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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 12 2010 00:35 GMT
#121
On April 09 2010 16:02 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:48 moopie wrote:
On April 09 2010 11:36 phosphorylation wrote:
korean netizens are raising the suspicion of match fixing in some of SC matches
and the removal of some of these players is due to that


can you elaborate please?


on starcraft gallery in dcinside (which is THE definitve sc forum in Korea) a lot of people mention that certain players - especially the non-top players who are not paid very much -- are tempted with sizeable sum of cash by the dark hand to purposely lose certain games
this is so taht these fellows can bet on the result of the game with certainty
a recent game that many people point out as a possible fixed match is hwasin vs luxury on proleague this jan
a lot of people seem convinced (and some claim insider progamer knowledge)
so theres certainly a fair chance
some say savior was invoved in this shit back in the day

Woa...

But I thought Luxury was paid enough...
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 12 2010 03:21 GMT
#122
On April 09 2010 16:02 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:48 moopie wrote:
On April 09 2010 11:36 phosphorylation wrote:
korean netizens are raising the suspicion of match fixing in some of SC matches
and the removal of some of these players is due to that


can you elaborate please?


on starcraft gallery in dcinside (which is THE definitve sc forum in Korea) a lot of people mention that certain players - especially the non-top players who are not paid very much -- are tempted with sizeable sum of cash by the dark hand to purposely lose certain games
this is so taht these fellows can bet on the result of the game with certainty
a recent game that many people point out as a possible fixed match is hwasin vs luxury on proleague this jan
a lot of people seem convinced (and some claim insider progamer knowledge)
so theres certainly a fair chance
some say savior was invoved in this shit back in the day


Holy crap. Really? I hope that's not true but I can totally see how it could happen. Some of these kids are paid close to nothing.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 03:06:38
April 13 2010 02:58 GMT
#123
Well, given the illegal starcraft betting incidents.....

I guess we know a lot of who was actually involved here (besides some of the crappier players demoted for sucking).

Upmagic, lux, sangho, etc.

I guess by next month or so with roster changes we will see the rest of the demotions for illegal gambling.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 13 2010 03:30 GMT
#124
On April 13 2010 11:58 eshlow wrote:
Well, given the illegal starcraft betting incidents.....

I guess we know a lot of who was actually involved here (besides some of the crappier players demoted for sucking).

Upmagic, lux, sangho, etc.

I guess by next month or so with roster changes we will see the rest of the demotions for illegal gambling.


We dont 'know', we assume. They could have been moved for simply the accusation of throwing games, and after things settle down and get sorted out they may be back. Some could simply have been moved for performing poorly.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 13 2010 03:41 GMT
#125
On April 13 2010 12:30 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 11:58 eshlow wrote:
Well, given the illegal starcraft betting incidents.....

I guess we know a lot of who was actually involved here (besides some of the crappier players demoted for sucking).

Upmagic, lux, sangho, etc.

I guess by next month or so with roster changes we will see the rest of the demotions for illegal gambling.


We dont 'know', we assume. They could have been moved for simply the accusation of throwing games, and after things settle down and get sorted out they may be back. Some could simply have been moved for performing poorly.


Yes, we don't know but it is very suggestive isn't it. The changes in PL, big changes in proleague rosters. Also, their names were leaked before. Just would seem as a huge coincident. I would love for all this to be just coincident but too be honest it all seems to suspicious.

All I hope that Stork, Jaedong and Bisu weren't really involved in it even though they are also under scrutiny...
Apexplayer
Profile Joined September 2009
United States406 Posts
April 13 2010 04:15 GMT
#126
stork needs gold for WOW account, bet he is in on this.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
April 13 2010 05:38 GMT
#127
It has to suck double time for a legitimate player to be removed from the roster right now. You feel useless because you've failed as a player, AND the fans think you betrayed the team and broke the law.

A list of guilty players better be released later on, if only to definitively clear the names of the innocent (same with the affected matches).
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 13 2010 05:42 GMT
#128
On April 13 2010 14:38 okum wrote:
It has to suck double time for a legitimate player to be removed from the roster right now. You feel useless because you've failed as a player, AND the fans think you betrayed the team and broke the law.


All the more reasons to not to jump to conclusions based on rosters and word of mouth.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1578 Posts
April 13 2010 05:42 GMT
#129
On April 13 2010 14:38 okum wrote:
It has to suck double time for a legitimate player to be removed from the roster right now. You feel useless because you've failed as a player, AND the fans think you betrayed the team and broke the law.


poor Tushin
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33714 Posts
April 13 2010 06:24 GMT
#130
On April 09 2010 16:02 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 11:48 moopie wrote:
On April 09 2010 11:36 phosphorylation wrote:
korean netizens are raising the suspicion of match fixing in some of SC matches
and the removal of some of these players is due to that


can you elaborate please?


on starcraft gallery in dcinside (which is THE definitve sc forum in Korea) a lot of people mention that certain players - especially the non-top players who are not paid very much -- are tempted with sizeable sum of cash by the dark hand to purposely lose certain games
this is so taht these fellows can bet on the result of the game with certainty
a recent game that many people point out as a possible fixed match is hwasin vs luxury on proleague this jan
a lot of people seem convinced (and some claim insider progamer knowledge)
so theres certainly a fair chance
some say savior was invoved in this shit back in the day


the starcraft gallery is practically 4chan, oceans of shit and a few pearls here and there
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 13 2010 07:09 GMT
#131
upmagic + lux? =/
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