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On December 30 2009 12:00 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 11:42 Athos wrote:On December 30 2009 11:40 ghostWriter wrote:On December 30 2009 08:56 jalstar wrote:On December 30 2009 08:56 emucxg wrote: Shine vs Flash would be awsome no it wouldn't, shine can't keep up macro-wise. So? Julyzerg wouldn't have been able to keep up with best macro-wise, but still managed to win a golden mouse off of him 3-0. Did you even fucking watch that series? Watch game 3 and tell me that July didn't out macro him. At the position July was at, I don't think it was very hard to outmacro Best w/ all those bases..
well....thats because July had to outmacro Best in the first place to get those bases up
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Shine beat Stork.
I don't like him.
I want him to lose, and he will lose.
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You can usually gauge the popularity of a new face on the scene by how often their name gets used in conjunction with 'bonjwa!!!'
So far I don't think anyone's shouted out 'Shine bonjwa!!!'.
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Well when BackHo was good back then, did we call him bonjwa?
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United States11390 Posts
On December 31 2009 10:16 Xiphos wrote: Well when BackHo was good back then, did we call him bonjwa? Backho transcends bonjwa fyi.
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On December 31 2009 10:16 Xiphos wrote: Well when BackHo was good back then, did we call him bonjwa? Backho wasn't very popular when he first came on to the scene, unlike say Perfectman, who was introduced to most of us in a pretty impressive game vs Iris in the playoffs.
Anyways, I think Backho premiered before the whole 'bonjwa' calling silliness began.
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Shine is a solid player, he has potential to go places. Hes not just beating up washed up players either hes beating the top protosses thats pretty impressive and i think he should at most be a #5 in the power rankings but thats just my opinion.
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I have no doubt Movie v Flash would be a better series than Shine v Flash. As a SC fan I have to pray this fool fails :D.
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On December 30 2009 15:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2009 14:45 dukethegold wrote: What makes me hate Shine is that he is defeating high profile players with basically standard play. They are really good, refined, even entertaining standard play. But it is still standard play.
If I missed something here, that Shine came up with an innovative/creative play, feel free to correct me.
When Shine wins straight up games, it's not good enough for you. If Shine goes some 2-hatch build all-in, you all yell, "Ahh can't even play straight up! Boo!" Seriously. Fuck you little haters.
to be fair are you sure that dukethegold at an earlier time said he didn't like shine because he played too cheesy? If not are you just assuming that everyone who hates shine operates in some sort of hivemind?
still its pretty funny how people can have such widely different opinions on why not to like shine lol
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Shine is good, but I worry about his ZvT. If he meets Flash he will be torn to complete fucking shreds. His best chance is to hope that Calm beats Flash, because Shine is good at ZvZ as well as ZvP.
And stop with the hating of Silver. The real reason you all hate him is because he was yet another prominent figure in a long line of Zergs who slay Protoss players left and right.
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Checking this thread to see if he was Shining yet.
Yep, he is. 8 pages of Star Power.
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Calm is one of the best ZvZers out there. I don't think Shine wins this OSL even if Calm pulls an upset over Flash.
Shine's play on El Nino was amazing as far as mind games go. He knew Stork would be going Sair/Reaver like he always does, plus El Nino is a good map for that because of the outer ring of expansions. So once he sees that Stork's not doing anything fishy, he just goes and builds tons of mutas, rendering the reavers useless.
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On December 31 2009 12:13 MrHoon wrote:number of shine haters in the foreign community is rather surprising as in Korea it really took the opposite effect. Alot of people were disappointed that both stork AND bisu fell to the hands of this new aggressive Zerg, but on the otherhand Korea is calling him "The most entertaining Zerg since the Era of YellOw and July" I have mixed feelings for Shine. Actually, it's kinda neutral now. I have no idea where these feelings will go. I want to find out.
If Shine proves to have a very nice ZvT then I will not hate him as much. Right now, I feel he's just abusing a matchup that's skewed in Zerg favor. Sure, he's abusing it better than some other zergs but it's just nothing special.
This is the same reason I don't go all rah rah happy when Stork beats Leta or Sea or Really. It's just to be expected.
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Shine is fucking awesome and anyone who doesn't agree needs to watch at least the last 5-10 minutes of Violet vs Shine on Destination.
I'm disappointed that he knocked out Stork, since Stork is awesomer, but Shine's games are almost invariably entertaining.
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I really liked Shine after watching his crazy games vs. Really, stared hating him after he killed off Bisu and fantasy, hated him a little less after beating effort and watching him outplay Violet, and I FCKING HATED HIM after he beat Stork.
Then I like him a lot again after I found out how hated he was. I was like fck, this kid is the biggest and hated underdog ever, I love it. Best thing to happen to WeMade in a while and he is capable of abusing maps and match ups to the fullest which any good progamer should be doing.
Go Shine!
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I like Shine fine, I just would've preferred to see protoss NOT lose to zerg. Especially with how strong Stork has been... but I don't hate the player for it.
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Why'd he have to beat Stork?
Really like Shine as a player, but his style makes it even more satisfying to see your favourite player crush him. Kill Bisu a 1000 more times, Shine, but Stork not once more. Seriously.
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Hes not the next Jaedong. Gross overestimation...
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Idea for nickname: dragon slayer
Every time he's faced one of the 6 dragons he's won the first game, although he hasn't played BeSt or free yet.
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