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Because it was eventually going to happen
2009 was a dark year for the Protoss. The dragons fell, the revolutionist was shamed, and the swarm was looking more powerful than ever. While the Terrans hid behind their little monster, the Protoss had nowhere to hide.
Slowly, they watched their worlds fall into the hands of the both the Empire of Man and the Legions of the Swarm alike. The throne on which the 6 Dragons reigned supreme was gone, with only the Dinosaurs of old standing guard, and even it could not wether the oncoming Typhoon.
The year ended on a bleak note for Aiur, but with the new year came new hope. New powerhouses had begun to emerge from the ranks. The dragons have slowly started to rally back. The glory of yesteryear could be restored.
A Solid Foundation Violet
Sea? hah, more like sea you later
In the absence of their handsome heroes, KT could only rely on their Terran to get the job done, that is, until Violet came along. Rebuilding from where the kings once ruled, Violet has paved the way for the KT Protoss to become the force the once were. A solid player all around, Violet will be instrumental in the Protoss revival, both as a force on the battlefield and as a mentor to the new KT prospect, Stats. Behind his leadership, KT's Protoss have matched the great Dragons of SKT and Samsung Khan, and are steadily improving.
CJ ain't just for zergs
CJ Entus was never known for their Protoss lineup. Outside of a pylon heart, their residents of Aiur have made very little in the individual leagues. Movie is looking to change all of that. Only the second CJ Protoss to reach the finals of a starleague, Movie easily handled the typhoon that had been terrorizing Aiur. Movie and his Iron Reavers are the only thing standing between the little terran monster and an OSL title.
Kwanro's got nothin on this
Though he fell out of the individual leagues, his dismantlement of the Terran's Ultimate Weapon has shown that he has not lost his touch. Having ended his silver mining streak, Song Byung Goo has proven that he is always a threat to everyone, from the best in the world to a cuddly little Pikachu, he is one of the last remaining Dragons that actually lives up to the title. The Dinotoss has yet to peak, the rest of the world beware.
and finally, the unsung hero, the silent, deadly, destructive force that crept under the radar. The Rising Dragon GodzillaKal
the REAL ace of STX
Once known as one of the weaker of the 6 major Protosse, when the other Dragons slumped, he improved. When his team needed an ace, he stepped up. And when the new year came in, he greeted it with a team kill and a smile. Kal, once known for his amazing pvz, has evened out to an all around beast. Famous for terrorizing his opponents with his near-death shuttles, he now steers the dying Protoss back to the glory of old. Soon to be facing off with the Tyrant himself, he stands as one of the last great bastions of Protoss power.
Kim Ku Hyun will take Victory after Victory
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ok cool ill copy and paste
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On January 11 2010 14:53 Mainline wrote:
kals is super super amazing and he will be the next best protoss
Sorry, had to fix your post a little to make it more fitting ^^
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shouldve put flying in 
nice read =D
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flying hasn't done anything to write about yet
him and stats are both going to be great, but aren't there yet
and yeah, I wanted to put in like 8 different people, but the other threads only did 4, so i stuck to that
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On January 11 2010 14:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
This is more like it. yes!
kal fighting!
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On January 11 2010 14:55 icystorage wrote:shouldve put flying in nice read =D
I agree that Flying will be one of the next greatest of Protoss.
Or he will be the next Lucifer. Time will tell.
The exclusion of Bisu is NOT justified if Violet has been included. Violet qualified for neither leagues. Bisu drilled further in the two leagues than Violet did, albeit slightly. The reason why we are impressed with him is because his performance surpassed our expectation, while Bisu, on the other hand, failed our expectation. Nonetheless, when it comes to actual performance, skill level, etc, Violet has no upper hand over Bisu. Bisu is still regarded as the #1 Toss. #1 Toss on Kespa, and ELO. His performance in round 1 of proleague is still up there. I feel that he should have been included on this list.
On January 11 2010 14:57 ItsBigfoot wrote:
and yeah, I wanted to put in like 8 different people, but the other threads only did 4, so i stuck to that
The reason why the Terran one is 4 is due to obvious illogical inexplicable vulture hating team discriminating bias. We Protoss are better than that.
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Flying is really good because he makes very few mistakes and does all these little tricks that only A-class or above players usually do. However, I feel that he's still in limbo between the A-class players and the others. He has no glaring holes, but he's going to need that "magic".
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bisu got his mention
it's just cooler with the whole "fallen hero" thing that the other two threads have, so I wrote in bisu as the fallen hero, since he's the closest thing protoss has to that. he was their maestro, or emporer. so, like boxer and savior, he got mentioned but did not get his own profile
The reason why the Terran one is 4 is due to obvious illogical inexplicable vulture hating team discriminating bias. We Protoss are better than that.
yeah, but the zergs followed suit with 4, so it kinda became the rule
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Because Bisu is so last season. Or last year. =p
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Where is Flying?
Good calls on Movie and Kal though :D
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great read.
although bisu didn't make it that far in the individual leagues, he still pulls his weight in proleague
edit: i think bisu has the 2nd highest win % in proleague, with flash being 1st
jangbi isn't doing that bad either but his results in round 1 was abysmal so i understand why he isn't included in the article
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Hahaha this is more like it
Damn straight Movie will win the OSL!
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On January 11 2010 15:04 ItsBigfoot wrote:bisu got his mention it's just cooler with the whole "fallen hero" thing that the other two threads have, so I wrote in bisu as the fallen hero, since he's the closest thing protoss has to that. he was their maestro, or emporer. so, like boxer and savior, he got mentioned but did not get his own profile Show nested quote +The reason why the Terran one is 4 is due to obvious illogical inexplicable vulture hating team discriminating bias. We Protoss are better than that. yeah, but the zergs followed suit with 4, so it kinda became the rule
If I was the one who wrote it, I would have portrayed the Protoss race as the tragic race without a messiah, caught in the midst of whirl of the malevolent swarm and the fervor of warmongering Terran. But, I am a SKT fan and I would have included Bisu one way or another. So have it your way.
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Wow this is awesome.
I love Kal and Stork even though I'm not the biggest protoss fan. They're just so god damn awesome~
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haha NO MORE BISU.
Taken from Movie interview
On January 08 2010 23:12 konadora wrote:
- The maps for the finals have been decided. Are you happy with the outcome?
▲ Rather than blaming the maps, the results will be different depending on how well I prepare.
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the only thing about bisu is, yes, technically he could be in, but so could jangbi/best/pure/flying/some others, so it's best to cut it off at 4, or else I'd have backho fans telling me he should be included as well***
*** if backho fans actually exist
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On January 11 2010 15:22 ItsBigfoot wrote:
the only thing about bisu is, yes, technically he could be in, but so could jangbi/best/pure/flying/some others, so it's best to cut it off at 4, or else I'd have backho fans telling me he should be included as well***
*** if backho fans actually exist
There are a lot of Backho anti-fans though. I am sure that we can triple the responses by including him.
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Meh, bisu=zeratul, he will emerge from darkness once more and wreak havoc upon the trolls...and other races.
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haha this is much better than the other protoss post. it's just unfortunate that kal is going to get dismantled 
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we'll see tonight, they have a proleague match in 3 hours
Kal is playing the best startcraft of his career (solid in every matchup across the board, within 20 points of his pvz elo peak and at his peak in everything else), I wouldn't put it past him to win the whole MSL. he used to have 70% vZ for a reason (only 60% now but he's showing his old form)
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On January 11 2010 14:53 Mainline wrote:
kals gay
yea..hes so smug after beating a slumping sAviOr..
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On January 11 2010 15:22 ItsBigfoot wrote:
the only thing about bisu is, yes, technically he could be in, but so could jangbi/best/pure/flying/some others, so it's best to cut it off at 4, or else I'd have backho fans telling me he should be included as well***
*** if backho fans actually exist
Isnt nevergg a backho fan? I'm pretty sure shes the only reason he's on my list of players to do stat breakdowns on, she asked specifically for him last year.
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I always figured they were myths, something to joke about at OSL parties
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Why Kal!? hell eventually fall to the hands of the overmind. Movie is the true hero
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On January 11 2010 15:34 ItsBigfoot wrote:
we'll see tonight, they have a proleague match in 3 hours
Kal is playing the best startcraft of his career (solid in every matchup across the board, within 20 points of his pvz elo peak and at his peak in everything else), I wouldn't put it past him to win the whole MSL. he used to have 70% vZ for a reason (only 60% now but he's showing his old form)
Hes been chomping on pretty much weaker zergs in terms of their ability to zvp, let see how he does vs jaedong tonight. I mean the best 2 zergs he played recently he lost to, which were hogil and kwanro I believe. Anywho despite that his play has picked up, but I wouldnt call it the best in his career in terms of results, just yet at least.
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On January 11 2010 15:57 Kenpachi wrote:
Why Kal!? hell eventually fall to the hands of the overmind. Movie is the true hero
On January 11 2010 15:34 ItsBigfoot wrote:
Kal is playing the best startcraft of his career (solid in every matchup across the board, within 20 points of his pvz elo peak and at his peak in everything else), I wouldn't put it past him to win the whole MSL. he used to have 70% vZ for a reason (only 60% now but he's showing his old form)
basically, Kal's been around longer, and is on a bigger hot streak (movie's only 5-5 in his last 10). also, "The Rising Dragon, Godzilla" sounded waaay cooler then whatever movie pun I would have put if movie got the lead spot
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I like it how the TL writers start hating on Bisu...
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It's weird right now because Bisu is probably still the best protoss, but he sucked early and got knocked out of both individual leagues. Also we don't really get to see him matched up against the top players in proleague. So it's hard to say anything good about him when he's not even in the running to compete with the best.
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seems like Kal is overhyped here
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On January 11 2010 16:18 LunarDestiny wrote:
I like it how the TL writers start hating on Bisu...
It's not really that, it's just that praising bisu got kinda old, I mean, he's the revolutionist, we've heard it all before. sure, the same can be said about flash and jaedong, but even bisu admits that he's not on par with them anymore (read his most recent interview). what he's done is great, and it's gotten him his deserved praise, but he hasn't really done anything to set him above the other tosses since then
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On January 11 2010 16:33 unionbank wrote:
seems like Kal is overhyped here
Can't be more overhyped than "only-one-good-matchup Movie"
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The fact that you omitted Bisu puts a big banana grin on my face.
Thanks.
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On January 11 2010 15:22 ItsBigfoot wrote:
the only thing about bisu is, yes, technically he could be in, but so could jangbi/best/pure/flying/some others, so it's best to cut it off at 4, or else I'd have backho fans telling me he should be included as well***
*** if backho fans actually exist
I can personally say that Backho fans DO exist.
On the issue of Bisu, I think the thing to remember is that while his single-game performance has been very lackluster, he's still way more likely to take a Bo5 than Jangbi/Best/Pure/Flying, and Violet. Yes, Violet's winning games, but that's because he hasn't been *in* any of the individual leagues. He hasn't played a Bo5, oh I dunno, EVER?
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On January 11 2010 17:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 15:22 ItsBigfoot wrote:
the only thing about bisu is, yes, technically he could be in, but so could jangbi/best/pure/flying/some others, so it's best to cut it off at 4, or else I'd have backho fans telling me he should be included as well***
*** if backho fans actually exist I can personally say that Backho fans DO exist. On the issue of Bisu, I think the thing to remember is that while his single-game performance has been very lackluster, he's still way more likely to take a Bo5 than any of those 4, and Violet. Yes, Violet's winning games, but that's because he hasn't been *in* any of the individual leagues. He hasn't played a Bo5, oh I dunno, EVER?
actually single games are what's keeping bisu in contention, since he's out in both individual leagues, losing to two new guys. They both do well in single games, and Violet's more interesting to write about, since he's new, and the head of the new KT tosses
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On January 11 2010 18:05 ItsBigfoot wrote:
actually single games are what's keeping bisu in contention, since he's out in both individual leagues, losing to two new guys. They both do well in single games, and Violet's more interesting to write about, since he's new, and the head of the new KT tosses
He's out of the MSL because of single games. He's out of the OSL from losing to Shine, who immediately went on to also beat Stork. He hasn't had the *chance* to play set games, but off experience, he's still likely to be the better set player than someone who's never been in a televised set.
I will concede that Violet is more interesting to write about.
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losing to frozean is synonymous with being shamed. lol
kinda needed bisu in there. he's just much better than some of ones listed.
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I can't believe people seriously argue about Bisu not being in that list and can't decide whether op trolls or it's just blind fanboysm and hate.
The zerg and terran threads are quite good, this is just trash 
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On January 11 2010 20:22 ondik wrote:I can't believe people seriously argue about Bisu not being in that list and can't decide whether op trolls or it's just blind fanboysm and hate. The zerg and terran threads are quite good, this is just trash
3 straight people complain about the lack of bisu
they all have SKT as their team logo
and I'm the one that gets called a fanboy somehow (note: if I did the zerg article, you could call my fanboyism, as shine would be in effort's spot)
what would you like me to write about? bisu's lack of matches against top players recently, or how he's still not quite on his A game? another bisu article would be boring, the developing talent is much more interesting.
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....:p bisu? flying?
jangbi..
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Yo, you are missing JangBi.
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On January 11 2010 20:22 ondik wrote:I can't believe people seriously argue about Bisu not being in that list and can't decide whether op trolls or it's just blind fanboysm and hate. The zerg and terran threads are quite good, this is just trash
Bisu isn't on there because he's done jack shit recently. All of these names have done something (you know, like IMPROVED) to show a possible revival of the Protoss race.
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I lost faith to the Protoss players....
...except Movie who has a chance to get the OSL from Flash.
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On January 11 2010 22:08 Nevuk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=539&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=3&from_day=30&to_year=2010&to_month=1&to_day=10&action=Update
this is screwing up format so badly
I have to say though,  Movie may not yet belong here. He's only shown prowness in a single matchup, and the other two are mediocre at best. Violet is ok, but has not shown particular brilliance throughout the season.
as for their competitors:
JangBi - Has still excellent PvP, though it seems he sorely underestimated Stats. His PvZ has shown considerable improvement, or at least his judgement has. His PvT is recently untested, but not looking great considering he lost to  Barracks
BeSt - His PvP is lightyears behind what it once was. Losses to Stork and Violet may be acceptable, but to Shuttle and Pusan? Not so much. His PvT is godly still, losing only to Flash, which is nothing to be ashamed of, as he would be on a gigantic streak otherwise. As for his PvZ, while good enough to beat the likes of  Chavi, Hydra, and even Clam, is not up to "Victory after Victory" standards.
GosI[Flying] - Definitely not S-Class, nor "Victory after Victory" standards. I consider him a very good rookie, and he'll likely bloom in the next round or two, but as of right now he's still just another struggling protoss.
Bisu - Is perhaps the most controversial of all the protoss. But I believe that he definitely belongs here. His PvZ is on a 7 game streak, though with the only notable opponents being RorO, Shine, and hero. Yet this is definitely enough to consider him proficient in the matchup. As for his PvP, He lost to Stork, GuemChi, and SeCret. I will not pretend to know anything about the game between him and SeCret, but I know that the game with Stork is not much to be ashamed about, and that the game with Guemchi, while definitely puts him out of the running for being dominant, does not exclude him from being eligible for this article. Bisu's PvT, however, makes him a little iffy. Because he lost to CuteAngel and Bogus. That's enough to put anyone in doubt. The only dominant victories he's had in this matchup were against Mind and PianO- he wasn't even able to beat TurN convincingly. So while I still believe he belongs in the article, as his performance is above both Violet and Movie's, Bisu should not be ranked above Stork nor Kal.
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Bisu's record over same period of time:
Record: 52 wins - 21 losses (71.23%)
I like the article and I find the latest period of time reflects the names up there. All players are gr8 (including Bisu). All of them except Movie have a win% over 50% in each match-up, But considered that movie shows the way in PvZ (the hard match-up) and is in the OSL finals he somewhat belongs there. Also think Flying and Shuttle is players to watch out for.
And yes, Kal's performance lately has been awesome and he totally deserves the spot he got.
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I haven't been following PL since my FPL sunk faster than the Titanic after I ditched Stork. But when I checked Kal's stats in the PL, I was like WOAH!
I never held Kal in high regard, but he is definitely on fire right now.
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Bisu is finished. I'm still in love with him, but I think it's time for the next generation of tosses.
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lol no bisu. he's the best of them obv.
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Keep dreaming, tossers! (I'm kidding :p Good read! Stork Hwaiting!)
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dude man, no Bisu?
That's low
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Another Bisu-hater, go make babies with the other flawed thread that's circulating
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One thing that I will admit is that Bisu seems to be more susceptible to slump than Jaedong and Flash. Even during Flash's darkest of hours, he was still playing high level game. Jaedong never slumped. While Bisu did indeed slump after he lost to Mind and now again.
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there isn't enough love for Kal. He his soo good and I really liek how he play. He just need to perform a bit better in the osl or msl but hey.. look who is the #4 player in ELO ranking.. yeah yeah, it's Kal :D
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but but but but wheeeres bisu ?
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I'm sorry, but movie played his best mu most of the time to get into the final. Hes gonna get rolled over by flash whose tvp is light years ahead of light.
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No Bisu, BackHo or JangBi? You don't know what are you rattling about.
P.S. Violet plays uber bad as of lately. He started with a high note i'll give you that.
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On January 12 2010 01:55 MuffinDude wrote:
I'm sorry, but movie played his best mu most of the time to get into the final. Hes gonna get rolled over by flash whose tvp is light years ahead of light.
And who did he beat to get there? The guy definitely deserves at least some recognition.
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nice read about movie btw
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I'm not sure you can really call that comparable, given that 1) Violet played in no leagues past the prelims stage, while Bisu was in OSL semifinals, MSL Ro8, and won WCG Korea and 2) Violet played about half the games Bisu did.
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On January 12 2010 00:21 dukethegold wrote:
One thing that I will admit is that Bisu seems to be more susceptible to slump than Jaedong and Flash. Even during Flash's darkest of hours, he was still playing high level game. Jaedong never slumped. While Bisu did indeed slump after he lost to Mind and now again.
Tch. Maybe thats what happens with winning the MSL.
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yay! I was waiting for the Protoss inspirational thread, and although the beginning wasn't too descriptive or inclusive of a neatly detailed 'history lesson' of sorts, still nice to see the Protoss getting theirs!
I still don't think Violet is really on a similar stage as the Dragons or claiming as much success as some of the other up-n-coming Protoss (although theres really only Movie, and the other Dragons that are improving like Stork/Kal). I remember the days of Reach and Nal_rA in KTF, and they said that they tutored the new Protoss's to their own individual styles, like Reach for Violet and Nal_rA for Tempest etc. and I remember almost the 'passing of the torch' for them, when Reach squared off against Violet in a GOM league. Also, giving credit where its due, Violet did play an amazing series against a very tough/popularly successful opponent, Luxury in the GOM S3 RO16.. game 1 on Medusa was straight up incredible!
Movie was justly included, he has been on a hot-streak considering the success of Protoss of late, going from someone who very mediocrely acheived wins to a Protoss that's flown all the way to the finals, awaiting his opponent is something pretty spectacular, for Protoss. I was really shocked and pleased at the result of his series v Shine. Obviously I was rooting and supporting him and hoping that he'd win, but perhaps that the series would end up a bit closer, like 3-2 or something, 3-1, coming out with a 2-0 lead was nice.. I hope he plans and continues with his strategical execution and prepares something very well orchestrated for the ultimate weapon, Flash_KT. Again, I hope movie takes this title down, but even if he loses, and as long as its gg's and not a blow out, like 3-0 then i'll be happy for his results as a Protoss user. I think either way though, him making it to the finals, he's made a name for himself.
Stork and Kal, ya, they're both dragons of old so no reason to discredit them - its just varying results of success to raise one over the other and determines whos performing slightly better. I'm kinda dissapointed that Bisu wasn't included, as the main figure-head of the Protoss race. I know he's slumping as of late, dropping a game or two to some unexpected characters, but still, he's like the God of Protoss, success-wise and accomplishment wise. Breaking ELO records for Protoss, winning 3 titles back-to-back, being in like 4 finals in a row etc.. Bisu's done some incredible things for Protoss that they haven't seen in a long time. Even though he might be on a small slump, the same could have been said for Flash. I remember when Jaedong/Bisu/Flash were the absolute top of their respective races, and Flash started falling a bit, losing to some weird builds, all-ins, rushes or just dropping it for bad execution or his opponent out-doing him.. Now of course, presently, I think he's realized his claim to fame again and started performing excellently, and the same could be said for any top player, like Stork or Bisu.
but ya, I think reasonable representatives of Protoss would be:
Jangbi / Kal
Movie
Stork
Bisu
(in order from fostering success to more successful results into leadership wise [Stork,Bisu])
gL all
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i really liked this thread! good job! ^^
also, there's a reason why bisu and other notable protosses aren't listed on this thread. It's because this thread shows protosses who are currently owning things up. Bisu and those other protsses haven't really been doing as well as these guys, so its not a matter of discrimination or hate.
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I´m wondering what happened to Jangbi?! He was better than Stork in PvP, he was best in PvT and his PvZ was actually pretty darn good.
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On January 12 2010 12:55 sib-pelle wrote:
I´m wondering what happened to Jangbi?! He was better than Stork in PvP, he was best in PvT and his PvZ was actually pretty darn good.
he beat nada and now every1 hates him
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On January 11 2010 20:41 ItsBigfoot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 20:22 ondik wrote:I can't believe people seriously argue about Bisu not being in that list and can't decide whether op trolls or it's just blind fanboysm and hate. The zerg and terran threads are quite good, this is just trash 3 straight people complain about the lack of bisu they all have SKT as their team logo and I'm the one that gets called a fanboy somehow (note: if I did the zerg article, you could call my fanboyism, as shine would be in effort's spot) what would you like me to write about? bisu's lack of matches against top players recently, or how he's still not quite on his A game? another bisu article would be boring, the developing talent is much more interesting.
I apologise for my last sentence, overreacted a bit there. If it's about developing talents then be it, in that case I would not include Kal though. He's been A-class player for long time, I'd say it's more hot streak than getting significantly better, the same could be said about Stork (the difference is he's S-class). Only Violet and Movie (btw I checked their last 20 games and they both have worse results than Bisu with not so much better opponents) should belong there according to this criteria, as well as Flying.
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Well this thread sure is dumb.
+ Show Spoiler +Unless OP honestly believes there are no protosses playing today that can take a game off JD.
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well, it is unlikely for jaedong to lose ZvP BoX's.
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Kim Ku Hyun will take Victory after Victory
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BAHAHAHAHAHA
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What a sad, sad protoss lineup. You guys need some skill!
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