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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 09 2010 10:06 GMT
#221
sc.plu.cn
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
February 09 2010 10:29 GMT
#222
On February 09 2010 09:12 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 09:04 haruharu wrote:
Where am i supposed to get my dose of pro games D: .


wfbrood!

I always read this as "W T F BROOD" but then I just realized from this thread that theres no T ... lol
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 09 2010 10:31 GMT
#223
On February 09 2010 18:00 f10esqftw wrote:
Wouldn't be the best quality, but maybe someone with a good connection can screen cap from the live streams? I sometimes record directly off of ogn.ferron.pe, for example, but my connection (and availability) isn't reliable enough to record vods.


Yeah I was thinking this as well. I'd be willing to do it for at least some of the games, except I don't have a youtube account that can upload >10min games.

I'm sure if you got 3 or 4 people to share an account they could do it reliably and upload the games pretty quickly, maybe even faster than Baezzi is doing now.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
February 09 2010 12:06 GMT
#224
todays vods is up on wfbrood.com
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
February 09 2010 15:24 GMT
#225
i have a solution, but it requires someone like BaeZZi to continue uploading them on a regular basis. I'll be back soon with more infoz....
UnderWorld_Dream
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada219 Posts
February 09 2010 15:33 GMT
#226
its a big lost indeed.
time for Nevake to step up!!
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
February 10 2010 00:13 GMT
#227
Why don't people just save the games when they are streamed on livestream?
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 03:55:33
February 10 2010 03:42 GMT
#228
On February 09 2010 06:29 T.O.P. wrote:
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On February 09 2010 06:20 hacpee wrote:
On February 09 2010 02:13 hasuprotoss wrote:
On February 08 2010 16:03 hacpee wrote:
On February 08 2010 15:01 littlechava wrote:
On February 08 2010 14:33 StarcraftMan wrote:
On February 08 2010 13:30 Cambium wrote:
It was not his viewpoint but his attitude and immature reactions.

But yes, his contribution towards our SC community is quite significant. Unless someone else picks up the slack, him ceasing to upload would leave our community destitute.


Yeah, I agree. We'll have to overlook Baezzi's character (or maybe lack of character) and consider the positives he brings to the community. I definitely agree with Plexa bringing up that thread as it gives us a greater understanding of who we're dealing with, but at the same time, we can't deny the benefits that Jon747 account has brought to the Starcraft community and the benefits it has even brought to TeamLiquid.

The real tragedy is that oskyloveo has apparently stopped uploading. Baezzi isn't the problem. He's replaceable. He was a nice convenience, but eventually we'll find a way around him, and we won't have to rely on a person as fucked up as he is anymore. Good riddance.


You look like a great candidate to replace him. When will you be uploading vods within a day of the matches?



I assume you're calling out chava's calling out of Baezzi so I'll comment here.

Uploading VODs when you have a reliable source isn't that hard. I know, I used to do it for the TL tracker. Sure I didn't upload Proleague VODs, but my connection was a lot slower and my computer space was kind of limited so I just didn't feel it worth the bandwidth (and there wasn't a great demand for them back in the day). But seriously, uploading VODs "fast" is like this:

1.) Click a few buttons to open up a window where you would download said VODs (for me a clubbox page way back in the day, for Baezzi apparently oskyloveo's webpage).
2.) Refresh every once in awhile until you see the VODs up.
3.) Begin downloading VODs.
4.) Come back in (hours) minutes when the downloads finish.
5.) Rename as you feel appropriate
6.) Click a few more buttons.

That's all it takes. Seriously it's just a couple of clicks and a few seconds taken to refresh the page. It's not that challenging of a task. Sure, the time adds up, but it's not that hard/draining as you appear to make it out to be. Of course Baezzi should be congratulated for doing it consistently; howerver, we should also not forget the transgressions he has done to TL by stealing a director account. Luckily nevake stepped in and provided us with another one and I put my faith in zatic to change a few things and create a much sexier channel for TL and non-Korean Starcraft fans.

Edit: Thank you very much to the person from wfbrood's site system that posted how to watch VODs on that website. It'll be a great help to the people who like fast VODs.


So you're volunteering to upload the vods? Thanks a bunch.

Do you have a youtube director's account to donate?

There are other sites you can upload to. Do you volunteer too? So many volunteers, I feel blessed.

Seriously, if you don't have anything good to say about him, don't bash him either directly or indirectly. He's been uploading SC vods every day for 3 years. That is so much time dedicated by him. He does not deserve to be passive aggressively bashed by people that haven't put as much effort into the community as he has.

Don't demonize him just because he had a run-in with the TL admins. Not with the SC community; with the TL admins.
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
February 10 2010 03:46 GMT
#229
On February 09 2010 17:18 nozaro33 wrote:
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On February 09 2010 17:02 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
On February 09 2010 08:55 Crt wrote:
People seem to hate this Baezzi guy just because he took the Jon747 account. Sure, but as far as I and many viewers are concerned, this is THE guy who has been consistent and fast and reliable when it comes to VODs.

Taking the Jon747 account or not is of little relevance. He can use another user name or whatever and it's still okay for him to request some help to compensate for his time and dedication.

I don't see why people recommending not donating to the guy just because of some conflict between him and TL.


Do you have any idea how hard these accounts are to obtain these days? It's not really a small thing; but that's not why we're recommending people don't donate. It's because he has shown the tendency to be childish and go with the slightest whims and there's a decent chance this is just a scheme.


Yeah, and you have to ponder on whether or not you'll get consistent results AFTER donating. I'm not saying anybody's trying to steal money or anything, just mentioning a safety precaution that the whole donating/paypal thing isn't a business deal. What if you donate money and get nothing in return?


Ya this guy puts up vods almost automatically every day for no money, and once you donate some money, he'll just run off. OK sure.
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
February 10 2010 03:50 GMT
#230


Well I guess this means I have no choice but to just watch all my estro games live...
RIP eSTRO :(
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 04:04:22
February 10 2010 04:03 GMT
#231
Sad sad news. Fast upload is essential for Starcraft. By the time the vod is out 3 days later, my interest would have moved on elsewhere.

If donation can solve this problem, I am willing to contribute my part, as long as I know where my money is going.

I'll go check out wfbrood in the meanwhile...

Regardless of what other people are saying, I give my wholehearted compliment to Baezzi and Zatic.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 04:32:35
February 10 2010 04:24 GMT
#232
To all you new posters who have no understanding of the situation:

The veterans/staff are not demonizing him, he did the worst thing he could possibly do to TL. At the time, TL was in the process of improving the TLPD by attaching youtube videos to the side. TL needed videos, and Baezzi needed a director's account to avoid splitting the files. TL gave Baezzi access to a director's account (at the time, they were extremely rare, much more rare than an SC2 beta key) so that both parties could mutually benefit. Over some retarded rape argument, despite the fact that L2W profusely apologized and attempted to resolve the situation, Baezzi pulled the plug, changed the password to the account and banned TLPD's connections to his videos.

He's just a douche, but at the same time, as I repeatedly said before, I do respect his time and effort put into uploading the videos. I don't think TL, as a community, should support his cause, but if you want to do it, it's entirely up to you.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 04:36:56
February 10 2010 04:31 GMT
#233
On February 10 2010 12:42 hacpee wrote:
Don't demonize him just because he had a run-in with the TL admins. Not with the SC community; with the TL admins.


With TL. If you don't know your history, don't comment.

There is a reason why a lot of people (who were around back then) hate him, and it's well deserved. If you weren't around, then you'd just have to take other people's words for it. Why would TL-admins do something detrimental to the SC community they tried so hard to foster? Geez.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
February 10 2010 06:13 GMT
#234
The Jon747 channel has been my TV for the last 2 years and the videos don't stop being uploaded unless there is a break in the different Leagues. The amount of work and dedication it takes for such a production should not be understated.



TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
February 10 2010 08:09 GMT
#235
Hey serious idc how douche he is (not my opinion, i always thought he was cool) dont talk bad about him ok? 95% of foreigners (if not all) rely on him to watch and obtain SC videos, and im pretty sure most of u guys reading this are too. At least show some sincerity instead of just crap talking him
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 10 2010 08:13 GMT
#236
No trinimasta that is simply not true. The entire community does not rely on baezzi for their SC entertainment. They relied on oskyloveo. And furthermore, I have faith that zatic will be able to rectify the situation thus ending any dependence we did have on baezzi.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 08:26:11
February 10 2010 08:24 GMT
#237
Lol, the koreans are using the vods that Solinren ripped.

[image loading]
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 08:27:44
February 10 2010 08:25 GMT
#238
On February 10 2010 13:24 Cambium wrote:
To all you new posters who have no understanding of the situation:

The veterans/staff are not demonizing him, he did the worst thing he could possibly do to TL. At the time, TL was in the process of improving the TLPD by attaching youtube videos to the side. TL needed videos, and Baezzi needed a director's account to avoid splitting the files. TL gave Baezzi access to a director's account (at the time, they were extremely rare, much more rare than an SC2 beta key) so that both parties could mutually benefit. Over some retarded rape argument, despite the fact that L2W profusely apologized and attempted to resolve the situation, Baezzi pulled the plug, changed the password to the account and banned TLPD's connections to his videos.

He's just a douche, but at the same time, as I repeatedly said before, I do respect his time and effort put into uploading the videos. I don't think TL, as a community, should support his cause, but if you want to do it, it's entirely up to you.


The question is, has he made up for his past actions towards TL for his work in the last several years. You can't deny his contributions towards the SC community as a whole. You also can't deny that TL has benefitted from Baezzi because people like me and Arsenalgunner wouldn't even be on TL without Baezzi's work.

Now if he had stolen the account and never uploaded a single VOD, then yes, he should be crucified. However, he put the account to good use and the SC community and TL have ultimately benefitted from his work and more.

It's kind of like you have $1 million to donate to Unicef, but a thief steals your $1 million. The thief then invests your $1 million and makes $1 billion, and then the thief decides to donate all $1 billion to Unicef. Yeah, you can't condone the thief for stealing your money, but in a circular way, the thief paid back your $1 million to Unicef, plus $999 million more to Unicef.
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
February 10 2010 08:32 GMT
#239
On February 10 2010 17:13 Plexa wrote:
No trinimasta that is simply not true. The entire community does not rely on baezzi for their SC entertainment. They relied on oskyloveo. And furthermore, I have faith that zatic will be able to rectify the situation thus ending any dependence we did have on baezzi.


I noticed Nevake has been pretty quick with the uploads lately. Even some of the matches tonight are being uploaded now. Hope the Nevake channel can keep it up!

Great job Zatic!
bluegoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States141 Posts
February 10 2010 08:43 GMT
#240
On February 10 2010 17:25 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2010 13:24 Cambium wrote:
To all you new posters who have no understanding of the situation:

The veterans/staff are not demonizing him, he did the worst thing he could possibly do to TL. At the time, TL was in the process of improving the TLPD by attaching youtube videos to the side. TL needed videos, and Baezzi needed a director's account to avoid splitting the files. TL gave Baezzi access to a director's account (at the time, they were extremely rare, much more rare than an SC2 beta key) so that both parties could mutually benefit. Over some retarded rape argument, despite the fact that L2W profusely apologized and attempted to resolve the situation, Baezzi pulled the plug, changed the password to the account and banned TLPD's connections to his videos.

He's just a douche, but at the same time, as I repeatedly said before, I do respect his time and effort put into uploading the videos. I don't think TL, as a community, should support his cause, but if you want to do it, it's entirely up to you.


The question is, has he made up for his past actions towards TL for his work in the last several years. You can't deny his contributions towards the SC community as a whole. You also can't deny that TL has benefitted from Baezzi because people like me and Arsenalgunner wouldn't even be on TL without Baezzi's work.

Now if he had stolen the account and never uploaded a single VOD, then yes, he should be crucified. However, he put the account to good use and the SC community and TL have ultimately benefitted from his work and more.

It's kind of like you have $1 million to donate to Unicef, but a thief steals your $1 million. The thief then invests your $1 million and makes $1 billion, and then the thief decides to donate all $1 billion to Unicef. Yeah, you can't condone the thief for stealing your money, but in a circular way, the thief paid back your $1 million to Unicef, plus $999 million more to Unicef.

^^^
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