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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 25 2010 19:28 GMT
#461
you are obsessed, you invest hours, maybe days to demonstrate that your point its good, but you re wasting your time, your analysis its fine, the problem its not Kwark, its Kespa ruling system, its the show itself, the context where the decision was made, that night, the fans ( all of us watching the finals). The show was screwed. The entertaining its beyond the maths and statistics, you can get fun running test, plotting maps, reading data about the game, but the show its different...

You need take some air men, u need go to a bar with friends, get a girl and watch a soccer final, and make the difference between play a soccer simulation in your PS3 alone in your home.

Beat after beat i will become stronger.
boredcouch
Profile Joined May 2008
United States110 Posts
January 25 2010 19:34 GMT
#462
On January 26 2010 04:28 No_eL wrote:
you are obsessed, you invest hours, maybe days to demonstrate that your point its good, but you re wasting your time, your analysis its fine, the problem its not Kwark, its Kespa ruling system, its the show itself, the context where the decision was made, that night, the fans ( all of us watching the finals). The show was screwed. The entertaining its beyond the maths and statistics, you can get fun running test, plotting maps, reading data about the game, but the show its different...

You need take some air men, u need go to a bar with friends, get a girl and watch a soccer final, and make the difference between play a soccer simulation in your PS3 alone in your home.



You need to shut up as your whole analysis involves no facts, just stupid useless fluff.
starcraft is the greatest game ever
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 25 2010 19:38 GMT
#463
On January 26 2010 04:34 boredcouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 04:28 No_eL wrote:
you are obsessed, you invest hours, maybe days to demonstrate that your point its good, but you re wasting your time, your analysis its fine, the problem its not Kwark, its Kespa ruling system, its the show itself, the context where the decision was made, that night, the fans ( all of us watching the finals). The show was screwed. The entertaining its beyond the maths and statistics, you can get fun running test, plotting maps, reading data about the game, but the show its different...

You need take some air men, u need go to a bar with friends, get a girl and watch a soccer final, and make the difference between play a soccer simulation in your PS3 alone in your home.



You need to shut up as your whole analysis involves no facts, just stupid useless fluff.


And you're bm and dont have respect. My "useless fluff" its just another opinion. Facts are not only maths, youre not a fucking robot.
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Weryeery
Profile Joined June 2008
288 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 19:40:47
January 25 2010 19:40 GMT
#464
On January 26 2010 02:04 Tien wrote:
Is that unfair? Sure as hell it's unfair for Flash. But does it matter? No it does not matter, the rules are the rules.


There's nothing more to argue.


Case closed.


The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
January 25 2010 19:51 GMT
#465
On January 26 2010 04:38 No_eL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 04:34 boredcouch wrote:
On January 26 2010 04:28 No_eL wrote:
you are obsessed, you invest hours, maybe days to demonstrate that your point its good, but you re wasting your time, your analysis its fine, the problem its not Kwark, its Kespa ruling system, its the show itself, the context where the decision was made, that night, the fans ( all of us watching the finals). The show was screwed. The entertaining its beyond the maths and statistics, you can get fun running test, plotting maps, reading data about the game, but the show its different...

You need take some air men, u need go to a bar with friends, get a girl and watch a soccer final, and make the difference between play a soccer simulation in your PS3 alone in your home.



You need to shut up as your whole analysis involves no facts, just stupid useless fluff.


And you're bm and dont have respect. My "useless fluff" its just another opinion. Facts are not only maths, youre not a fucking robot.

And opinions unsubstantiated by facts are worthless. Feel free to say what you think. But unless you say why you think it then it's just useless fluff. You have to back it up.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
boredcouch
Profile Joined May 2008
United States110 Posts
January 25 2010 19:55 GMT
#466
"You need take some air men, u need go to a bar with friends, get a girl and watch a soccer final, and make the difference between play a soccer simulation in your PS3 alone in your home."

Calling me BM? You need to get some real facts to counter the arguments. Whenever anyone brings this up, all I hear fromt he Flash fanboys is:

*cricket* *cricket*

Instead of making crap up and prolonging a discussion that has been beaten to death, bring something new to the table.
starcraft is the greatest game ever
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 25 2010 19:58 GMT
#467
Who cares really. We can't do anything. Just get over it people even tho it sucks.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
January 25 2010 20:05 GMT
#468
On January 26 2010 03:30 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 02:04 Tien wrote:
Is that unfair? Sure as hell it's unfair for Flash. But does it matter? No it does not matter, the rules are the rules.


There's nothing more to argue.


Case closed.


I hate to say, but that is quite an obnoxious comment with respect to Flash. For starters, Flash is potentially giving up his later career aspirations (ie. University) to pursue his current profession. The time he spends training towards Starcraft could possibly be used for his studies and future career. For all we know, professional esports could possibly fade away if people lose interest in Starcraft and Starcraft 2 does not resurrect the professional esports scene. There is no guarantee he will be able to make a living off of Starcraft in 5 years time.

Thus, if he is sacrificing his career, and his family is allowing him to sacrifice his career, then it all due respect, rulings like this from KESPA need to be made as fair as possible as money is on the line - money that feeds Flash, and money that feeds his family.

Do you know why his dad was so angry? His dad knew perfectly well that they lost tens of thousands of dollar on that one ruling - and that was money that the family could use. Add on top that top players like Boxer and July could only stay on top for a few years in their prime, and it hurts that much more if they cannot make as much money as they can while they are in their prime.

We're not talking about filthy rich Major League Baseball players here that make millions and could probably lose a couple of million here or there. We're talking about esport athletes that already earn less than University graduates and even a good professional Starcraft player may not earn enough financially to help his family.



I agree with you. It's unfair. I also agree these progamers are sacrificing their youths for this dream.


But every progamer is doing this. Flash won OSL, Flash has a great salary. You can't single out the sacrifices that every single progamer makes and than justify a re-game on that basis.


If you want to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the hundreds of other progamers that practice just as much and accomplish nothing.
We decide our own destiny
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 25 2010 20:18 GMT
#469
On January 26 2010 04:40 Weryeery wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 02:04 Tien wrote:
Is that unfair? Sure as hell it's unfair for Flash. But does it matter? No it does not matter, the rules are the rules.


There's nothing more to argue.


Case closed.


The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.


Bingo.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
January 26 2010 04:27 GMT
#470
On January 26 2010 04:40 Weryeery wrote:

The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.


On January 23 2010 21:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory.


Second quote is from the LR thread, but I feel like more people should see these.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 26 2010 04:32 GMT
#471
On January 26 2010 13:27 ohN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 04:40 Weryeery wrote:

The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.


Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 21:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory.


Second quote is from the LR thread, but I feel like more people should see these.


No. Everyone was robbed (Flash, Jaedong and all the spectators). That's the thing. Everyone lost. Please take off Jaedong glasses.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 26 2010 04:58 GMT
#472
On January 26 2010 13:32 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 13:27 ohN wrote:
On January 26 2010 04:40 Weryeery wrote:

The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.


On January 23 2010 21:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory.


Second quote is from the LR thread, but I feel like more people should see these.


No. Everyone was robbed (Flash, Jaedong and all the spectators). That's the thing. Everyone lost. Please take off Jaedong glasses.
But Jaedong lost the most. A lot of people don't understand that.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
January 26 2010 05:05 GMT
#473
It really doesn't matter.


Everyone loss. Saying who loss more is just irrelevant.
We decide our own destiny
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 26 2010 05:14 GMT
#474
Sad to see ppl still discussing about Jaedong's performance or Flash's chances of not losing that match...MOVE ON PPL
Decisions were already taken.
Not sure whats behind all this last MSL thing tho
anyways...ITS DONE
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 26 2010 05:34 GMT
#475
On January 26 2010 13:58 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 13:32 Lebesgue wrote:
On January 26 2010 13:27 ohN wrote:
On January 26 2010 04:40 Weryeery wrote:

The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.


On January 23 2010 21:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory.


Second quote is from the LR thread, but I feel like more people should see these.


No. Everyone was robbed (Flash, Jaedong and all the spectators). That's the thing. Everyone lost. Please take off Jaedong glasses.
But Jaedong lost the most. A lot of people don't understand that.


lol jaedong definitely did not get the shitty end of the stick here
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 26 2010 05:40 GMT
#476
tbh I don't think Jaedong gives a damn what the flash fanboys think thinking he got a "free" (free my ass he was going to win anyway and was an incredible game as it was) and how they say he "doesn't" deserve it. So you guys can argue over this all you want but jaedong deserves it and thus he received.

For the post saying about flash who could be using his time for school will Jaedong could be doing the same thing along with every other progamer out there, that was a horrible argument/comment.
When I think of something else, something will go here
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 05:43:23
January 26 2010 05:41 GMT
#477
Well Steve, to a certain degree I guess he did.
You know JD's mindset, he wants to destroy everyone and he wants to do so fair and square, however looking at JD's face after game 4 concluded it KINDA looked like JD was not really satisfied with what happened there.
Of course, he did definitely not get the shittier end, but it might just have felt shitty for him as well!
Edit: Ofc your post in the relevance was kinda true since HE said JD got the worst of it, but yea we both know he was wrong - and you were only to like 95% right? :D

Hello over there btw fellow YBS fan!
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 05:46:35
January 26 2010 05:45 GMT
#478
On January 26 2010 14:34 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 13:58 Zozma wrote:
On January 26 2010 13:32 Lebesgue wrote:
On January 26 2010 13:27 ohN wrote:
On January 26 2010 04:40 Weryeery wrote:

The only unfair thing in all this story is that Jaedong manage to convincingly beat the best TvZ player ever on a T favored mappool and will never get all the credits he deserve for this just because of that stupid power outage incident.


On January 23 2010 21:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
The person really robbed here was Jaedong. To take a win, on heavily favored Terran map, against someone so deadly against Zerg as Flash, that would have been JD's greatest accomplishment, or one of his greatest. The fact that JD couldn't get Flash to type gg - that is just extremely dis-satisfactory.


Second quote is from the LR thread, but I feel like more people should see these.


No. Everyone was robbed (Flash, Jaedong and all the spectators). That's the thing. Everyone lost. Please take off Jaedong glasses.
But Jaedong lost the most. A lot of people don't understand that.


lol jaedong definitely did not get the shitty end of the stick here


Damn right he got the money and the title lol, was ahead but it wasn't over so i think he did prety good out of this.
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 05:48:22
January 26 2010 05:48 GMT
#479
On January 26 2010 14:41 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Well Steve, to a certain degree I guess he did.
You know JD's mindset, he wants to destroy everyone and he wants to do so fair and square, however looking at JD's face after game 4 concluded it KINDA looked like JD was not really satisfied with what happened there.

He was the same way after game 5 vs Bisu on Andromeda too.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
January 26 2010 05:53 GMT
#480
But that's more because Jaedong doesn't respect his own skills (mental stability) quite enough to be content with winning just because of that.
He even wants his opponents to play their best, cause else defeating them has no bigger meaning to them.
And that's what makes a true baller out of JD!
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