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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 01 2010 00:12 GMT
#61
On January 01 2010 08:40 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
secretly steal his ruler and replace it with a defective one. lol


SO WIN! ROFL
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
January 01 2010 00:12 GMT
#62
On January 01 2010 09:10 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Keep him home and outmacro him. Easier said than done.
+ Show Spoiler +


Flash's turret didn't start in time.

Stop. Just stop.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 01 2010 00:13 GMT
#63
On January 01 2010 09:12 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:10 Zoler wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Keep him home and outmacro him. Easier said than done.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYwPB52F7KY


Flash's turret didn't start in time.

Stop. Just stop.


That's why I added the little smiley face, hehe
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
January 01 2010 00:13 GMT
#64
in tvz, you need to guard your ramps with 2~3 lurkers, as flash has limited detection in the mid-game
maybe put some stop lurkers around

also, scout well so you know when to build drones and expand, or when to go for units...

seriously i've seen what the zerg had to be doing in a game vs flash in order to win, and i'm sure he could be beaten someday....
Nony is Bonjwa
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
January 01 2010 00:14 GMT
#65
mind fuck his naive mind.................
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 01 2010 00:14 GMT
#66
On January 01 2010 09:13 Nal_rAwr wrote:
in tvz, you need to guard your ramps with 2~3 lurkers, as flash has limited detection in the mid-game
maybe put some stop lurkers around

also, scout well so you know when to build drones and expand, or when to go for units...

seriously i've seen what the zerg had to be doing in a game vs flash in order to win, and i'm sure he could be beaten someday....


I agree kinda, I thought the zerg who recently played Flash opened very good with 2-3 lurks and then mutas right after. Too bad he failed.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
January 01 2010 00:20 GMT
#67
A single period of dominance is not enough to consider someone a bonjwa. If that were the case, both (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong should have qualified by now.

Besides which, people were saying the same thing about Flash after he won Bacchus and not much came out of that. Let us wait and see if he actually wins another title before we continue this discussion.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 01 2010 00:30 GMT
#68
Jaedong is at a severe disadvantage if he played Flash in a hypothetical MSL finals right now. With the MSL's map pool, he has no chance.
Jaedong
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
January 01 2010 00:31 GMT
#69
On January 01 2010 07:08 Ver wrote:
In other words, how to beat Savior?

Savior will destroy everyone in 2009. It's 2010 now in most of the world, including korea.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
January 01 2010 00:44 GMT
#70
On January 01 2010 09:20 Tom Phoenix wrote:
A single period of dominance is not enough to consider someone a bonjwa. If that were the case, both (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong should have qualified by now.

Besides which, people were saying the same thing about Flash after he won Bacchus and not much came out of that. Let us wait and see if he actually wins another title before we continue this discussion.


Neither Bisu nor Jaedong were ever as dominant as Flash currently is.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 00:49:15
January 01 2010 00:48 GMT
#71
That's actually true. Flash is doing better in PL than Jaedong was, and while last season Jaedong was in a very similar position of being in the OSL semis and MSL ro8 split Bo5, the only, ONLY difference here is that when Jaedong was in both leagues like this, he was DOWN a game vs his MSL opponent (Canata) and Flash, on the other hand, happens to be up a game.

The real question is, how badly can Flash dominate Calm? If he can 3-1 him then he remains ahead of Jaedong in all technicality's sake. If he 3-0's him then he's definitively ahead. And obviously if he beats Best he atleast breaks even (Jaedong won 3-2, though it was a handily won 3-2 with losses only to canata's rushes)

It's funny because their tournaments are similar, too. Jaedong didn't have to play a protoss in OSL round of 8 last season either.
Remember Violet.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 01 2010 00:48 GMT
#72
On January 01 2010 09:44 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:20 Tom Phoenix wrote:
A single period of dominance is not enough to consider someone a bonjwa. If that were the case, both (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong should have qualified by now.

Besides which, people were saying the same thing about Flash after he won Bacchus and not much came out of that. Let us wait and see if he actually wins another title before we continue this discussion.


Neither Bisu nor Jaedong were ever as dominant as Flash currently is.


uhhhh, what? The period of time when Jaedong won his 2nd and 3rd OSLs? Taek-Bang era?

Flash's most recent domination hasn't even lasted a league yet.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 00:51:09
January 01 2010 00:50 GMT
#73
On January 01 2010 09:48 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:44 APurpleCow wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:20 Tom Phoenix wrote:
A single period of dominance is not enough to consider someone a bonjwa. If that were the case, both (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong should have qualified by now.

Besides which, people were saying the same thing about Flash after he won Bacchus and not much came out of that. Let us wait and see if he actually wins another title before we continue this discussion.


Neither Bisu nor Jaedong were ever as dominant as Flash currently is.


uhhhh, what? The period of time when Jaedong won his 2nd and 3rd OSLs? Taek-Bang era?

Flash's most recent domination hasn't even lasted a league yet.


Well you have to take into account the period. Syncing up this season with last season (Jaedong has been most successful this year so that's fair to say), Flash is slightly ahead. He has to CONTINUE to win though to beat Jaedong's crushing wins last season.

Amusingly, the only people with more dominant seasons than Jaedong were the Bonjwas. It'd be cute if Flash crushed that dominance.
Remember Violet.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 01 2010 00:52 GMT
#74
lol at this thread
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Attritive
Profile Joined December 2009
United States68 Posts
January 01 2010 00:54 GMT
#75
On January 01 2010 05:13 lac29 wrote:
So you think the only way Flash will lose this season is if he beats himself or makes mistakes?


Yes.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
January 01 2010 01:05 GMT
#76
On January 01 2010 09:48 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 09:44 APurpleCow wrote:
On January 01 2010 09:20 Tom Phoenix wrote:
A single period of dominance is not enough to consider someone a bonjwa. If that were the case, both (P)Bisu and (Z)Jaedong should have qualified by now.

Besides which, people were saying the same thing about Flash after he won Bacchus and not much came out of that. Let us wait and see if he actually wins another title before we continue this discussion.


Neither Bisu nor Jaedong were ever as dominant as Flash currently is.


uhhhh, what? The period of time when Jaedong won his 2nd and 3rd OSLs? Taek-Bang era?

Flash's most recent domination hasn't even lasted a league yet.


While true that it hasn't been very long, it has been more intense than Jaedong/Bisu ever were. Flash is 90% since the start of October, and he hasn't been playing bad players either.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 01:12 GMT
#77
also, to answer the OP question:

Cloning!
Remember Violet.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 01 2010 01:17 GMT
#78
I absolutely LOVE Flash but please let's stop throwing out the b-word

He needs to win both leagues and not slump immediately afterward to even start being considered. He feels really strong right now but you have to establish that feeling where it's just "there's no way he loses this series" and you have to keep it for a long, long time.

If he wins OSL and gets to the MSL finals and dominates JD we might be able to start talking, and even then just barely. I need to see him trounce Bisu/Stork too....
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 01 2010 01:19 GMT
#79
Just because Flash plays in an era where there are another incredible gamers:

Bisu, Jaedong, Stork, etc..

doesn't mean he can't be considered one of the best ever. It's like Tennis. Federer is constantly winning tournaments because there's no one in the field to stop him. He's surely the greatest ever right? Or maybe not.. Nadal shows up.

Just because he has super strong competition doesn't make him any less impressive than savior for instance.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 01 2010 01:51 GMT
#80
Pick Protoss, spawn cross positions, go 2 base arbiters.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
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