The answer should be pretty clear...

Outsider
Outsider SE

Heartbreak Ridge
New Heartbreak Ridge

See a pattern? Huge numbers of ZvZs. ZvZ is bad for ratings (especially after the horrible OSL/MSL ZvZs last season), but they happen so often because most teams send out double-Zergs (instead of double-Terran or double-Protoss).

Basically they're trying to kill Swarm Season before it kills Starcraft.

I wish they'd get rid of Moon Glaive too, though.

Cedstick

Canada3336 Posts

January 19 2010 22:34 GMT

#102

How the fuck can you get rid of HBR? Revolt!

Shield

Bulgaria4824 Posts

January 19 2010 22:37 GMT

#103

Those maps aren't really new. They were released before.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

January 19 2010 23:11 GMT

#104

Bring back Peaks of Baedu!

Nal_rAwr

United States2611 Posts

January 19 2010 23:18 GMT

#105

On January 20 2010 07:37 slimshady wrote:
Those maps aren't really new. They were released before.

Yes, they have been released before

I have actually been playing on these two since a few months ago

RoieTRS

United States2569 Posts

January 19 2010 23:22 GMT

#106

sair/reaver looks like ezmode on judgement day just like on andromeda. Just you gotta wall off the "islands" with forge+cannons.

sair/reaver -> sair/carrier looks even better on jud than andro.

DonBotwin

Canada15 Posts

January 20 2010 02:16 GMT

#107

well they got rid of my least favorite map outsider (fu recall) and put in an andromeda and a wierd map that's going to be nigh impossible to hold a 4th gas. Oh well change is good.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 20 2010 05:10 GMT

#108

I think that both these maps are intended to get rid of all the TvT's on moon glaive. Hard to justify sending your 1 good terran out for that map when you could send him out on either of these new maps.

Catch]22

Sweden2683 Posts

January 20 2010 15:45 GMT

#109

Which is the newest Judgement day, the one without the temporary blocked natural, or the one without (the one without is the one on Hoons picture).

Also, where can I download it?

wswordsmen

United States987 Posts

January 20 2010 15:49 GMT

#110

On January 21 2010 00:45 Catch]22 wrote:
Which is the newest Judgement day, the one without the temporary blocked natural, or the one without (the one without is the one on Hoons picture).

Also, where can I download it?

The newest one is in the OP.

Catch]22

Sweden2683 Posts

January 20 2010 16:02 GMT

#111

Ok, thanks, so where can I download it? Want to get a feel for the map rather than just discussing it.

Vlanitak

Norway3045 Posts

January 20 2010 17:55 GMT

#112

hm... both look interesting, but will they be able to take over for the ones replaced? time will tell... time will tell

LordWeird

United States3411 Posts

January 20 2010 18:45 GMT

#113

On January 21 2010 01:02 Catch]22 wrote:
Ok, thanks, so where can I download it? Want to get a feel for the map rather than just discussing it.

I too really want to try it out ;_;

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

January 20 2010 19:20 GMT

#114

On January 20 2010 07:31 Hinanawi wrote:
The answer should be pretty clear...

Outsider
Outsider SE

Heartbreak Ridge
New Heartbreak Ridge

See a pattern? Huge numbers of ZvZs. ZvZ is bad for ratings (especially after the horrible OSL/MSL ZvZs last season), but they happen so often because most teams send out double-Zergs (instead of double-Terran or double-Protoss).

Basically they're trying to kill Swarm Season before it kills Starcraft.

I wish they'd get rid of Moon Glaive too, though.

I think Zergs have been less common on these maps lately... maybe cuz I tend to watch Khan. There have been a lot of PvPs on Outsider and ZvTs/PvTs on NHBR.

SubtleArt

2710 Posts

January 20 2010 19:47 GMT

#115

Old outsider was 44% TvZ and 58% PvZ...it really wasnt that balanced (double gas always favors the race that gets more expos). It did make for a ton of exciting and unique games though. HBR PvZ is exciting but nothing else is so oh well.

Zozma

United States1626 Posts

January 20 2010 20:45 GMT

#116

I think Judgement Day will have some positional imbalance for ZvT and ZvP...

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

January 20 2010 20:47 GMT

#117

On January 21 2010 05:45 Zozma wrote:
I think Judgement Day will have some positional imbalance for ZvT and ZvP...

Yeah, I guess Kespa and I are both too lazy for rotational balance.

Shatter

United States1401 Posts

January 20 2010 20:51 GMT

#118

Roadrunner looks good, reminds me of Destination. Judgement Day I don't really like. Sad to see HBR go.

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

January 20 2010 21:07 GMT

#119

personally, i love both Andromeda and Guillotine. therefore, Judgment Day for me seems amazing.

Roadrunner appears to be a bastard child of Destination and Fighting Spirit