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Korean Air OSL Season 2 - Ro36 Groups/Hype Thread

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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 05:26:19
June 14 2010 05:08 GMT
#1
Ro16 seeds:
(T)Flash, (Z)EffOrt, (P)Kal, (P)Pure

Group A
(Z)great vs (P)BeSt
Winner vs (T)Sea

Group B
(P)free vs (T)Canata
Winner vs (Z)Calm

Group C
(P)JangBi vs (T)RuBy
Winner vs (Z)Hyuk

Group D
(T)Light vs (P)Brave
Winner vs (T)Fantasy

Group E
(T)Leta vs (P)Pusan
Winner vs (Z)Kwanro

Group F
(P)Bisu vs (T)Mind
Winner vs (Z)hyvaa

Group G
(T)Really vs (P)Snow
Winner vs (Z)ZerO

Group H
(P)Shuttle vs (Z)Action
Winner vs (T)fOrGG

Group I
(T)HiyA vs (P)Reach
Winner vs (Z)Shine

Group J
(P)Stats vs (Z)Hydra
Winner vs (T)BaBy

Group K
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Killer
Winner vs (P)Stork

Group L
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Ssak
Winner vs (P)Movie

Who will win the 2nd Korean Air OSL?
+ Show Spoiler [Poll] +
Poll: Who will win?

Flash (103)
 
32%

Jaedong (103)
 
32%

Someone else (38)
 
12%

Baby (22)
 
7%

Fantasy (20)
 
6%

Stork (18)
 
6%

EffOrt (7)
 
2%

Sea (3)
 
1%

free (3)
 
1%

Kwanro (3)
 
1%

Kal (3)
 
1%

Leta (2)
 
1%

325 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): EffOrt
(Vote): Fantasy
(Vote): Baby
(Vote): Sea
(Vote): free
(Vote): Leta
(Vote): Kwanro
(Vote): Stork
(Vote): Kal
(Vote): Someone else



Most likely royal roader? (a royal roader is a player who's never made it out of prelims before winning the OSL)
+ Show Spoiler [Poll] +
Poll: Most likely Royal Roader?

Snow (89)
 
44%

free (52)
 
26%

Action (25)
 
12%

great (17)
 
8%

Stats (13)
 
6%

Ssak (6)
 
3%

Brave (1)
 
0%

203 total votes

Your vote: Most likely Royal Roader?

(Vote): great
(Vote): free
(Vote): Brave
(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Action
(Vote): Stats
(Vote): Ssak



Most overhyped player?
+ Show Spoiler [Poll] +
Poll: Which new player is most overhyped?

Snow (100)
 
60%

Stats (29)
 
17%

Action (21)
 
13%

Shuttle (14)
 
8%

Ssak (formerly known as Mong) (2)
 
1%

Brave (1)
 
1%

Hydra (1)
 
1%

168 total votes

Your vote: Which new player is most overhyped?

(Vote): Brave
(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shuttle
(Vote): Action
(Vote): Stats
(Vote): Hydra
(Vote): Ssak (formerly known as Mong)



Surprise player of the OSL?
+ Show Spoiler [Poll] +
Poll: What underdog will advance furthest?

Hiya (45)
 
25%

great (41)
 
22%

Killer (23)
 
13%

Ruby (22)
 
12%

Mind (15)
 
8%

Ssak (14)
 
8%

Canata (9)
 
5%

Pusan (8)
 
4%

Brave (6)
 
3%

183 total votes

Your vote: What underdog will advance furthest?

(Vote): great
(Vote): Canata
(Vote): Ruby
(Vote): Brave
(Vote): Pusan
(Vote): Mind
(Vote): Hiya
(Vote): Killer
(Vote): Ssak

danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 05:12:40
June 14 2010 05:11 GMT
#2
aw
poor Movie not even going to see ro16 this time

edit: there is a toss in every group. wonder how long that will last.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2010 05:17 GMT
#3
my predictions are:

Sea
free
Hyuk
Light
Kwanro (yuck)
Bisu
Snow but wow is this ever a tough group
Shuttle if he gets past Action, fOrGG otherwise
probably HiyA, obv cheering for Reach
Baby
skyhigh
Jaedong!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 14 2010 05:17 GMT
#4
Bisu vs Mind.

Fuck you Mind. Ruined a possibly great finals for us in GOM TV Season 3.
God Bless
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
June 14 2010 05:18 GMT
#5
Ssak? Movie? lol Dong has his work cut out for him.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 14 2010 05:19 GMT
#6
Group G, oh my god.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
June 14 2010 05:19 GMT
#7
i don't get it?

why there is no option for Pure?
come on, boy got 3/4 place last season and doesn't even get mentioned in the poll?
Pure fan
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
June 14 2010 05:20 GMT
#8
Pure won't make it out of the ro16.
connoisseur
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 14 2010 05:20 GMT
#9
On June 14 2010 14:19 motbob wrote:
Group G, oh my god.


As good as Really vs Snow is going to be, both of them suck vs Zerg, and they have to play ZerO.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
June 14 2010 05:24 GMT
#10
Gotta cheer for Reach to make it deep \o/
TranslatorBaa!
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
June 14 2010 05:26 GMT
#11
Stork, if you aren't going to win another OSL, at least get another silver. : )
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 05:27:46
June 14 2010 05:27 GMT
#12
hyuk might have a chance! ^_^
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 05:40:03
June 14 2010 05:39 GMT
#13
Group A: (T)Sea
Group B: (Z)Calm
Group C: (P)JangBi
Group D: (T)Light
Group E: (T)Leta
Group F: (P)Bisu
Group G: (Z)ZerO
Group H: (Z)Action
Group I: (P)Reach
Group J: (T)BaBy
Group K: (P)Stork
Group L: (Z)Jaedong

Group G is the toughest imo.

Good to see a good balance in representation for all three races, although I don't feel any of the toss players are real threats to the obvious favorites (Z)Jaedong/(T)Flash

And wtf 3 ppl from OZ qualified!!
Jaedong :D
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
June 14 2010 05:39 GMT
#14
gotta say the lineup is quite sweet this season
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 14 2010 05:41 GMT
#15
On June 14 2010 14:39 Neverhood wrote:
Good to see a good balance in representation for all three races, although I don't feel any of the toss players are real threats to the obvious favorites (Z)Jaedong/(T)Flash


If there's going to be an OSL before SC2 that has neither Flash nor Jaedong in the finals, this is it. Pretty much every single good player managed to make it to the Round of 36.
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
June 14 2010 05:43 GMT
#16
Go go gadget REACH. Moar mantoss.
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 14 2010 05:53 GMT
#17
Snow is in one damned group
I hope this is the greatest OSL ever. so many big names and some new comers. Newcomers upsets, Big names dominate, CJ TAKE IT ALL
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 05:54:03
June 14 2010 05:53 GMT
#18
Predictions!


Group A
(Z)great vs (P)BeSt
(Z)great vs (T)Sea

Group B
(P)free vs (T)Canata
(P)free vs (Z)Calm

Group C
(P)JangBi vs (T)RuBy
(P)JangBi vs (Z)Hyuk

Group D
(T)Light vs (P)Brave
(P)Brave vs (T)Fantasy

Group E
(T)Leta vs (P)Pusan
(T)Leta vs (Z)Kwanro

Group F
(P)Bisu vs (T)Mind
(P)Bisu vs (Z)hyvaa

Group G
(T)Really vs (P)Snow
(P)Snow vs (Z)ZerO

Group H
(P)Shuttle vs (Z)Action
(Z)Action vs (T)fOrGG

Group I
(T)HiyA vs (P)Reach
(T)HiyA vs (Z)Shine

Group J
(P)Stats vs (Z)Hydra
(Z)Hydra vs (T)BaBy

Group K
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Killer
(Z)Killer vs (P)Stork

Group L
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Ssak
(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Movie

Miscellaneous predictions:
(T)BaBy will win the OSL.
(Z)great will make the ro4.
(P)Bisu won't make it past the group stage.
(T)Fantasy will make at least the ro8.
(Z)ZerO will 3-0 his group, only to lose 2-0 in the ro8 (again).

I drop suckas like Plinko
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 14 2010 05:58 GMT
#19
Hurry for only 1 group having (potential) mirror match!

Best
Calm
Hyuk
Fantasy
Kwanro
Bisu
Zero
Shuttle
Hiya
Baby
Stork
Jaedong
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
June 14 2010 06:07 GMT
#20
This round of 36 will be epic!

Reach hit a brick wall here. He is up against Hiya and Shine, two anti-Protoss specialists.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 06:10:36
June 14 2010 06:08 GMT
#21
Group A
(P)BeSt will 2-0 great with his mediocre PvZ and stomp Sea with his macro PvT


Group B
(P)free. HOW WOULD CLAM OR FAILNATA MAKE IT? LOLOLOL

Group C
(Z)Hyuk or (T)RuBy

Group D
(T)Fantasy because (T)Light is bad and (P)Brave isnt experienced enough. though he has (P)Stork has his mentor, he might upset. but will only take down the dim light

Group E
(Z)Kwanro because the Leta and CityToss chokes hard.

Group F
(Z)hyvaa. i have no faith in Bisu or Mind.

Group G
(P)Snow. Fanboyism will make it true

Group H
(P)Shuttle because hes most impressive.

Group I
(P)Reach. Mantoss incoming.

Group J
(Z)Hydra. Hmm? you doubt me? prepare to facepalm.

Group K
(P)Stork. hes slumping but i think he'll manage. nvm he recovered.

Group L
(P)Movie. FOR CJ. and i think he can take down the Dong
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 06:09:13
June 14 2010 06:08 GMT
#22
Pusan has a real shot in his group :3 (well more so than any other group)

Kinga funny that my two favorite players end up in the same group rofl
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 14 2010 06:14 GMT
#23
Movie was the last non-Stork player to beat Jaedong. I don't think he's pulling that off again though, seeing as its been a year and Jaedong's ZvP is invincible now :D
GANDHISAUCE
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
June 14 2010 06:16 GMT
#24
Group L is exciting. It's either Movie or Jaedong for OSL Ro16.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 14 2010 06:19 GMT
#25
On June 14 2010 15:08 Kenpachi wrote:
9 Protoss in the Ro16


I think that would be a record.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 14 2010 06:23 GMT
#26
On June 14 2010 15:19 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2010 15:08 Kenpachi wrote:
9 Protoss in the Ro16


I think that would be a record.

you traitor! betrayed CJ for T1
and yea it would but i believe!
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 14 2010 06:28 GMT
#27
On June 14 2010 15:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2010 15:19 jalstar wrote:
On June 14 2010 15:08 Kenpachi wrote:
9 Protoss in the Ro16


I think that would be a record.

you traitor! betrayed CJ for T1
and yea it would but i believe!


Supporting CJ was becoming pretty masochistic.

Also hyuk hyuk hyuk.
TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
June 14 2010 06:29 GMT
#28
Snow being voted most overhyped is absolute bullshit.
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
June 14 2010 06:31 GMT
#29
These are some awesome groups, about as balanced as I could realistically hope, and more importantly, most have a z/t/p in them. Lots a good players, it'll be fun.
esq>n
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
June 14 2010 06:32 GMT
#30
Wow every single group has 1P, 1T and 1Z, except for group D. Were the groups hand made or was it by some godlike random chance that this happened?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 14 2010 06:34 GMT
#31
On June 14 2010 15:32 jiabung wrote:
Wow every single group has 1P, 1T and 1Z, except for group D. Were the groups hand made or was it by some godlike random chance that this happened?

handmade. each race has been distributed as equally as possible for the Ro36 and Ro32 of the MSL.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
cemlions
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 06:53:10
June 14 2010 06:52 GMT
#32
I want a Kal vs Stork/Bisu Final. This also looks like a great Osl coming up.
I knew I wasn't a noob cause I just didn't feel good when I was noobing out
Evilmonkey.
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1628 Posts
June 14 2010 06:55 GMT
#33
Amazing race distribution for once, this should be fu.
WWBD- What would Boxer do?
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 14 2010 06:58 GMT
#34
Gonna be fantastic to watch! I can't wait! :D

"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11270 Posts
June 14 2010 07:00 GMT
#35
I don't remember the matchups being this great before, but it might just be nostalgia. Looking forward to it!
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 14 2010 07:01 GMT
#36
A: (T)Sea
B: (P)free
C: (Z)Hyuk
D: (T)Fantasy
E: (T)Leta
F: (P)Bisu
G: (Z)ZerO (hardest group)
H: (T)fOrGG
I: (T)HiyA (sorry (P)Reach )
J: (T)BaBy
K: (T)sKyHigh
L: (Z)Jaedong.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
June 14 2010 07:07 GMT
#37
Bisu's group looks very winnable, hoping he pull through.
mOojc
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia460 Posts
June 14 2010 07:10 GMT
#38
I can't wait till this OSL season begins. Some great groups. I really hope Bisu makes it out of his group... seriously. He has one of the easier groups to deal with. Otherwise hoping for Action and Snow to get through. GO!
KimchiFriedRice
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada237 Posts
June 14 2010 07:17 GMT
#39
Mantoss will prevail.
I will shove Kimchi up your ass and watch you writhe in pain.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32271 Posts
June 14 2010 07:20 GMT
#40
Come on Snow! you can do it!
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InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
June 14 2010 07:37 GMT
#41
Okay, I know it's early, but this OSL is looking hella sick!

Here are my bad predictions/hopes
+ Show Spoiler +

Group A
(Z)great vs (P)BeSt
(Z)great vs (T)Sea

Group B
(P)free vs (T)Canata
(P)free vs (Z)Calm

Group C
(P)JangBi vs (T)RuBy
(P)JangBi vs (Z)Hyuk

Group D
(T)Light vs (P)Brave
(T)Light vs (T)Fantasy

Group E
(T)Leta vs (P)Pusan
(T)Leta vs (Z)Kwanro

Group F
(P)Bisu vs (T)Mind
(T)Mind vs (Z)hyvaa

Group G
(T)Really vs (P)Snow
(P)Snow vs (Z)ZerO

Group H
(P)Shuttle vs (Z)Action
(Z)Action vs (T)fOrGG

Group I
(T)HiyA vs (P)Reach
(P)Reach vs (Z)Shine

Group J
(P)Stats vs (Z)Hydra
(Z)Hydra vs (T)BaBy

Group K
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Killer
(Z)Killer vs (P)Stork

Group L
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Ssak (LoL epic upset)
(T)Ssak vs (P)Movie

... Knowmsayin'?
Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
June 14 2010 08:09 GMT
#42
Woo this OSL is looking stacked!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 08:29:30
June 14 2010 08:29 GMT
#43
KIM DAE YEOB FOR ROYAL ROAD!

You heard it first here!
In the woods, there lurks..
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 14 2010 08:52 GMT
#44
FML

Hydra in the same group as Baby, Skyhigh in Stork's group and Movie in JAEDONG's group?!

Wtf, is this OGN's way to stop a third finalist of CJ?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 14 2010 16:30 GMT
#45
I just want to note that the groups have the smallest possible number of the same races in each group. This seems really unlikely to be the product of randomly generated groups to me.

Just a rough calculation: every group has about a 2/9 chance of having one of each race, and we can apply that probability to the 11 groups that have one of each race, so the chance of the groups falling this way are about (2/9)^11, or about 0.0000065%.

I'm calling shenanigans.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
June 14 2010 16:41 GMT
#46
On June 15 2010 01:30 motbob wrote:
I just want to note that the groups have the smallest possible number of the same races in each group. This seems really unlikely to be the product of randomly generated groups to me.

Just a rough calculation: every group has about a 2/9 chance of having one of each race, and we can apply that probability to the 11 groups that have one of each race, so the chance of the groups falling this way are about (2/9)^11, or about 0.0000065%.

I'm calling shenanigans.


They most likely randomized one player of each race into each group, so that the groups where still random while the race spread wasn't.
genericname92
Profile Joined October 2009
United States148 Posts
June 14 2010 16:53 GMT
#47
I'd vote leta, but he's gonna get 9-n pooled out of a starleague for the umpteenth time
pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
June 14 2010 16:54 GMT
#48
This is going to be a great OSL. Seriously, this lineup? Ssak is the only vaguely-unknown player of the entire Ro36.

Race distribution, skill distribution, all looking AWESOME.

Hoping for mantoss, anticipating LeeSsang.

Or hell, hoping for any damn protoss to win an OSL for once. Bisu if he can pull it together, but I'd rather see Stork get his second OSL title. But really, any toss will do. The last OSL win for a toss before Stork was Anytime in 2005.
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
June 14 2010 16:55 GMT
#49
are these games bo1?
aka Sowelulol
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
June 14 2010 16:56 GMT
#50
Bo3.
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
June 14 2010 17:02 GMT
#51
bisu or Stork vs JD or Flash will be epic final
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
June 14 2010 17:03 GMT
#52
Groups A, B, G look scary as hell
also there are enough protoss for one in every group :o
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 14 2010 17:12 GMT
#53
This is definitely Flash's OSL, again...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
June 14 2010 17:15 GMT
#54
(P)Bisu got a great group, which usually bodes ill for him. (T)Fantasy got a gift too, a terran and a protoss should make his group pretty simple. (T)Really got the worst possible draw, things couldn't have been worse.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 14 2010 17:39 GMT
#55
On June 15 2010 01:30 motbob wrote:
I just want to note that the groups have the smallest possible number of the same races in each group. This seems really unlikely to be the product of randomly generated groups to me.

Just a rough calculation: every group has about a 2/9 chance of having one of each race, and we can apply that probability to the 11 groups that have one of each race, so the chance of the groups falling this way are about (2/9)^11, or about 0.0000065%.

I'm calling shenanigans.


That's a rough approximation. You need to do combinatorics, i.e., count the total number of combinations with one of each race per group, divide by the total number of possible combinations for groups (using combinations does not adjust for the bye round player, but is irrelevant for the purpose of answering the random team question). So the probability should be higher than (2/9)^11, but still too small to be random.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
June 14 2010 17:45 GMT
#56
ahh what sick and loaded groups

Group A : Best

Group B : Calm

Group C : Jangbi

Group D : Fantasy

Group E : Leta EZPZ

Group F : The Revolutionist

Group G : ZerO

Group H : Shuttle

Group I : Shine, GRRRR

Group J : BaBy

Group K : Stork

Group L : LEEJAEDONG
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
June 14 2010 18:05 GMT
#57
LOLOLOL BISU VS MIND, lets do it yo.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 14 2010 18:23 GMT
#58
this OSL is the last hurrah of the protoss race.

C'mon Bisu, one last chance to fulfill your destiny, take whats rightfully yours
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 14 2010 18:25 GMT
#59
free's never made the OSL before? Seriously?
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
June 14 2010 18:26 GMT
#60
On June 15 2010 01:54 pettter wrote:
This is going to be a great OSL. Seriously, this lineup? Ssak is the only vaguely-unknown player of the entire Ro36.

Race distribution, skill distribution, all looking AWESOME.

Hoping for mantoss, anticipating LeeSsang.

Or hell, hoping for any damn protoss to win an OSL for once. Bisu if he can pull it together, but I'd rather see Stork get his second OSL title. But really, any toss will do. The last OSL win for a toss before Stork was Anytime in 2005.

I agree. I'd love to see Bisu back or a super competitive Stork. Other than that someone like Stats becoming really great would be nice too. Poor protoss...
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 19:38:32
June 14 2010 18:35 GMT
#61
On June 15 2010 01:30 motbob wrote:
I just want to note that the groups have the smallest possible number of the same races in each group. This seems really unlikely to be the product of randomly generated groups to me.

Just a rough calculation: every group has about a 2/9 chance of having one of each race, and we can apply that probability to the 11 groups that have one of each race, so the chance of the groups falling this way are about (2/9)^11, or about 0.0000065%.

I'm calling shenanigans.

It seems pretty obvious they went for race variations (1 of each race where possible), and then seeded the players of each race randomly into those slots. This way most groups would have to prepare for both races and we can avoid mirrors at this stage. These groups look great and I'm sure they'll be a lot more interesting than mirror matches.

edit: forgot to add that before randomizing the eligible candidates for each category (by race played) they likely also removed teammates from the list of potential opponents in the group.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 20:05:16
June 14 2010 18:47 GMT
#62
Snow is SOOOOO overhyped it's ridiculous - he will not make it past Ro36 and will be forever forgotten (except by CJ fanboys)
Bisu and Baby will make Ro8 only to be eliminated
Killer will advance over Skyhigh AND Stork (Skyhigh was eliminated from EVER 2009 by none other than ggaemo 2-0 in Ro36).
Jaedong will win this OSL.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 14 2010 18:56 GMT
#63
HYPE HYPE HYPE!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
June 14 2010 18:57 GMT
#64
Flash, Stats or Hyuk please!
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
June 14 2010 19:47 GMT
#65
According to the schedule, they're now putting the Bo3's for groups on separate days, but on the other hand they're putting three Bo3's on the same day, instead of 2 Bo3s when they used to only do one group at a time... If none of that was well written, please consult this handy-dandy calendar:

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/month_details.php?calendar_year=2010&calendar_month=6#day_16
... Knowmsayin'?
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
June 14 2010 20:04 GMT
#66
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 14 2010 20:04 GMT
#67
Really Snow Zero

That is one intense group
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
June 14 2010 20:07 GMT
#68
On June 15 2010 05:04 HnR)hT wrote:
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
June 14 2010 20:09 GMT
#69
Am I the only one who feels the OSL is very balanced racewise? Almost every group has one of each T, Z, P.

Hiya and Baby look to have the easiest groups to pass through to Ro16. Toughest groups are A, D, and K. Should produce some great games!
platinum? more like leaf
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
June 14 2010 20:13 GMT
#70
On June 15 2010 05:07 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 05:04 HnR)hT wrote:
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.


Like Mind killed Bisu in Batoo? Bisu will wtfuck him.

I don't think Bisu will ever get an easier group.
Bisu... ;-(
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 14 2010 20:33 GMT
#71
yea, ever since that MSL finals, Mind is like 0-4 against Bisu
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luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 14 2010 20:34 GMT
#72
Poor Pusan. Kwanro sadly is one of the best players no matter how stupid his play often looks and before that he has to face Leta (who is really bad at Starleagues so I think at least that is possible)
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 14 2010 20:40 GMT
#73
On June 15 2010 05:13 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 05:07 newvsoldschool wrote:
On June 15 2010 05:04 HnR)hT wrote:
Haha, Mind will kill Bisu again.


Like Mind killed Bisu in Batoo? Bisu will wtfuck him.

I don't think Bisu will ever get an easier group.


go.go's group was piss easy...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 14 2010 20:41 GMT
#74
On June 15 2010 03:47 asdfTT123 wrote:
Snow is SOOOOO overhyped it's ridiculous - he will not make it past Ro36 and will be forever forgotten (except by CJ fanboys)
Bisu and Baby will make Ro8 only to be eliminated
Killer will advance over Skyhigh AND Stork (Skyhigh was eliminated from EVER 2009 by none other than ggaemo 2-0 in Ro36).
Jaedong will win this OSL.

Snow really is incredibly overhyped. He will probably fall to Really but if he advances his chances against zero are maybe 10%. And Killer is neither the favorite against skyhigh and since stork has something to prove after his horrible MST he will probably demolish anyone who advances.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
June 14 2010 20:44 GMT
#75
I'm hoping they will do this seeding system for the quarterfinals ala MSL in order to avoid Jaedong v Flash quarters two seasons ago.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
June 14 2010 21:01 GMT
#76
Best groups ever! Final OSL belongs to a protoss. Damn terrans and their tanks and ugly zergs with their hydras will all fall to protoss!!!! Go Go Go!
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
June 14 2010 21:03 GMT
#77
Predictions:

(P)BeSt
(T)Canata
(Z)Hyuk
(T)Fantasy
(P)Pusan
(P)Bisu
(Z)ZerO
(T)fOrGG
(T)HiyA
(P)Stats (surprise, surprise)
(P)Stork
(P)Movie (you know it'll happen )
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-14 21:36:10
June 14 2010 21:17 GMT
#78
Predictions:

A - Best. Battle of the mediocre matchups in the first game, followed by Best showing his back-in-form PvT.
B - Free. Personally I think this is a tossup between Free and Calm, but I haven't watched a lot of their recent PvZ/ZvP.
C - Hyuk. Pure fanboyism.
D - Fantasy. Not much to say other than he's the best player in the group, and he isn't playing his bad matchup.
E - Leta. Not Bo5 means Leta will do well.
F - Bisu. Fanboyism; in reality Mind is probably more likely.
G - Zero. As much as I want Snow to make it out of this group, I just simply don't think his PvZ is good enough to beat someone of Zero's caliber.
H - Action. Shuttle and ForGG both seem very on-and-off these days.
I - Hiya. I just don't think Reach has it in him, and Shine's ZvT has always been awful.
J - Stats. Stats and Baby both have a decent shot, so I picked this one out of fanboyism again.
K - Stork. The obviously better player against two middle-tier players. If Stork doesn't pass this round, it's because he defeated himself.
L - Jaedong. Stop dreaming, Movie fans.

Poll Choices:
Winner - Flash. I'm not sure how the new OSL map plays out. It looks like Terran can be in a very good position surviving early mutalisk play (and lets be honest, TvZ is going to be the deciding matchup for this OSL). Ultimately, I think it will depend on how this map plays out.
Royal Roader - Stats. Legend of the Fall, combined with the fact that I think Stats has a better chance of out-PvZing Zero, Jaedong, and Effort than Snow does.
Overhyped - Snow. His PvT is immaculate, but he has shown absolutely no exceptional talent at the other two matchups.
Underdog - WHY IS HYUK NOT IN THIS POLL?

Edit: Legend of the Fall just made me rethink my answers. I now think Snow has a nonzero chance against Zero, Movie has a slight chance against Jaedong, and Stats is the most likely Royal Roader. I was also tempted to put Best as the winner, but reason prevailed.
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
June 14 2010 21:35 GMT
#79
Group A
(T)Sea

Group B
(T)Canata

Group C
(Z)Hyuk

Group D
(T)Fantasy

Group E
(T)Leta

Group F
(P)Bisu

Group G
(P)Snow

Group H
(Z)Action

Group I
(P)Reach

Group J
(T)BaBy

Group K
(P)Stork

Group L
(Z)Jaedong

Only a couple of "Reaches" :D
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 14 2010 21:43 GMT
#80
Sickkk, all the protosses mean that JD can finally add to his vP streak and ELO.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
June 14 2010 21:43 GMT
#81
Snow is Baby's age. He's not as good as people are making him out to be right now but the potential is clearly there. He probably won't make ro16 this season but the skills and swagger are already starting to make an appearance. If BW lives through 2011, I'd bet a lot on Snow being a major force.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4193 Posts
June 14 2010 21:48 GMT
#82
Jaedong is gonna breeze through his group.

So lucky he gets matched with a rookie and a slumping movie.
( ・´ー・`)
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
June 14 2010 23:59 GMT
#83
Hyuk versus Baby finals.
Let's see it.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
June 15 2010 00:02 GMT
#84
fuck yes leta gets an easy group

also jd vs movie lololol

this has the potential to be one of the most stacked osls ever
brood war for life, brood war forever
k.taeyang
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Peru145 Posts
June 15 2010 01:18 GMT
#85
No bisu in the poll?
Shame on you! YOU DON'T LONGER BELIEVE D:
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
June 15 2010 01:23 GMT
#86
lol rematch of MSL Finals in Bisu v. Mind

And Pusan/Reach actually have shots at making it out.

Proleague Spoiler: + Show Spoiler +
If Pusan played like he did against Really, he might actually overcome Leta


Predictions?
Group A: (T)Sea
Group B: (P)free
Group C: (P)JangBi
Group D: (T)Fantasy
Group E: (P)Pusan
Group F: (Z)hyvaa (Pessimism...T___T)
Group G: (Z)ZerO ((P)Snow is good at PvT, PvZ, not so much)
Group H: (T)fOrGG
Group I: (P)Reach (HOPE RIDES ALLOOONNE)
Group J: (T)BaBy
Group K: (P)Stork (Please Stork, don't "stork" yourself out of this group too. -.-)
Group L: (Z)Jaedong
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 15 2010 02:22 GMT
#87
wtf free hasn't made it out of prelims before? seriously!?

sea (since great > best)
calm
jangbi
fantasy (his TvT > light's, and his TvP hopefully should be able to beat brave -_-)
leta i hope!
MIND, repeat of his MSL finals
snow!!
forgg
hiya
baby (poor stats D
stork... idk maybe killer!
jaedong

I like the generally 3-race/group distribution
Writer
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 15 2010 03:02 GMT
#88
Wow, group G is tough as nails, so is the group with Calm though. That is if they all start playing up to their proper levels.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 03:15:38
June 15 2010 03:12 GMT
#89
My Ro4 Prediction:
(P)BeSt vs (T)Ssak 3-1
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Finals:
(P)BeSt vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2
boomer hands
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 03:15:27
June 15 2010 03:14 GMT
#90
On June 15 2010 12:12 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
My Ro4 Prediction:
(P)BeSt vs (T)Ssak 3-1
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Finals:
(P)BeSt vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Worst. predictions. ever.
This is more logical.
Ro4:
(P)Snow vs (Z)EffOrt 3-2
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Hydra 3-1

(P)Snow vs (Z)Hydra 3-2
No room for Movie ..
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9719 Posts
June 15 2010 03:16 GMT
#91
On June 15 2010 12:14 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 12:12 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
My Ro4 Prediction:
(P)BeSt vs (T)Ssak 3-1
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Finals:
(P)BeSt vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Worst. predictions. ever.
This is more logical.
Ro4:
(P)Snow vs (Z)EffOrt 3-2
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Hydra 3-1

(P)Snow vs (Z)Hydra 3-2
No room for Movie ..

i know, pity CJ got 5 instead of four.

but oh wait, i think skt got.. what? 6? that cant be right....
boomer hands
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 03:18:37
June 15 2010 03:17 GMT
#92
On June 15 2010 12:16 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 12:14 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 15 2010 12:12 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
My Ro4 Prediction:
(P)BeSt vs (T)Ssak 3-1
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Finals:
(P)BeSt vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Worst. predictions. ever.
This is more logical.
Ro4:
(P)Snow vs (Z)EffOrt 3-2
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Hydra 3-1

(P)Snow vs (Z)Hydra 3-2
No room for Movie ..

i know, pity CJ got 5 instead of four.

but oh wait, i think skt got.. what? 6? that cant be right....

5. your smart enough to not have Canata there
oh forgot Fantasy >_>..
hey wait a minute.. wheres Fantasy lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
June 15 2010 03:20 GMT
#93
i say Fantasy is the last terran standing in this OSL, and I say Baby goes further than Flash.

Hoping Bisu goes far but not seeing a toss make much of an impact.

I want Ruby to kick ass too :p

And i hope JD becomes the first player with 4 OSLs XD

Jaedong and Baby
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 03:40:48
June 15 2010 03:39 GMT
#94
On June 15 2010 12:17 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 12:16 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
On June 15 2010 12:14 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 15 2010 12:12 majesty.k)seRapH wrote:
My Ro4 Prediction:
(P)BeSt vs (T)Ssak 3-1
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Finals:
(P)BeSt vs (Z)Hyuk 3-2

Worst. predictions. ever.
This is more logical.
Ro4:
(P)Snow vs (Z)EffOrt 3-2
(T)sKyHigh vs (Z)Hydra 3-1

(P)Snow vs (Z)Hydra 3-2
No room for Movie ..

i know, pity CJ got 5 instead of four.

but oh wait, i think skt got.. what? 6? that cant be right....

5. your smart enough to not have Canata there
oh forgot Fantasy >_>..
hey wait a minute.. wheres Fantasy lol

fantasy lost to bisu in the ro8. canata lost to ssak's amazing 0% TvT.

HA, you sir, can no longer reply, lest you waste your 3000th post. you LOSE. good DAY sir.

+ Show Spoiler +
I SAID GOOD DAY
+ Show Spoiler +
you misspelled "you're"
boomer hands
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
June 15 2010 03:47 GMT
#95
Ro16 seeds:
Flash, EffOrt, Kal, Pure

lol I thought this was a group, I was like "how stacked"
ouch Jaedong vs mOvie, gonna be sexy PvZ
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
faction123
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia949 Posts
June 15 2010 04:12 GMT
#96
Snow better than Free, really? -_- I find it funny he's voted as most overhyped then he's also voted as most likely royal roader.
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ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 05:22:49
June 15 2010 05:19 GMT
#97
Group A
great vs BeSt
BeSt vs Sea

Group B
free vs Canata
free vs Calm

Group C
JangBi vs RuBy
JangBi vs Hyuk

Group D
Light vs Brave
Light vs Fantasy

Group E
Leta vs Pusan
Leta vs Kwanro

Group F
Bisu vs Mind
Bisu vs hyvaa
(though I do think bisu is being over hyped)

Group G
Really vs Snow
Snow vs ZerO

Group H
Shuttle vs Action
Shuttle vs fOrGG

Group I
HiyA vs Reach
HiyA vs Shine

Group J
Stats vs Hydra
Stats vs BaBy

Group K
sKyHigh vs Killer
sKyHigh vs Stork

Group L
Jaedong vs Ssak
Jaedong vs Movie


IMO

OH and P.S. Has everyone forgotten about how snow can't PvZ for his life? He will lose to the first zerg he encounters
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 15 2010 05:45 GMT
#98
Snow vs Kwanro makes me beg to differ.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
June 15 2010 05:47 GMT
#99
i want sea and hiya in the ro4 PLEASE
jaedong has a higher chance of losing to ssak than movie btw
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
June 15 2010 05:50 GMT
#100
Group A : (Z)great
Group B : (P)free
Group C : (Z)Hyuk
Group D : (T)Fantasy
Group E : (Z)Kwanro
Group F : (P)Bisu
Group G : (P)Snow
Group H : (P)Shuttle
Group I : (Z)Shine
Group J : (T)BaBy
Group K : (T)sKyHigh
Group L : (Z)Jaedong
You have the power to create your own destiny.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
June 15 2010 06:25 GMT
#101
On June 15 2010 06:43 Fr33t wrote:
Sickkk, all the protosses mean that JD can finally add to his vP streak and ELO.


the only reason jaedong doesn't have bigger streaks is because coaches aren't dumb enough to field people against him when he's hot

remember JvZ? he didn't play another zerg for what seemed, and probably was, a year.

now it's JvP.

teams' best chance of beating jd at his best is to just avoid him altogether.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
June 15 2010 07:09 GMT
#102
Intensely looking forward to:

free vs calm
jaedong vs movie

Extremely likely that both will happen, so I'll go ahead and assume.
Oh, my eSports
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7760 Posts
June 15 2010 08:02 GMT
#103
I feel bad for Action. Pretty shitty group. And running into ForGG is like every Zerg's worst nightmare at this point... just really hard to predict.

Anyways, these groups seem epic ^^
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
June 15 2010 08:07 GMT
#104
Woot go jaedong, should be some fun games can't wait til it starts
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 10:30:19
June 15 2010 10:29 GMT
#105
+ Show Spoiler [Predictions] +

Group A
(Z)great

He's playing very well right now. I think BeSt has a good chance here too and I'm pretty much writing off Sea due to his horrible inconsistency and general unpredictability all the time.

Group B
(P)free

YYT <3. Calm more likely to make it though .

Group C
(P)JangBi

Jangbi looking very strong recently. Ruby TvP? Nope. Hyuk might have a shot too. Damn ZvP.

Group D
(T)Fantasy

Fantasy should take this easy. Light won't even make it past Brave.

Group E
(T)Leta

Leta should destroy this group, but he never does. Oh well, LBing him anyway.

Group F
(P)Bisu

Mind and Hyvaa are like the two weakest Ro36ers that aren't unknown entities like Ssak. Seriously. Bisu will rape this group.

Group G
(Z)ZerO

Really vs Snow will be good. Winner getting raped by ZerO? Also good, but not in the same way. Seriously neither of those guys can vZ for shit, Zero has this easy (it's not the Ro8 yet, he won't lose).

Group H
(T)fOrGG

Shuttle if he can win against Action, but I don't think he can.

Group I
(T)HiyA

Hiya. I will be very surprised if he doesn't make it out here.

Group J
(T)BaBy

Baby should have no problems here.

Group K
(P)Stork

Neither Skyhigh nor Killer can stand up to Stork no matter what crappy skill level he's currently at. Dinotoss.

Group L
(Z)Jaedong

I think it would be awesome if Ssak won though. Movie ain't no thang.


Very nice group G, others are pretty mediocre in terms of group-of-death-ness but all in all if all the group favourites manage to advance we're shaping up to have an amazing OSL. Then again, all OSLs look promising in the Ro36 and we always end up with dumb shit like go.go vs. Bisu T_T
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
June 15 2010 11:19 GMT
#106
I dont get it why group G is so damn cool... the only question to me is who will get crushed by Zero...
Im sick of one MU players... They get far then fail miserably... I'm not saying i wanna see Flash and Stork and JD in every single finals, or Ro4, but if a player gets there, then i f*in' expect him to play good, and not just lay down and die (Free?, Kal? (okay they are not 1 MU wonders i know), Shine??).
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
June 15 2010 11:59 GMT
#107
Man, if Reach could advance that would be epic ! (Yes I know I'm an oldschool player fanboy) He looks like he hasn't lost that much of his skill since going to the military, he's still able to hang in there with the youg guns.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
June 15 2010 12:34 GMT
#108
I really hope that we will get proper JD-Flash finals this time, not some 3-0 or power outage bullshit. Bo3 Isn't good enough between these two.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 15 2010 14:55 GMT
#109
So sad HoeJJa didn't make it : / After Oldboy I can't help but cheer for him.

Can't wait to see how Group G turns out, I have to go with ZerO though.

I think all the Movie fans overestimate his chances. Jaedong can't lose to P these days it seems.
ATOBTTR
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 15:04:59
June 15 2010 15:04 GMT
#110
As a side note, why are we still calling him (T)Ssak, when there's no other (T)Mong to confuse him with now?
Moderator
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 15 2010 15:44 GMT
#111
On June 16 2010 00:04 TheYango wrote:
As a side note, why are we still calling him (T)Ssak, when there's no other (T)Mong to confuse him with now?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/1103_Mong would like to say hi to you.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
June 15 2010 17:09 GMT
#112
Group G is going to sweet, hopefully Snow can advance. Also almost every group has one of each race so not a lot of mirrors incoming, yay!
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 15 2010 17:49 GMT
#113
On June 15 2010 13:12 faction123 wrote:
Snow better than Free, really? -_- I find it funny he's voted as most overhyped then he's also voted as most likely royal roader.


It's cuz while both protoss have no chance to beat Jaedong. Snow actually has a little chance to beat Flash while free has not.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 18:24:13
June 15 2010 18:21 GMT
#114
Groups E (Leta, Pusan, Kwanro) and I (HiyA, Reach, Shine) are so unfair compared to G (Really, Snow, ZerO), J (Stats, Hydra, BaBy) and L (Jaedong, Ssak, Movie). It's not even funny. This OSL will have at least 2 bad players, and at least 3 good players will not be in it.

I hope for good games in (P)Movie vs (Z)Jaedong, (T)BaBy vs (P)Stats and (Z)ZerO vs (P)Snow.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 15 2010 18:39 GMT
#115
On June 16 2010 00:44 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2010 00:04 TheYango wrote:
As a side note, why are we still calling him (T)Ssak, when there's no other (T)Mong to confuse him with now?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/1103_Mong would like to say hi to you.

Yes, he was in the prelims, which is why people called SKT's Mong Ssak. Except, now that he's been eliminated, there's no one to confuse him with, and in general, more people know Ssak as Mong.
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HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 18:54:01
June 15 2010 18:49 GMT
#116
On June 16 2010 03:21 arbiter_md wrote:
Groups E (Leta, Pusan, Kwanro) and I (HiyA, Reach, Shine) are so unfair compared to G (Really, Snow, ZerO), J (Stats, Hydra, BaBy) and L (Jaedong, Ssak, Movie). It's not even funny. This OSL will have at least 2 bad players, and at least 3 good players will not be in it.

I hope for good games in (P)Movie vs (Z)Jaedong, (T)BaBy vs (P)Stats and (Z)ZerO vs (P)Snow.

Those are not great examples.

In group E, one or two of the players definitely deserve to be in the round of 16.

In I, two players deserve it. Shine is a good player (sorry Reach).

In G, all three players should really be in the RO16.

As for J, it wouldn't be a great tragedy if/when Stats and Hydra drop out. You overrate them if you think otherwise.

L is unfair in that Movie and Jaedong shouldn't be in the same group.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 15 2010 18:52 GMT
#117
Rofl Jaedong is going to rip Movie's...
...
apart.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 15 2010 19:14 GMT
#118
On June 16 2010 03:52 flamewheel wrote:
Rofl Jaedong is going to rip Movie's...
...
apart.


CLEARLY since movie is the last non-stork protoss to beat jaedong HE HAS A CHANCE!
Writer
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
June 15 2010 19:21 GMT
#119
I feel sorry for Movie.

Qualifying only to get eliminated immediately
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1722 Posts
June 15 2010 19:37 GMT
#120
Go Protoss and Zerg (exception for Baby, Ruby and Fantasy in their group).
Leee Jaee Doong
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
June 15 2010 20:28 GMT
#121
Bisu the Royal Roader



other OSLs dont count :C
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
June 15 2010 20:28 GMT
#122
huh.. intersting Bisu vs Mind ;D
who better to get out of your slump against then the man who put you in it?
.. the first time
cw)minsean(ru
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-15 20:58:29
June 15 2010 20:57 GMT
#123
whoa, so many epic groups.

groups a, b, c and g are so tough. and bisu vs mind ^


edit: and wtf, free a royal roader? has he really never made it out of the osl prelims?
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
June 15 2010 21:23 GMT
#124
On June 16 2010 02:49 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2010 13:12 faction123 wrote:
Snow better than Free, really? -_- I find it funny he's voted as most overhyped then he's also voted as most likely royal roader.


It's cuz while both protoss have no chance to beat Jaedong. Snow actually has a little chance to beat Flash while free has not.


Snow has decent chance of beating Flash, hes been looking mortal lately. However Free also has little chance of beating Jaedong. He has a winning reccord against him.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
June 15 2010 21:25 GMT
#125
whats up with no mirror MUs at all??? Did they fix who plays who in this round so no mirrors was going to occur?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 15 2010 21:27 GMT
#126
Those are some seriously hard groups. This might be the toughest round of 36 we've ever seen.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
June 15 2010 21:39 GMT
#127
okay lets predict this bitch

Group A
great < BeSt
BeSt < Sea

Group B
free > Canata
free > Calm

Group C
JangBi > RuBy
JangBi < Hyuk

Group D
Light > Brave
Light < Fantasy

Group E
Leta > Pusan
Leta > Kwanro

Group F
Bisu > Mind
Bisu > hyvaa

Group G
Really < Snow
Snow < ZerO

Group H
Shuttle > Action
Shuttle > fOrGG

Group I
HiyA > Reach
HiyA > Shine

Group J
Stats > Hydra
Stats < BaBy

Group K
sKyHigh < Killer
Killer > Stork

Group L
Jaedong > Ssak
Jaedong > Movie

group L group of death lol
cw)minsean(ru
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1722 Posts
June 15 2010 22:22 GMT
#128
(P)free vs (T)Canata
(P)JangBi vs (T)RuBy
(P)Brave vs (T)Light
(P)Pusan vs (T)Leta
(P)Bisu vs (T)Mind
(P)Snow vs (T)Really
(P)Reach vs (T)HiyA
(P)BeSt vs (Z)great
(P)Shuttle vs (Z)Action
(P)Stats vs (Z)Hydra
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Ssak
(Z)Killer vs (T)sKyHigh

Winner vs (T)BaBy
Winner vs (T)fOrGG
Winner vs (T)Sea
Winner vs (T)Fantasy
Winner vs (Z)Calm
Winner vs (Z)Hyuk
Winner vs (Z)Kwanro
Winner vs (Z)hyvaa
Winner vs (Z)ZerO
Winner vs (Z)Shine
Winner vs (P)Stork
Winner vs (P)Movie

Lots of initial PvT matchups, with a bunch of zergs and terrans waiting for the winners, and poor Movie waiting for Jaedong. I think Zergs will do good.
Leee Jaee Doong
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
June 15 2010 23:39 GMT
#129
On June 16 2010 06:39 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
okay lets predict this bitch

Group A
great < BeSt
BeSt < Sea


can BeSt PvZ? T_T

On June 16 2010 06:39 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Group L
Jaedong > Ssak
Jaedong > Movie

group L group of death lol


you mean, group of Jaedong?
Writer
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
June 16 2010 00:44 GMT
#130
I feel like Zero is the new Hwasin (minus match-fixing...). You expect to see him in the Ro16 and usually the Ro8, but not to actually win the damn thing.
Zero fighting.
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