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Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
February 08 2010 23:55 GMT
#201
People seem to hate this Baezzi guy just because he took the Jon747 account. Sure, but as far as I and many viewers are concerned, this is THE guy who has been consistent and fast and reliable when it comes to VODs.

Taking the Jon747 account or not is of little relevance. He can use another user name or whatever and it's still okay for him to request some help to compensate for his time and dedication.

I don't see why people recommending not donating to the guy just because of some conflict between him and TL.
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
February 08 2010 23:58 GMT
#202
On February 09 2010 08:51 PangO wrote:
how much money would it take per month to upload everything?


depends, if u're a 12 yo then it's probably free, but if you're a professional IT guy making $100K/yr then it's $50/hour just for labor.
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
February 09 2010 00:04 GMT
#203
Where am i supposed to get my dose of pro games D: .
Long live BroodWar!
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
February 09 2010 00:12 GMT
#204
On February 09 2010 09:04 haruharu wrote:
Where am i supposed to get my dose of pro games D: .


wfbrood!
HEY MEYT
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 00:16:49
February 09 2010 00:14 GMT
#205
On February 09 2010 08:55 Crt wrote:
People seem to hate this Baezzi guy just because he took the Jon747 account. Sure, but as far as I and many viewers are concerned, this is THE guy who has been consistent and fast and reliable when it comes to VODs.

Taking the Jon747 account or not is of little relevance. He can use another user name or whatever and it's still okay for him to request some help to compensate for his time and dedication.

I don't see why people recommending not donating to the guy just because of some conflict between him and TL.


lol. not the issue at all.

please read the thread or use search function where many have explained what occured between baezzi and TL
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
February 09 2010 00:14 GMT
#206
On February 09 2010 08:51 Cambium wrote:
That's not what he said at all...


No, he was belittling Baezzi's effort, and indirectly, belittling Zatic's effort. Some of us do appreciate the time Baezzi and Zatic put in - as Zatic put it, it becomes a "grind" to do it timely, consistently, and for that long of a time.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
February 09 2010 00:29 GMT
#207
The answer is obvious...TL needs to start collecting money to buy the follwing:
3 powerful computers with TV capture cards
Korean Cable (or whatever) with 3 boxes
Awesome Korean internet
And about $5 extra per month

Then just give it all to Chill or Artosis or one of the casters in Korea. They can hook all that stuff up in a closet somewhere and stream EVERYTHING 24/7 over to some server R1CH will undoubtedly write in 12 minutes which will automagically reencode the streams, cut out the commercials, then properly name and upload the VODs. It's that simple.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
February 09 2010 00:35 GMT
#208
On February 09 2010 09:29 tofucake wrote:
The answer is obvious...TL needs to start collecting money to buy the follwing:
3 powerful computers with TV capture cards
Korean Cable (or whatever) with 3 boxes
Awesome Korean internet
And about $5 extra per month

Then just give it all to Chill or Artosis or one of the casters in Korea. They can hook all that stuff up in a closet somewhere and stream EVERYTHING 24/7 over to some server R1CH will undoubtedly write in 12 minutes which will automagically reencode the streams, cut out the commercials, then properly name and upload the VODs. It's that simple.


yeah they can fund it with all the tsl prize money!

...just kidding
HEY MEYT
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
February 09 2010 00:55 GMT
#209
On February 09 2010 08:04 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 02:13 hasuprotoss wrote:
On February 08 2010 16:03 hacpee wrote:
On February 08 2010 15:01 littlechava wrote:
On February 08 2010 14:33 StarcraftMan wrote:
On February 08 2010 13:30 Cambium wrote:
It was not his viewpoint but his attitude and immature reactions.

But yes, his contribution towards our SC community is quite significant. Unless someone else picks up the slack, him ceasing to upload would leave our community destitute.


Yeah, I agree. We'll have to overlook Baezzi's character (or maybe lack of character) and consider the positives he brings to the community. I definitely agree with Plexa bringing up that thread as it gives us a greater understanding of who we're dealing with, but at the same time, we can't deny the benefits that Jon747 account has brought to the Starcraft community and the benefits it has even brought to TeamLiquid.

The real tragedy is that oskyloveo has apparently stopped uploading. Baezzi isn't the problem. He's replaceable. He was a nice convenience, but eventually we'll find a way around him, and we won't have to rely on a person as fucked up as he is anymore. Good riddance.


You look like a great candidate to replace him. When will you be uploading vods within a day of the matches?

I assume you're calling out chava's calling out of Baezzi so I'll comment here.

Uploading VODs when you have a reliable source isn't that hard. I know, I used to do it for the TL tracker. [....]

1.) Click a few buttons to open up a window where you would download said VODs (for me a clubbox page way back in the day, for Baezzi apparently oskyloveo's webpage).
2.) Refresh every once in awhile until you see the VODs up.
3.) Begin downloading VODs.
4.) Come back in (hours) minutes when the downloads finish.
5.) Rename as you feel appropriate
6.) Click a few more buttons.

While I agree that the source is the actual bottleneck uploading to youtube is way more annoying than adding a torrent to a tracker. It's actually so much grind work that I almost can't believe Baezzi did this for so long. Actually maybe that's how he got insane haha.

I coded a bunch of tools that help with the process without those I would never be able to upload that much. Actually just uploading the TSL Vods once a week is already so annoying I can't imagine doing that every day good god.


I've never uploaded a video to youtube so I wouldn't know anything about the uploading there. Torrents were really easy to make, just tell your client to tell it to make a torrent and then upload it to the tracker.

If making youtube videos is actually a decent bit of work then yeah, I guess he's more worthy than I was making it out.
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Radivel-X17
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada144 Posts
February 09 2010 07:18 GMT
#210
On February 08 2010 23:00 Chill wrote:
Right the real problem here is sc2gg. Let's bring back the rivalry!


I was wondering when you and this would show up.
I used to run SC2GG, if you remember that. Come to NHFFA discord. It's where a bunch of old players who all suck at BW hang out, as well as people who like to play FFAs for some reason. https://discord.com/invite/kWNQvnd
RiZn
Profile Joined March 2009
United States22 Posts
February 09 2010 07:19 GMT
#211
get together and donate him some money- that's what a community is supposed to do
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 07:21:32
February 09 2010 07:21 GMT
#212
buck a piece
since 98'
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
February 09 2010 07:23 GMT
#213
donating money to baezzi isn't going to make oskyloveo come back... kind of hard to believe that this whole time (at least 2-3 years) the entire foreign viewership has thrived predominantly on the work of only one guy. wfbrood would be a legit replacement if it weren't chinese and laggy.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
February 09 2010 07:49 GMT
#214
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK

I wondered why my homepage had less SC Vods
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
GuYuTe-
Profile Joined February 2005
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-09 07:51:43
February 09 2010 07:51 GMT
#215
On February 08 2010 11:48 ArvickHero wrote:
If there's no other way to get the VODs, I'd be willing to donate some money for this


Definitely. Surely there is some kind of way we can raise money as a community to support this great service. I won't be able to sleep at night without my Jon747 vids.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
February 09 2010 08:02 GMT
#216
On February 09 2010 08:55 Crt wrote:
People seem to hate this Baezzi guy just because he took the Jon747 account. Sure, but as far as I and many viewers are concerned, this is THE guy who has been consistent and fast and reliable when it comes to VODs.

Taking the Jon747 account or not is of little relevance. He can use another user name or whatever and it's still okay for him to request some help to compensate for his time and dedication.

I don't see why people recommending not donating to the guy just because of some conflict between him and TL.


Do you have any idea how hard these accounts are to obtain these days? It's not really a small thing; but that's not why we're recommending people don't donate. It's because he has shown the tendency to be childish and go with the slightest whims and there's a decent chance this is just a scheme.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
February 09 2010 08:18 GMT
#217
On February 09 2010 17:02 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2010 08:55 Crt wrote:
People seem to hate this Baezzi guy just because he took the Jon747 account. Sure, but as far as I and many viewers are concerned, this is THE guy who has been consistent and fast and reliable when it comes to VODs.

Taking the Jon747 account or not is of little relevance. He can use another user name or whatever and it's still okay for him to request some help to compensate for his time and dedication.

I don't see why people recommending not donating to the guy just because of some conflict between him and TL.


Do you have any idea how hard these accounts are to obtain these days? It's not really a small thing; but that's not why we're recommending people don't donate. It's because he has shown the tendency to be childish and go with the slightest whims and there's a decent chance this is just a scheme.


Yeah, and you have to ponder on whether or not you'll get consistent results AFTER donating. I'm not saying anybody's trying to steal money or anything, just mentioning a safety precaution that the whole donating/paypal thing isn't a business deal. What if you donate money and get nothing in return?
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-10 10:36:20
February 09 2010 09:00 GMT
#218
Wouldn't be the best quality, but maybe someone with a good connection can screen cap from the live streams? I sometimes record directly off of ogn.ferron.pe, for example, but my connection (and availability) isn't reliable enough to record vods.
aka Moletrap
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
February 09 2010 09:49 GMT
#219
sigh. it is not just oskyloveo but all other rippers i preferred stopped uploading
due to the license issues recently.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
February 09 2010 09:55 GMT
#220
i'm sad.
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