] Keep in mind, even if Oz makes it, it's a Bo7... You guys wanna see Hiya, Killer, Lomo, BackHo, Perfectman play? It's not tasting like exciting matches besides JD. Jaedong's presence makes up for everything else imo. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On June 29 2010 01:38 Lightwip wrote: Jangbi I'd say is overall worse than Best, and Stork isn't doing as well as Bisu right now. That's debatable I suppose, but I think it's in favor of SKT. Great is better than Hyuk, but s2 is better than Juni. Zerg is about equal. Terran of course doesn't even compare. SKT wins that. Also SKT has better results recently, so they probably will do better. Best better than jangbi is complete bull, jangbi and best both has been sucking for the longest time, only recently has best started winning games. At least jangbi was winning games every so often while best was out of the picture for a while. Not to mention that jangbi is relatively solid in all three match up while best can't pvz for beans. And if you want to say that jangbi's pvt has fallen a lot since his peak, then go watch best's pvp, its as bad as jangbi's pvt now. And bisu only played one or two games in pl after he made his "comeback" unlike stork whose been playing the whole entire time. You can't just randomly conclude bisu is better than stork after watching one or two games. And great is ace match quality while skt zergs are far from it. Maybe SKT is a better team overall by a bit, but they do not have a better protoss. That is entirely your opinion. If I have to say something, I say they're about equal and I'll have to observe them few more games before I come to any conclusion. And skt has better record than khan recently? They're both 6-1 in r5, wtf r u smoking? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On June 29 2010 13:58 MuffinDude wrote: Best better than jangbi is complete bull, jangbi and best both has been sucking for the longest time, only recently has best started winning games. At least jangbi was winning games every so often while best was out of the picture for a while. And bisu only played one or two games in pl after he made his "comeback" unlike stork whose been playing the whole entire time. You can't just randomly conclude bisu is better than stork after watching one or two games. And great is ace match quality while skt zergs are far from it. And skt has better record than khan recently? They're both 6-1 in r5, wtf r u smoking? Flaming makes you cool. Best is overall better than Jangbi, if you see by their records, because Best has better PvT and PvP, and Jangbi's PvZ isn't that much better. And I don't think you could argue that Bisu is worse than stork if they both are at their top, except in PvT. Stork lost to some SKT Zerg recently as well, who are apparently garbage. And Hyuk is fairly good, he's won aces(one vs STX in R4 against Clam), even though he's not quite as good as great, but he wins consistently nowadays. Also SKT has SoO, who is about as good as Juni IMO(he beat stork). Although I suppose you could argue that SoO really isn't that much of an advantage because Khan also has Brave. The fact that SKT also has a good terran in their lineup is just about all that's necessary to show that SKT is the better team right now. Hmm, Khan is actually doing better than I thought they were though. It might be good if they make the playoffs instead of CJ. I like both teams, I really can't say which one I'd hope to make it. | ||
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