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[Vid] EVER OSL '09 Final Hype - Page 3

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khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
January 13 2010 04:23 GMT
#41
On January 13 2010 12:04 canucks12 wrote:
Haha The Killers - awesome band. Was this korean made or did you make it? If it is korean, I am happy that they appreciate such a good band


That was produced by OnGameNet--so yeah, it's Korean.
iMarshall
Profile Joined July 2008
Norway190 Posts
January 13 2010 04:26 GMT
#42
Great video, thanks!
LibertyTerran
Profile Joined July 2004
Vietnam711 Posts
January 13 2010 06:16 GMT
#43
Awesome vid bringing back lots of memories. x10 the effect with the subs added in, welldone!
if it aint broke, dont fix it
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 13 2010 06:24 GMT
#44
See how all the previous Ever OSL winners were not the favourites to win. Boxer was expected to beat Oov (and win golden mouse), not too sure about July but I'm guessing noone saw his muta micro coming, Jaedong was an underdog against Stork and Best was expected to go macro mode on July and crush him. Pattern?
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 13 2010 06:36 GMT
#45
Go Movie, be the miracle!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 13 2010 06:44 GMT
#46
MOVIE MOVIE

and omg i heard "When You Were Young" AND "All These Things That I've Done" by the Killers, awesome songs
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0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
January 13 2010 06:55 GMT
#47
wow.. nice video :D
Go FLash!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 13 2010 06:59 GMT
#48
man is it me or was every one of those songs in rock band or one of the guitar heros?

ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
January 13 2010 07:23 GMT
#49
On January 13 2010 15:59 Kyuukyuu wrote:
man is it me or was every one of those songs in rock band or one of the guitar heros?



Surprise! OSL finals is going to be played with rock band! :'(
Wake up Mr. B!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 13 2010 08:08 GMT
#50
On January 13 2010 07:15 Tom Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 06:43 PH wrote:
On January 13 2010 05:45 Tom Phoenix wrote:
On January 13 2010 04:04 niteReloaded wrote:
The only reason Movie might win is bcoz of the slight imba all terrans have to deal with when TvPing.

TvP is not Flash's worst MU for no reason.


That is a poor excuse, considering Flash once dominated in TvP and also beat a really good PvT player to achieve his first StarLeague title. It is more likely that his TvP is not as good as before simply beacuse he has been more focusing on TvZ/TvT.

It is more likely, but not true. Flash has been working to revamp his TvP play for months. Excuses like that, that players are simply focusing on the other matchups, to explain away their weakest one never works.



The "imbalance" excuse works even less, primarily since preety much all TvP balance arguments do not apply at such high levels of gaming. A D level Terran can make the excuse that TvP is hard....Flash does not have the same luxury, especially considering his stellar TvP track record in the past.

At least the "primarily focused on TvZ/TvT" argument is supported by the fact that last year was overall not very good for Protoss and that Zerg have mostly been dominating the scene. So it is not a stretch of imagination to think that TvZ was a much bigger priority then TvP.

I don't like the balance argument either. I said explicitly in my previous post that I consider what you said more plausible (that he was focused on the other matchups). However, I highly doubt that's true either.
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ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
January 13 2010 10:35 GMT
#51
Nuke made a pretty epic hype vid:
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 13 2010 11:44 GMT
#52
On January 13 2010 11:57 dukethegold wrote:
I am a very very sad puppy that I can not see this live.

I have to keep myself unspoiled somehow and watch all of them in marathon fashion after I get back home.



I think it will happen the same to me! My fiance is with me and i can't believe she will let me watch those games lives!!

I'm already seeing a huge post on the entrance of team liquid spoiling the winner as soon as i log in. I hope it never happens! hahah
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 13 2010 14:17 GMT
#53
I buy the (commercially-driven) hype. The past EVER OSL's WERE amazing - and we have a good matchup for the coming finals - Flash vs Movie - the first that I've been excited to see in awhile.

I hope the games pay off, and Movie doesn't simply get dismantled by Flash.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
January 13 2010 14:33 GMT
#54
Anyone got the songs used?
POGGERS
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 14:43:15
January 13 2010 14:40 GMT
#55
On January 13 2010 03:49 Tom Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 02:37 SuperArc wrote:
Omg looking at the epic winners of EVER OSLs Flash is destined to win it.

Poor Movie.


And why wouldn`t a victory by Movie be epic? On the contrary, it would be made all the more epic by the fact that it would be a victory over an opponent that is currently considered practically unbeatable. It would be akin to (P)GARIMTO`s victory over (T)BoxeR in the SKY OSL, when Boxer had just won two consecutive StarLeagues and looked unstoppable (although, to be fair, GARIMTO had won a StarLeague himself and was the best man for the job at the time). Also, it would fit with the theme of this OSL, since this StarLeague was filled with upsets.

Movie finds himself in a similar situation Jaedong did in the EVER 2007 finals, facing an established opponent at the top of his form in his weakest matchup. While he is a good player, he will have to do the same thing to his PvT that Jaedong did to his ZvP....learn it right in front of our eyes.

Overall, I will be rooting for Movie. Not just beacuse he is a prospective player, the underdog in this final and a Protoss, but also beacuse it would be priceless to see the reaction of StarCraft fans if he toppled all the expectations of a Flash victory.


Yup TvP is Flash's 'weakest' matchup despite dominating BeST who has one of the best PvT in BW and recently defeating Stork who also excels in PvT.

Lets not forget Flash's TvP was considered the best in SC, his Bacchus 2008 OSL run in 2008 is proof of that. Lets face it, Flash doesn't have a weakness against any three races. Also the 2007 EVER OSL is a bad comparison because Stork was known to have terrible PvZ at that time.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
January 13 2010 14:42 GMT
#56
On January 13 2010 23:40 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 03:49 Tom Phoenix wrote:
On January 13 2010 02:37 SuperArc wrote:
Omg looking at the epic winners of EVER OSLs Flash is destined to win it.

Poor Movie.


And why wouldn`t a victory by Movie be epic? On the contrary, it would be made all the more epic by the fact that it would be a victory over an opponent that is currently considered practically unbeatable. It would be akin to (P)GARIMTO`s victory over (T)BoxeR in the SKY OSL, when Boxer had just won two consecutive StarLeagues and looked unstoppable (although, to be fair, GARIMTO had won a StarLeague himself and was the best man for the job at the time). Also, it would fit with the theme of this OSL, since this StarLeague was filled with upsets.

Movie finds himself in a similar situation Jaedong did in the EVER 2007 finals, facing an established opponent at the top of his form in his weakest matchup. While he is a good player, he will have to do the same thing to his PvT that Jaedong did to his ZvP....learn it right in front of our eyes.

Overall, I will be rooting for Movie. Not just beacuse he is a prospective player, the underdog in this final and a Protoss, but also beacuse it would be priceless to see the reaction of StarCraft fans if he toppled all the expectations of a Flash victory.


Yup TvP is Flash's 'weakest' matchup despite dominating BeST who has one of the best PvT in bw and recently defeating Stork who also has great PvT.

Lets not forget Flash's TvP was considered the best in SC, his Bacchuus 2008 is proof of that. Lets face it, Flash doesn't have a weakness in any three matchups.

Pretty sure everyone knows what you just said. But if you really had to pick one out to call it his weakest matchup, it'll be his TvP, both statistically and in actuality when you compare his TvP games to his games involving other match ups.
POGGERS
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 13 2010 14:45 GMT
#57
On January 13 2010 23:42 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 23:40 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 13 2010 03:49 Tom Phoenix wrote:
On January 13 2010 02:37 SuperArc wrote:
Omg looking at the epic winners of EVER OSLs Flash is destined to win it.

Poor Movie.


And why wouldn`t a victory by Movie be epic? On the contrary, it would be made all the more epic by the fact that it would be a victory over an opponent that is currently considered practically unbeatable. It would be akin to (P)GARIMTO`s victory over (T)BoxeR in the SKY OSL, when Boxer had just won two consecutive StarLeagues and looked unstoppable (although, to be fair, GARIMTO had won a StarLeague himself and was the best man for the job at the time). Also, it would fit with the theme of this OSL, since this StarLeague was filled with upsets.

Movie finds himself in a similar situation Jaedong did in the EVER 2007 finals, facing an established opponent at the top of his form in his weakest matchup. While he is a good player, he will have to do the same thing to his PvT that Jaedong did to his ZvP....learn it right in front of our eyes.

Overall, I will be rooting for Movie. Not just beacuse he is a prospective player, the underdog in this final and a Protoss, but also beacuse it would be priceless to see the reaction of StarCraft fans if he toppled all the expectations of a Flash victory.


Yup TvP is Flash's 'weakest' matchup despite dominating BeST who has one of the best PvT in bw and recently defeating Stork who also has great PvT.

Lets not forget Flash's TvP was considered the best in SC, his Bacchuus 2008 is proof of that. Lets face it, Flash doesn't have a weakness in any three matchups.

Pretty sure everyone knows what you just said. But if you really had to pick one out to call it his weakest matchup, it'll be his TvP, both statistically and in actuality when you compare his TvP games to his games involving other match ups.


Flash's TvZ was his weakest statistically until this season when he's been playing zergs nonstop. TvZ imo was always Flash's weakest MU and sometimes his TvT doesn't look unstoppable either.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
January 13 2010 14:54 GMT
#58
On January 13 2010 23:40 FireGuyX wrote:
Yup TvP is Flash's 'weakest' matchup despite dominating BeST who has one of the best PvT in BW and recently defeating Stork who also excels in PvT.

BeSt was one of the best PvT. Now he is still in long slump and appearance in MSL Ro8 is fluke.
Stork played in a relaxed manner and was pushed by Flash using map imba (Tornado cliff). That wasn't skill game. Also Flash is training like crazy for 2 SLs and Stork is relaxing playing only on proleague.
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 18:12:03
January 13 2010 18:08 GMT
#59
On January 13 2010 23:40 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 03:49 Tom Phoenix wrote:
On January 13 2010 02:37 SuperArc wrote:
Omg looking at the epic winners of EVER OSLs Flash is destined to win it.

Poor Movie.


And why wouldn`t a victory by Movie be epic? On the contrary, it would be made all the more epic by the fact that it would be a victory over an opponent that is currently considered practically unbeatable. It would be akin to (P)GARIMTO`s victory over (T)BoxeR in the SKY OSL, when Boxer had just won two consecutive StarLeagues and looked unstoppable (although, to be fair, GARIMTO had won a StarLeague himself and was the best man for the job at the time). Also, it would fit with the theme of this OSL, since this StarLeague was filled with upsets.

Movie finds himself in a similar situation Jaedong did in the EVER 2007 finals, facing an established opponent at the top of his form in his weakest matchup. While he is a good player, he will have to do the same thing to his PvT that Jaedong did to his ZvP....learn it right in front of our eyes.

Overall, I will be rooting for Movie. Not just beacuse he is a prospective player, the underdog in this final and a Protoss, but also beacuse it would be priceless to see the reaction of StarCraft fans if he toppled all the expectations of a Flash victory.


Yup TvP is Flash's 'weakest' matchup despite dominating BeST who has one of the best PvT in BW and recently defeating Stork who also excels in PvT.

Lets not forget Flash's TvP was considered the best in SC, his Bacchus 2008 OSL run in 2008 is proof of that. Lets face it, Flash doesn't have a weakness against any three races. Also the 2007 EVER OSL is a bad comparison because Stork was known to have terrible PvZ at that time.


....Did you read what you just quoted? I said that Movie is facing a tough opponent in his (Movie`s) worst matchup. The comparison comes from the fact that Jaedong`s ZvP was not very good prior to the EVER 2007 finals (it was his worst matchup at the time), since he lost to the likes of (P)Rock.

That is why I said Movie will have to do with his PvT what Jaedong did with his ZvP in order to win....learn it right in front of our eyes.

EDIT: Basically, I was talking about Movie, not Flash.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
January 13 2010 21:19 GMT
#60
On January 13 2010 23:42 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 23:40 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 13 2010 03:49 Tom Phoenix wrote:
On January 13 2010 02:37 SuperArc wrote:
Omg looking at the epic winners of EVER OSLs Flash is destined to win it.

Poor Movie.


And why wouldn`t a victory by Movie be epic? On the contrary, it would be made all the more epic by the fact that it would be a victory over an opponent that is currently considered practically unbeatable. It would be akin to (P)GARIMTO`s victory over (T)BoxeR in the SKY OSL, when Boxer had just won two consecutive StarLeagues and looked unstoppable (although, to be fair, GARIMTO had won a StarLeague himself and was the best man for the job at the time). Also, it would fit with the theme of this OSL, since this StarLeague was filled with upsets.

Movie finds himself in a similar situation Jaedong did in the EVER 2007 finals, facing an established opponent at the top of his form in his weakest matchup. While he is a good player, he will have to do the same thing to his PvT that Jaedong did to his ZvP....learn it right in front of our eyes.

Overall, I will be rooting for Movie. Not just beacuse he is a prospective player, the underdog in this final and a Protoss, but also beacuse it would be priceless to see the reaction of StarCraft fans if he toppled all the expectations of a Flash victory.


Yup TvP is Flash's 'weakest' matchup despite dominating BeST who has one of the best PvT in bw and recently defeating Stork who also has great PvT.

Lets not forget Flash's TvP was considered the best in SC, his Bacchuus 2008 is proof of that. Lets face it, Flash doesn't have a weakness in any three matchups.

Pretty sure everyone knows what you just said. But if you really had to pick one out to call it his weakest matchup, it'll be his TvP, both statistically and in actuality when you compare his TvP games to his games involving other match ups.


I think its less of that its Flash's lesser match up, but more that its his opponents better match up.
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