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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 28 2009 01:15 GMT
#161
im nominating this for post of the year award
great post rekrul
i wish it had worked out differently, but no point dwelling on the past
there will be a white progamer in SC2
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Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 01:20:57
December 28 2009 01:19 GMT
#162
How is everyone praising Rekrul? He's only stating the obvious. When Nony went he knew he would be playing iccup only. He specifically said this because he knew what Idra had to go through.

Rekrul is doing the exact same thing Chill was so blunt about when others did it. Now Chill suddenly praises him for it.

Also, Rekrul has been wrong on Idra.

Not to mention he used to be a poker player. Go figure!
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
December 28 2009 01:23 GMT
#163
On December 28 2009 10:06 miseiler wrote:
God I wish some people in science had half the balls Rekrul does.

It's such an incredible skill...being able to tell someone that what they're doing is stupid. Too much time is wasted in my line of work when all they needed was a Rekrul to tell them, 'Just fucking stop. This is stupid.'


I disagree ... if anyone else made this post they'd be banned.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 28 2009 01:25 GMT
#164
so much truth about life being disseminated in this thread, awesome post by hot_bid above
EvilSky
Profile Joined March 2006
Czech Republic548 Posts
December 28 2009 01:26 GMT
#165
Very informative, kinda guessed that much, but Rek did you tell ret all this before he came there? lol
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 01:34:01
December 28 2009 01:33 GMT
#166
=(

makes me respect Idra even more thou
Arsis
Profile Joined May 2009
9 Posts
December 28 2009 01:43 GMT
#167
I had a bet going with a friend. I won that bet. Thank you, Ret.

Every ret-tard kept saying he'd make it, he'd make it. Fucking make what? The fucking pro-league? You expect to get make a pro-league appereance by not even knowing how to zvz?
I knew he'd choke after his post on the naugnim(or w.e his name is) incident, where it was being discussed whether he should be allowed to play or not. Ret, your words were words of fear.

Sorry, but nice people get nowhere. People without balls don't get fucking ANYWHERE.

White-Ra: He's the fucker I respect the MOST out of this twisted liquid team shit. He's even managing a program to expand e-sports in his country. That takes balls, that takes fucking steel balls.

Ret. You ought to talk to Rekul and White-ra. Learn what real men with visions and balls are. Then maybe, just fucking MAYBE my bet with a friend will go on your favor.

But 100 bucks to me. I'm happy.
Look at the bright side; There is no bright side, therefore you have one less side to worry about.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 28 2009 01:45 GMT
#168
Good to see some clarity from someone who knows what they are talking about.
Never Knows Best.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
December 28 2009 01:45 GMT
#169
arsis ur post is contradictory.. white-ra isnt a nice person? what are you even trying to say
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nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
December 28 2009 01:48 GMT
#170
On December 28 2009 10:43 Arsis wrote:
I had a bet going with a friend. I won that bet. Thank you, Ret.

Every ret-tard kept saying he'd make it, he'd make it. Fucking make what? The fucking pro-league? You expect to get make a pro-league appereance by not even knowing how to zvz?
I knew he'd choke after his post on the naugnim(or w.e his name is) incident, where it was being discussed whether he should be allowed to play or not. Ret, your words were words of fear.

Sorry, but nice people get nowhere. People without balls don't get fucking ANYWHERE.

White-Ra: He's the fucker I respect the MOST out of this twisted liquid team shit. He's even managing a program to expand e-sports in his country. That takes balls, that takes fucking steel balls.

Ret. You ought to talk to Rekul and White-ra. Learn what real men with visions and balls are. Then maybe, just fucking MAYBE my bet with a friend will go on your favor.

But 100 bucks to me. I'm happy.


Now i have another reason to cheer for ret, so u loose 100 bucks =D
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 28 2009 01:49 GMT
#171
On December 28 2009 10:43 Arsis wrote:
I had a bet going with a friend. I won that bet. Thank you, Ret.

Every ret-tard kept saying he'd make it, he'd make it. Fucking make what? The fucking pro-league? You expect to get make a pro-league appereance by not even knowing how to zvz?
I knew he'd choke after his post on the naugnim(or w.e his name is) incident, where it was being discussed whether he should be allowed to play or not. Ret, your words were words of fear.

Sorry, but nice people get nowhere. People without balls don't get fucking ANYWHERE.

White-Ra: He's the fucker I respect the MOST out of this twisted liquid team shit. He's even managing a program to expand e-sports in his country. That takes balls, that takes fucking steel balls.

Ret. You ought to talk to Rekul and White-ra. Learn what real men with visions and balls are. Then maybe, just fucking MAYBE my bet with a friend will go on your favor.

But 100 bucks to me. I'm happy.


Putting ur life on hold to go to a completely foreign country full of uncertainty but motivated by hope is pretty ballsy, no?
why so 진지해?
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
December 28 2009 01:54 GMT
#172
On December 28 2009 10:49 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 10:43 Arsis wrote:
I had a bet going with a friend. I won that bet. Thank you, Ret.

Every ret-tard kept saying he'd make it, he'd make it. Fucking make what? The fucking pro-league? You expect to get make a pro-league appereance by not even knowing how to zvz?
I knew he'd choke after his post on the naugnim(or w.e his name is) incident, where it was being discussed whether he should be allowed to play or not. Ret, your words were words of fear.

Sorry, but nice people get nowhere. People without balls don't get fucking ANYWHERE.

White-Ra: He's the fucker I respect the MOST out of this twisted liquid team shit. He's even managing a program to expand e-sports in his country. That takes balls, that takes fucking steel balls.

Ret. You ought to talk to Rekul and White-ra. Learn what real men with visions and balls are. Then maybe, just fucking MAYBE my bet with a friend will go on your favor.

But 100 bucks to me. I'm happy.


Putting ur life on hold to go to a completely foreign country full of uncertainty but motivated by hope is pretty ballsy, no?

It's not being ballsy, it's called being delusional.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 28 2009 02:01 GMT
#173
On December 28 2009 10:54 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 10:49 Rekrul wrote:
On December 28 2009 10:43 Arsis wrote:
I had a bet going with a friend. I won that bet. Thank you, Ret.

Every ret-tard kept saying he'd make it, he'd make it. Fucking make what? The fucking pro-league? You expect to get make a pro-league appereance by not even knowing how to zvz?
I knew he'd choke after his post on the naugnim(or w.e his name is) incident, where it was being discussed whether he should be allowed to play or not. Ret, your words were words of fear.

Sorry, but nice people get nowhere. People without balls don't get fucking ANYWHERE.

White-Ra: He's the fucker I respect the MOST out of this twisted liquid team shit. He's even managing a program to expand e-sports in his country. That takes balls, that takes fucking steel balls.

Ret. You ought to talk to Rekul and White-ra. Learn what real men with visions and balls are. Then maybe, just fucking MAYBE my bet with a friend will go on your favor.

But 100 bucks to me. I'm happy.


Putting ur life on hold to go to a completely foreign country full of uncertainty but motivated by hope is pretty ballsy, no?

It's not being ballsy, it's called being delusional.


I'd say ballsy and delusional are almost the same words (or expressions) in this context.
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Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
December 28 2009 02:01 GMT
#174
On December 28 2009 10:54 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 10:49 Rekrul wrote:
On December 28 2009 10:43 Arsis wrote:
I had a bet going with a friend. I won that bet. Thank you, Ret.

Every ret-tard kept saying he'd make it, he'd make it. Fucking make what? The fucking pro-league? You expect to get make a pro-league appereance by not even knowing how to zvz?
I knew he'd choke after his post on the naugnim(or w.e his name is) incident, where it was being discussed whether he should be allowed to play or not. Ret, your words were words of fear.

Sorry, but nice people get nowhere. People without balls don't get fucking ANYWHERE.

White-Ra: He's the fucker I respect the MOST out of this twisted liquid team shit. He's even managing a program to expand e-sports in his country. That takes balls, that takes fucking steel balls.

Ret. You ought to talk to Rekul and White-ra. Learn what real men with visions and balls are. Then maybe, just fucking MAYBE my bet with a friend will go on your favor.

But 100 bucks to me. I'm happy.


Putting ur life on hold to go to a completely foreign country full of uncertainty but motivated by hope is pretty ballsy, no?

It's not being ballsy, it's called being delusional.

Whats delusional in taking a year off and going to a different country to try to make your dream come true? No matter how you look at it it's an awsome experiance, Way better than taking a year of doing nothing as a lot of people do.
4649!!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 02:06:42
December 28 2009 02:04 GMT
#175
This thread managed to fill to the top with bull shit pretty quickly.

To the group saying, "Open your eyes, of course it was going to be hard." This isn't the issue. Everybody is aware of the amount of work required to succeed in progaming, but having the deck stacked against you at an all ready difficult task is what is interesting. Realistically, I doubt the majority of posters actually thought ret would win his first or second courage, but given time to practice and train with eStro over the course of some months I'd imagine many people would say his chances would increase greatly. That, however, seems like it's not an option, so the proverbial "told you so's" are as fucking retarded as the guy telling ret to man up.

On December 28 2009 10:54 EsX_Raptor wrote:
It's not being ballsy, it's called being delusional.


Don't confuse people cheering for ret to do well with legitimate expectations of sane people. Your post isn't edgy, it's stupid.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 02:13:01
December 28 2009 02:07 GMT
#176
The original post was a good read. Read the whole thing! A lot of people have this distorted vision of going to Korea and becoming GOSU in Starcraft, but it just doesn't work that way. I really do hope IdrA is spending at LEAST a little bit of time learning Korean. Yao Ming's chinese speaking ass learned English so that he could communicate with his Rocket team and now they love him because he can actually communicate with his team.

Anyways point is Koreans work INSANE amount of hours and getting to practice with them will feel like an honor for about 2 hours before you realize you are in a Korean sweatshop playing Starcraft for God knows how long. I can barely play like 2-3 games in a row before I want to close the damn game.

PS: The best part about Korea IMO is the cheap soju.

Starcraft is just a bonus. Me personally I'd prefer Japan ^_^, but meh my job is in South Korea
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
December 28 2009 02:08 GMT
#177
Man, what a wake up call Good read.
Sunshine.
Heaven.ReV
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway86 Posts
December 28 2009 02:18 GMT
#178
holy crap, this was a nice and informative post! A lot of credit and thank you very much for enlightening me, Rekrul =)

I've always thought that becoming pro-gamer is a waste of life, though, even though I have to agree that every man his own.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 05:21:25
December 28 2009 02:19 GMT
#179
Hello

re: working in Korea. (although I suspect it's the same wherever you go)

You make a choice pretty early on.

You either decide to pay your dues, or you decide that the end result of paying them dues isn't worth it, and you out.

In American terms, it's not unlike the initiations for joining a fraternity. You go through shit to get the respect of the group. Your resolve is tested - can people trust you? Can they consider you accountable? Can they consider you competent? If you still don't get it, you can go watch Avatar.

Either decision is legit. I don't know shit about ret, but from what I gather it seems that his decision to forgo the dues and forgo the possible benefits was a good one.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 28 2009 02:22 GMT
#180
I'm studying in a college with nearly one thousand Korean. What rekrul said about Korean personality is true esp the younger age Koreans. To be honest, Koreans are not that nice, they are very close mind in someway, if you are foreigner they just shy away, they want to stick around in their own small group.
I'm sure ret is isolated in Korea, but this is what he choice, it may not be a adventure but it's sure a experience in life that you will remember for many years to come.
Anway, very good post but still i support the all foreigner that brave enough to go to Korea. If you guys can't blend in, really its not your fault. Koreans are hard to deal with
Terran
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