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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
January 01 2010 02:03 GMT
#81
A mirror.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 01 2010 02:06 GMT
#82
On January 01 2010 09:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:10 Zoler wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Keep him home and outmacro him. Easier said than done.
+ Show Spoiler +


Flash's turret didn't start in time.

Stop. Just stop.

Why? Did you even read what Flash and Zero said? LOL, BOTH of them. Not just Flash, BOTH.

Lmao.

Stop. Just stop.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 01 2010 02:16 GMT
#83
Well, guys, apparently nobody can beat Flash. That's it! I guess we can just call Starcraft off and send Flash a few trophies every year.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
January 01 2010 02:17 GMT
#84
On January 01 2010 10:51 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Pick Protoss, spawn cross positions, go 2 base arbiters.

If he has a weakness, this is it. Even recently when he has been untouchable in tvt and tvz his tvp isn't incredibly perfect, just really good.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 01 2010 02:18 GMT
#85
On January 01 2010 11:06 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:10 Zoler wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Keep him home and outmacro him. Easier said than done.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYwPB52F7KY


Flash's turret didn't start in time.

Stop. Just stop.

Why? Did you even read what Flash and Zero said? LOL, BOTH of them. Not just Flash, BOTH.

Lmao.

Stop. Just stop.
Yeaaaaaaah. So Flash is unbeatable if he makes no mistakes, and in fact the only time you can beat him is when he makes mistakes. That tells us alot.

Jaedong only lost to Flash in their second OSL game because his overlord got sniped, guys.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
January 01 2010 02:20 GMT
#86
power overwhelming.
gf.
baseball bat (as someone already mentioned) failing these two.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 01 2010 02:23 GMT
#87
On January 01 2010 10:19 Fzero wrote:
Just because Flash plays in an era where there are another incredible gamers:

Bisu, Jaedong, Stork, etc..

doesn't mean he can't be considered one of the best ever. It's like Tennis. Federer is constantly winning tournaments because there's no one in the field to stop him. He's surely the greatest ever right? Or maybe not.. Nadal shows up.

Just because he has super strong competition doesn't make him any less impressive than savior for instance.


I don't disagree with you, but this is the argument used by legions of Jaedong anti-fans as to why he wasn't at that level during his run of dominance. The rabid anti-fans of this era make it damn near impossible to reach a consensus on a great player.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
January 01 2010 02:27 GMT
#88
With a bat
POGGERS
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
January 01 2010 02:39 GMT
#89
Incontrol would brutally rape that kid with his bare fist, i guess u just beat him up the same way as u would to other high school kid when ur at that age?
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
January 01 2010 02:47 GMT
#90
On January 01 2010 06:54 blade55555 wrote:
God I pray that in MSL Jaedong vs flash Bo5 and flash loses because I don't think Flash will be able to cheese and win unless he wins 2 in a row then on his third cheeses. I honestly don't think Flash can beat Jaedong in a BO5 straight up. Of course if they do end up playing BO5 and Flash wins 3-0 or even wins I will be surprised regardless if he cheeses or not. Flash is good no doubt but I don't think he's "perfect" like you all seem to think ><.


With the map pool for the MSL, Flash could probably 3-0 Jaedong very easily.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 01 2010 02:52 GMT
#91
On January 01 2010 10:51 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Pick Protoss, spawn cross positions, go 2 base arbiters.

this is the most reasonable explanation I've heard so far in this thread.
Seriously, cross position is a MUST against flash in PvT
dats racist
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 01 2010 02:53 GMT
#92
On January 01 2010 11:39 Shizuru~ wrote:
Incontrol would brutally rape that kid with his bare fist, i guess u just beat him up the same way as u would to other high school kid when ur at that age?


Or you are just a normal person who doesn't beat anyone up.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
January 01 2010 02:56 GMT
#93
cant be beat D; but probaly fast carriers
skyhighftw on iccup
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 01 2010 03:09 GMT
#94
Beat Violet, Luxury constantly, and KT will have to abuse Flash again. Then MAYBE, just maybe you'll have a slight chance to knock him off. Other than that, he's Jesus.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 01 2010 03:31 GMT
#95
On January 01 2010 11:56 FlameSworD wrote:
cant be beat D; but probaly fast carriers


Fast carriers vs Flash? THE Flash? Oh god.... oh god............
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 01 2010 03:37 GMT
#96
PvT on Match Point
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 01 2010 03:58 GMT
#97
Improve your all-in
Brood War loyalist
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 01 2010 04:17 GMT
#98
On January 01 2010 12:37 Kenpachi wrote:
PvT on Match Point

Got ur imbalances crossed, there.
Jaedong
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 01 2010 04:28 GMT
#99
On January 01 2010 10:19 Fzero wrote:
Just because Flash plays in an era where there are another incredible gamers:

Bisu, Jaedong, Stork, etc..

doesn't mean he can't be considered one of the best ever. It's like Tennis. Federer is constantly winning tournaments because there's no one in the field to stop him. He's surely the greatest ever right? Or maybe not.. Nadal shows up.

Just because he has super strong competition doesn't make him any less impressive than savior for instance.


He's already one of the best players of all time (and definitely the greatest player ever to only win one league though that will hopefully change soon). He'll probably end up as the greatest Terran ever.

I'm just saying that he's not a bonjwa, which he isn't.

Bonjwa does not mean the best. Bonjwa is one of the weird and rare things that requires a lot of things to happen, many of which are out of a player's control.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
January 01 2010 04:29 GMT
#100
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