EPTret encountered idra on msn
after some trash talk, ret offered idra a game..
idra vs ret grudge match now!
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Navane
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ret encountered idra on msn after some trash talk, ret offered idra a game.. | ||
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Itachii
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zekie
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Navane
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idra claimed he 'did-not' | ||
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meegrean
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kfour
United States106 Posts
gogo ret! | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
It's the damn finals like 2 months ahead of time! Yay for Christmas wishes! | ||
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Navane
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oBlade
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Blind
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
"You won without doing a single thing" | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
TSL.IdrA: you won without doing a single thing TSL.IdrA has left the game | ||
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jimminy_kriket
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Navane
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Geo.Rion
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"Isnt this funny? You won without doing a single thing" I hope i qoute it correctly | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
'You won without doing anything' | ||
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theqat
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meegrean
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mcJ
Denmark322 Posts
lol | ||
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InDaHouse
Sweden956 Posts
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ProbeSaturation
Canada292 Posts
Idra "isn't this funny"..."you won't without doing a single thing" | ||
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Sentient66
United States651 Posts
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
Idra: "Isn't this funny. You win without even doing a single thing" | ||
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Itachii
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
Idra: isnt this funny Idra: you won without doing a single thing Ret was playing defensive defiler lurk/ling to secure 4 base into ultra Great game | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:44 Geo.Rion wrote: haha "Isnt this funny? You won without doing a single thing" I hope i qoute it correctly Yeah lol..hahahaa ret: "That's a little preview of whats gonna happen oin TSL, | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
Idra just attacked the whole damn time, perfect defense by Ret. GG. | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:44 Megalisk wrote: Yeah lol..hahahaa ret: "That's a little preview of whats gonna happen oin TSL, lol | ||
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zerotol
Belgium508 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
blunt anti-social honesty by awesome guy vs humble guy who knows he is awesome | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
it's top class entertainment | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
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kfour
United States106 Posts
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
gg sick game | ||
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
 800 people watching ! | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On December 13 2009 02:44 mcJ wrote: "you won by doing a single thing" lol you quoted it really wrongly | ||
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
IDRA! I AM YOUR FAN | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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Frits
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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IdrA
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
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Iraq1796 Posts
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Mumblee
Canada256 Posts
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kfour
United States106 Posts
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:50 IdrA wrote: cant re, hes dodging cuz hes a newbie NOOOOOO | ||
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zazen
Brazil695 Posts
Idra BM is pure entertainment. | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:50 IdrA wrote: cant re, hes dodging cuz hes a newbie <3 | ||
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
reps pease? | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:50 IdrA wrote: cant re, hes dodging cuz hes a newbie HAHAHAHAHAHA :-)))) I think I am slowly turning from a hardcore hater into a huge Idra fan. | ||
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Altair
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John49ers
United States237 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Isn't it's funny... You won without doing a single thing (That's atleast how I recall it) | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:55 ProoM wrote: Epic game and even more epic ending ! :D. Idra ragequitted with a nerdrage style ^^! Err.. i wouldn't call that ragequitting and nerdraging.. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:56 grobo wrote: Err.. i wouldn't call that ragequitting and nerdraging.. After he quit, he didn't said gg, and instead just some "ironic" notes. After that he flamed ret in msn. Really? you wouldn't call it like that? Oh and I can remember ret saying to lz, like it was yesterday+ Show Spoiler + it was 5 mins ago "Just won against IdrA, now he's flaming at me in msn. What a nice guy." | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
To be fair, it's probably true. Ret doesn't want to lose his current placement in TSL2. However, they could have had a re on different accounts. Idra: You said "you won without doing a single thing", to quote loosely, were you talking about his hidden lurkers? Plus, it was followed up by sitting on three-four bases with swarm. On December 13 2009 02:54 Boblion wrote: Idra is the best villain ever. So true. I'm a big fan. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:59 IdrA wrote: no hes dodging a re on any account because hes a newbie Obviously... ret is so bad... just got lucky.  j/k... I wonder if he would re if you gg'ed. ^^ I feel sorry for anyone who missed this. | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:57 ProoM wrote: After he quit, he didn't said gg, and instead just some "ironic" notes. After that he flamed ret in msn. Really? you wouldn't call it like that? Oh and I can remember ret saying to lz, like it was yesterday+ Show Spoiler + it was 5 mins ago "Just won against IdrA, now he's flaming at me in msn. What a nice guy." first of all check the definition of "epic" word idra doesn't say gg too often as we all know and its his damn right to do so no it wasn't ragequit, at all | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
Idra just did not do enough to win! | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
(I did saw it, but I wanna watch it again!) | ||
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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s[O]rry
Canada398 Posts
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United States187 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:06 gds wrote: i have recorded the fpvod from ret's stream, if several of you are interested maybe i'll take the time to reencode and upload it somewhere. btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid. Yes plz upload. I can't believe I barely missed this shit. | ||
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QibingZero
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Kiante
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cakemanofdoom
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On December 13 2009 03:06 gds wrote: i have recorded the fpvod from ret's stream, if several of you are interested maybe i'll take the time to reencode and upload it somewhere. btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid. OMG plz upload! | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
just to provide entertainment like most grudge matches (me vs pokebunny cough ) | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:05 Kiante wrote: Watching idra lose then QQ about it really warms my heart. I wonder how many new users / first posts TL has solely on account of IdrA-related drama. I think at least 2 million Chinese registered during the IdrA-F91 liquibition haha | ||
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nbtnbt5
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On December 13 2009 03:06 gds wrote: i have recorded the fpvod from ret's stream, if several of you are interested maybe i'll take the time to reencode and upload it somewhere. btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid. Please do. I got on the stream just as Idra said "you won without doing a single thing" | ||
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SkelA
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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zerglingsfolife
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Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:54 Boblion wrote: Idra is the best villain ever. + On December 13 2009 03:05 s[O]rry wrote: Sorry Idra. You'll get him next time. = ? | ||
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edahl
Norway483 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:13 Foucault wrote: The best thing about Idra is that you never know when him being serious stops and him being ironic begins I'm increasingly starting to think that being serious never ends, and being ironic never begins. Which kinda worries me. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:16 edahl wrote: I'm increasingly starting to think that being serious never ends, and being ironic never begins. Which kinda worries me. Yup, me too. | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:16 edahl wrote: I'm increasingly starting to think that being serious never ends, and being ironic never begins. Which kinda worries me. IdrA? Ironic? are you out of your mind? | ||
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
Idra's comments are the norm | ||
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malathion
United States361 Posts
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NFL2368
United States112 Posts
cocky boring style rapes everyone repeatedly | ||
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dasanivan
United States532 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
Turtle up and starve the other player out? gg | ||
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asl-ninja
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malathion
United States361 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:13 KrAzYfoOL wrote: idra asked ret for a game when he knew ret was streaming, provided you guys with a great game, and you ungrateful little fucks go and flame him for his comments? Rofl quoting this | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:25 danl9rm wrote: I love how a terran said a zerg didn't have to do anything to win. Isn't that terran's race-defining signature? Turtle up and starve the other player out? gg I hate how you replaced ret and Idra with "zerg" and "terran". | ||
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stack
Canada348 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:25 danl9rm wrote: I love how a terran said a zerg didn't have to do anything to win. Isn't that terran's race-defining signature? Turtle up and starve the other player out? gg yup. Idra is touted for having great macro and mechanics. That entails playing defensive perfect until its time to push. Zerg has more stress imo and most zerg players will agree. | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:06 gds wrote: i have recorded the fpvod from ret's stream, if several of you are interested maybe i'll take the time to reencode and upload it somewhere. btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid. please | ||
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Mumblee
Canada256 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ret open three hatch lurker, Idra opened on rax expand on fighting spirit. Ret places his lurker/ling out front of idras base in the center (across the bridge) and grabs a second main for his third as well as hive tech. Idra goes for a standard 3 tank + 1 vessel push and ret delays it beautifully across the map. By the time the push hits hit main bridge, defilers and consume are out and he holds it off. Ret takes a 4th (the natural of the main he took earlier) but quickly loses it when he can't reinforce between his two bases because of the contain. Ret retakes it though, and idra's drop against ret fails when the dropship is picked off by scourge. Idra has a third up and is going for a 4th, but ret has his tech tree done. Ret struggles to push back out across his own bridge, but the contain is strong. 12 lings sneak into idras 4th and kills the cc before it finishes, and then forces the cc at idra's third to lift with the help of a defiler. With Idra's main and nat presumably mined out and with a 3rd that's being harassed constantly, ret takes a 5th and 6th base and pushes out with a ton of ultra/defiler/ling, killing idra's army in the center and winning the game. | ||
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United States2069 Posts
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:31 Mumblee wrote: Ghetto battlereport below, scold me if I missed anything. + Show Spoiler + Ret open three hatch lurker, Idra opened on rax expand on fighting spirit. Ret places his lurker/ling out front of idras base in the center (across the bridge) and grabs a second main for his third as well as hive tech. Idra goes for a standard 3 tank + 1 vessel push and ret delays it beautifully across the map. By the time the push hits hit main bridge, defilers and consume are out and he holds it off. Ret takes a 4th (the natural of the main he took earlier) but quickly loses it when he can't reinforce between his two bases because of the contain. Ret retakes it though, and idra's drop against ret fails when the dropship is picked off by scourge. Idra has a third up and is going for a 4th, but ret has his tech tree done. Ret struggles to push back out across his own bridge, but the contain is strong. 12 lings sneak into idras 4th and kills the cc before it finishes, and then forces the cc at idra's third to lift with the help of a defiler. With Idra's main and nat presumably mined out and with a 3rd that's being harassed constantly, ret takes a 5th and 6th base and pushes out with a ton of ultra/defiler/ling, killing idra's army in the center and winning the game. I tuned in here. I guess I missed the beautiful delaying of the timing push, gotta watch fpvod then ^^. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:25 danl9rm wrote: I love how a terran said a zerg didn't have to do anything to win. Isn't that terran's race-defining signature? Turtle up and starve the other player out? gg Right, turtling up when playing Bio TvZ is the right thing to do. + Show Spoiler + NOT! | ||
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youlijp
Brazil112 Posts
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
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Frits
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On December 13 2009 03:13 KrAzYfoOL wrote: idra asked ret for a game when he knew ret was streaming, provided you guys with a great game, and you ungrateful little fucks go and flame him for his comments? He only did it so he could humiliate ret live, and then lost. | ||
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kulik-
Czech Republic305 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:13 KrAzYfoOL wrote: idra asked ret for a game when he knew ret was streaming, provided you guys with a great game, and you ungrateful little fucks go and flame him for his comments? i think he asked because he knew that hes streaming and he wanted to show that he will win i doubt that he challenge him to make us happy it was because of his ego more than feelings to be good to community | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
That cat is Artosis. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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wifebeater
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Go win TSL IdrA! | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I know you will  | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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zazen
Brazil695 Posts
I'd sell my soul to see Day[9] commentating a BO5 between Ret vs Idra. | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:51 zazen wrote: hmmm, villain terran, that's not a bad nickname at all. I'd sell my soul to see Day[9] commentating a BO5 between Ret vs Idra. Your soul eh? That can be arranged... MUHAHAHA | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On December 13 2009 04:03 DwmC_Foefen wrote: Your soul eh? That can be arranged... MUHAHAHA Take one for the team zazen. This guy seems legit. | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
"i'm gonna get accused of abuse first kolll and now you" <3 idra | ||
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
I must see this now now now | ||
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
On December 13 2009 04:41 SirGlinG wrote: Vods or it didn't happen I must see this now now now i'll post the VOD here in about an hour. | ||
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United States1034 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:47 ProoM wrote: There was around 800 viewers that witnessed this game, how awsome is that? Day9, beat that! :D + Show Spoiler + I know you will Well, he already did. Three times. Idra's bm is kind of an endearing feature now, haha. | ||
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myfriendPlank
United States550 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/Stormalong/dj-drama-cd.jpg) Never fails to disappoint. | ||
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sS.NuB
Angola107 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:26 Sharp-eYe wrote: ret got this ezpz Agreed =D. #1 ret fan!! On December 13 2009 04:52 myfriendPlank wrote: Lol, Ret beats IdrA in one game and everybody goes crazy. Oh well, at the end of the day: IdrA > Ret. If he won the game then how is Idra better then him? | ||
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malathion
United States361 Posts
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tre2ettsexsju
Sweden248 Posts
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
Must've been epic, props to Idra and Ret for purposely putting up a great show it seems.  Get him next time, Idra. ^^ | ||
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
On December 13 2009 04:41 SirGlinG wrote: Vods or it didn't happen I must see this now now now You need to get your memes straight. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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John49ers
United States237 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
yea, don't kill me. | ||
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On December 13 2009 05:09 sS.NuB wrote: Agreed =D. #1 ret fan!! If he won the game then how is Idra better then him? Because although ret is super awesome, IdrA would still take him easily in a series of games. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 13 2009 05:35 Masamune wrote: The more Idra bm's the more I like him for some reason. He's like the villain you love to hate. Yea same for me. I think he has somewhat created his own "character". That's like a nice scheme to get advertising, fame and build the hype. It's perfect for TSL. | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On December 13 2009 06:02 Megalisk wrote: Because although ret is super awesome, IdrA would still take him easily in a series of games. We'll soon find out. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:44 T.O.P. wrote: "Isn't this funny" "You won without doing a single thing" On December 13 2009 02:44 JWD wrote: TSL.IdrA: isnt this funny TSL.IdrA: you won without doing a single thing TSL.IdrA has left the game On December 13 2009 02:44 Navane wrote: "Isn't it funny, you won without doing a single thing" -idra On December 13 2009 02:44 Geo.Rion wrote: haha "Isnt this funny? You won without doing a single thing" I hope i qoute it correctly On December 13 2009 02:44 deconduo wrote: Awesome game 'You won without doing anything' On December 13 2009 02:44 theqat wrote: lol. "isn't this funny" "you won without doing a single thing" On December 13 2009 02:44 ProbeSaturation wrote: RET wins? Idra "isn't this funny"..."you won't without doing a single thing" On December 13 2009 02:44 Elvin_vn wrote: + Show Spoiler + Idra: "Isn't this funny. You win without even doing a single thing" On December 13 2009 02:44 samachking wrote: standard idra trash talk Idra: isnt this funny Idra: you won without doing a single thing Ret was playing defensive defiler lurk/ling to secure 4 base into ultra Great game | ||
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
dont upload it somewhere else please so i can get points to get free premium acc. thx | ||
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Ruken
United States858 Posts
On December 13 2009 06:16 gds wrote: vod: [url blocked] dont upload it somewhere else please so i can get points to get free premium acc. thx "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable." | ||
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable. | ||
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
works fine on my side | ||
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SanguineToss
Canada815 Posts
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
On December 13 2009 06:23 Ruken wrote: "The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable." | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3683 Posts
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
replay is up )))) | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
Idra: Isn't this funny? Idra: You won without doing a single thing. TSL-Idra has left the game. | ||
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
On December 13 2009 06:30 DyEnasTy wrote: Why did Idra leave? It wasnt over, in my mind. it was pretty much over, they had about same popluation but ret had like 2 running bases and several more on their way, while idra pretty much had that 3rd being harrassed and he had just lost map control. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i50.tinypic.com/14sp7xx.png) | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
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Frits
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On December 13 2009 06:02 Megalisk wrote: Because although ret is super awesome, IdrA would still take him easily in a series of games. That makes no sense after watching that game, even though it was just one game, it was close, and ret winning wasn't attributable to one big event in the match. If ret and IdrA played a series it would definately be close. Besides, as far as I can remember all their previous encounters were really close, with many of those occuring not more than a few months ago. | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3683 Posts
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myfriendPlank
United States550 Posts
On December 13 2009 05:09 sS.NuB wrote: Agreed =D. #1 ret fan!! If he won the game then how is Idra better then him? Lol after reading "#1 ret fan!!!!," there's no point in actually replying.... | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
also: Winning without doing anything... Very useful talent toi have | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
Do I need any specific codec for it? | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
On December 13 2009 08:57 niteReloaded wrote: If idra is serious in what he says, I'm not so sure he's progamer level metagame-wise. explain I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid. | ||
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
can someone confirm it so i dont have to lose time to fix the problem. mtmf: use VLC | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On December 13 2009 09:08 Frits wrote: explain I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid. Exactly. Say you want to 14 CC on a map, which is a legitimate strategy, but your opponent 4 pools you. Its out of your hands - the loss was inevitable with your strategy and his. Not a bad excuse I would say. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On December 13 2009 09:08 Frits wrote: explain I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid. Well, I'm not sure this falls under "metagame" or basic knowledge about starcraft, but what ret did was play a slightly greedy style while making sure he doesn't die, buying time till he gets the "dooms day" units. He applied economic pressure by taking the 4th gas. Before that, he applied economic pressure by cleverly faking mutas.(ret waited for Spire to finish only to make 6 hydras all at once and morph them into lurkers soon.) Idra wasted some minerals on turrets. This wasn't really Idra's mistake coz it all looked like standard 3hatch muta, but you have to credit Ret for this move. Real pressure with units can kill you immediately, economic pressure kills you later. By saying "you did nothing" it seems like idra is categorizing this economic approach as lesser or something which would be an extremely ignorant thing to do, and it's why I said what you quoted. His attempts of shutting down the left side of the map were miserable. He knew Ret was gonna have Ultra's soon and it seemed to me that he was planning on out muscling the ultras, which, again, is not your standard #1 pick for fighting the ultralisks strategy. I think a much smarter thing to do would have been to make like 3 dropships, DMatrix them if needed and start dropping like a madman, coz you could say ret was spread thin before ultras. His only hope was to cut Ret's resources and he failed by being too passive/choosing wrong battles. One might say Idra wasn't passive, but when you look at the battles he chose, those were wrong places to focus your attention on. He seemed undetermined in the game, walking from left side to the right without really having a plan on what to do. Was he underestimating ret, and expecting he would make a mistake while only having to worry not to die by casting a few swarms every now and then? + a huge /IMO tag, I'm a C level player. (I promise it's coz of my mechanics :p) | ||
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
On December 13 2009 09:10 gds wrote: so the megaupload link works for you now? can someone confirm it so i dont have to lose time to fix the problem. mtmf: use VLC Same problem with VLC, no sound at all... I just downloaded the latest version of K-Lite Full Pack (5.5.1), but still no sound. EDIT: Oh, the megaupload link worked fine for me. | ||
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malathion
United States361 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:06 gds wrote: i have recorded the fpvod from ret's stream, if several of you are interested maybe i'll take the time to reencode and upload it somewhere. btw: awesome play by ret imo, very solid. Yes please! The replay is fine but i loveeeee rets fpv I was way to quick to quote lol, thanks for the vod | ||
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AstraBoy
Peru363 Posts
Im pretty sure the b team zerg's kick his ass with ease and they win by doing nothing, cuz they only play you with one hand xd | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On December 13 2009 08:15 Iplaythings wrote: Was hillarious also: Winning without doing anything... Very useful talent toi have Actually it was Idra: You're good at making carriers. Draco: Thanks Idra: Very useful talent toi have. Idra has left the game. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On December 13 2009 10:15 Slaughter wrote: Irda's BM is as good as his play Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet. The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote: Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet. The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has. True, his BM can only get better. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote: Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet. The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has. so due to his bm he cant get better, right.... sound on the vod dosent work for me either, im playing it in vlc and still nothing | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On December 13 2009 03:17 Slow Motion wrote: The best thing about Idra is that if you're a fan, you are guaranteed to be entertained whether he wins or loses. And the guys flaming Idra and counter-flaming are fun too; it's all part of the complete Idra entertainment package. True, I wouldn't be an Idra fan if the Idra hate wagon wasn't so intense | ||
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
On December 13 2009 11:12 Scaramanga wrote: so due to his bm he cant get better, right.... Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself. | ||
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ComradeDover
Bulgaria758 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself. dont think oov's or stork's bm held them back I honestly think to succeed in bw in some way or another you sortof do need that mindset. To think that you're better than everyone else. Im pretty sure the majority of progamers dont think the way they portray themselves in interviews. A lot of people say koreans are really gm but if you understood korean you would know some of the most bm people are koreans. Its just they cant speak english well. Cant even call it bm at times because its just frustration. After like 10 minutes later the person is all fine and jolly again. Im not saying bm should be praised or anything but just to add a different side to it. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
And anyway guys, true winner in any sport needs to have that "ignorant" attitude so they can concentrate on how to beat their opponent instead of if they can beat their opponent. Anyone who knows someone who has mastered certain sport can confirm this. + Show Spoiler + Best example in SC is probably oov, he used to speak shit of his opponents but did he ever really stop raping them compeletely? Savior hit the bottom hard after Bisu manhandled him. Why? Because that beating made him think he was no longer the MAN. Had he just thought: "okay, this new protoss is good but he got lucky too with his new build" he would have never started to lose to any terran and zerg too. This mentality is hard to retain after losing it. Then you say there are great players who are always nice and mannered, but why do these players speak highly of their opponents? Because they really believe what they say: "This guy has to be good because he made me fight so hard, and I´m so damn good!" | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself. rofl | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
On December 13 2009 10:22 niteReloaded wrote: Idra's BM for me is a sure indicator he's nowhere near the level of best koreans i.e. we can't expect any bigger things from him .. yet. The mindset that's capable of spilling out such comments isn't even aware how much room for improvement he has. do you read what you post? | ||
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Loser777
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself. :D Bm didnt stop iloveoov or stork from winning a starleauge, and one blog post dosent mean that im ALWAYS bad manner | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On December 13 2009 09:08 Frits wrote: explain I think it's pretty irrelevant, besides, blaming your loss on something out of your control is an effective coping strategy, even if it makes you look stupid. imo any games after then 10 minute mark favor the better player + Show Spoiler + http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/290667/1x1.html therefore, it wasnt completely out of his control so wouldn't pretending it was just hurt him later on? | ||
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CaptainPlatypus
United States852 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:24 Fzero wrote:Stork is fucking psychotic. He LAUGHS during LIVE TELEVISION matches because he thinks his opponents attempts to kill him are so futile and weak. And Stork is, in case some of you have missed this, the man. BE LIKE STORK. | ||
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NicolBolas
United States1388 Posts
On December 13 2009 17:24 Fzero wrote: The thing you guys don't understand is that Jaedong has the most BM attitude of anyone in progaming. Jaedong imagines himself killing his opponent IN REALITY in his pre-game warmups. He's admitted this in interviews. Stork is fucking psychotic. He LAUGHS during LIVE TELEVISION matches because he thinks his opponents attempts to kill him are so futile and weak. Idra just types some angry text and leaves the game. Pretty tame, no? And yet in the midst of all of that... they still GG when they lose. It may be automatic, it may be a meaningless courtesy, but it is a courtesy nevertheless. Whatever their attitude may be, they do not send messages to their opponents praising themselves. And they never give excuses for a lost or denigrate an opponent for beating them. To me, it's the last part that's the worst for Idra. I can kinda understand Jaedong and Stork's mindset. I can see a pro player laughing at some crap-ass attempt to knock the master from his perch. I can understand psyching oneself up for battle by imagining killing your opponent. But when you lose a game, when you are beaten, you accept it. You don't make excuses. You don't denigrate your opponent. You accept that you lost. To do otherwise shows both an immaturity and an unwillingness to see reality for what it is, rather than what you would like it to be. Isn't that why Scrubs are hated so much? Because they put the blame on something other than themselves when they lose? "Oh, Mutalisks need to be nerfed." "Siege Tanks are too powerful." Etc. And isn't that attitude exactly why they don't improve? Because they're not willing to find the actual problem rather than inventing fictitious ones, they cannot see their faults for what they are and make them better. | ||
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Fixed
United States174 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On December 13 2009 16:04 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Yeah that's quite true actually, I assume you don't agree with the notion because I'm told you're a bad mannered shitcunt yourself. why would you bm a bming shitcunt you cuntshitting bm | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On December 13 2009 08:15 Iplaythings wrote: Was hillarious also: Winning without doing anything... Very useful talent toi have How to beat IdRa: Build carriers and don't do a single thing. He will leave the game, guaranteed. This is because not doing a single thing is funny, and building carriers is a very useful talent toi have. | ||
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ftb
49 Posts
On December 13 2009 19:28 Qwertify wrote: How to beat IdRa: Build carriers and don't do a single thing. He will leave the game, guaranteed. This is because not doing a single thing is funny, and building carriers is a very useful talent toi have. Since IdrA's secret is revealed Nony will have no problems beating him, because Nony can build carriers while not doing a single thing. Congrats lpaying protoss. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Predator_au
Australia93 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
yeah, but it's not my fault you can't understand. His very mindset that entertains us with BM is a clear indicator of mental blocks, which, beside causing BM, also tend to limit your growth. | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On December 13 2009 18:48 NicolBolas wrote: And yet in the midst of all of that... they still GG when they lose. It may be automatic, it may be a meaningless courtesy, but it is a courtesy nevertheless. Whatever their attitude may be, they do not send messages to their opponents praising themselves. And they never give excuses for a lost or denigrate an opponent for beating them. To me, it's the last part that's the worst for Idra. I can kinda understand Jaedong and Stork's mindset. I can see a pro player laughing at some crap-ass attempt to knock the master from his perch. I can understand psyching oneself up for battle by imagining killing your opponent. But when you lose a game, when you are beaten, you accept it. You don't make excuses. You don't denigrate your opponent. You accept that you lost. To do otherwise shows both an immaturity and an unwillingness to see reality for what it is, rather than what you would like it to be. Isn't that why Scrubs are hated so much? Because they put the blame on something other than themselves when they lose? "Oh, Mutalisks need to be nerfed." "Siege Tanks are too powerful." Etc. And isn't that attitude exactly why they don't improve? Because they're not willing to find the actual problem rather than inventing fictitious ones, they cannot see their faults for what they are and make them better. This guy is right. | ||
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Piste
6177 Posts
TSL.IdrA: isnt this funny TSL.IdrA: you won without doing a single thing TSL.IdrA has left the game kinda true tho. if zerg is just careful defending vs dropships and then turtles with swarm till 4gas economy and tech kicks in, how is terran supposed to win? hard map. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:19 Piste wrote: kinda true tho. if zerg is just careful defending vs dropships and then turtles with swarm till 4gas economy and tech kicks in, how is terran supposed to win? hard map. Most pro terrans would have beaten ret that game. There is a way to win. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:19 Piste wrote: kinda true tho. if zerg is just careful defending vs dropships and then turtles with swarm till 4gas economy and tech kicks in, how is terran supposed to win? hard map. I dunno dude that kinda sounds like doing things | ||
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Piste
6177 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:23 Camlito wrote: Most pro terrans would have beaten ret that game. There is a way to win. yes but most pro terrans are on a different skill level. | ||
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:27 Piste wrote: yes but most pro terrans are on a different skill level. yeh... if a terran improves his skill level, he can beat it? | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
I still think it was a really good game and its not easy as zerg to pull off such a defence. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:26 floor exercise wrote: I dunno dude that kinda sounds like doing things trust me, its not | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
On December 13 2009 18:48 NicolBolas wrote: And yet in the midst of all of that... they still GG when they lose. It may be automatic, it may be a meaningless courtesy, but it is a courtesy nevertheless. Whatever their attitude may be, they do not send messages to their opponents praising themselves. And they never give excuses for a lost or denigrate an opponent for beating them. To me, it's the last part that's the worst for Idra. I can kinda understand Jaedong and Stork's mindset. I can see a pro player laughing at some crap-ass attempt to knock the master from his perch. I can understand psyching oneself up for battle by imagining killing your opponent. But when you lose a game, when you are beaten, you accept it. You don't make excuses. You don't denigrate your opponent. You accept that you lost. To do otherwise shows both an immaturity and an unwillingness to see reality for what it is, rather than what you would like it to be. Isn't that why Scrubs are hated so much? Because they put the blame on something other than themselves when they lose? "Oh, Mutalisks need to be nerfed." "Siege Tanks are too powerful." Etc. And isn't that attitude exactly why they don't improve? Because they're not willing to find the actual problem rather than inventing fictitious ones, they cannot see their faults for what they are and make them better. thats because they're forced too. If they dont they'll get a penalty. Typing gg doesnt magically mean you accept you lost. You can type gg and still make excuses. In idra's games that were broadcasted he gged in the ones he lost. The progamers you respect for saying gg probably dont gg in practice games too. Look at some of the reps that were leaked. Half of the reps dont even have the loser gging. What you talking about progamers make excuses in interviews lots of times. Bisu blames the map in a lot of his interviews. I dont know where you people get the notion that all pros are gm and mature. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On December 13 2009 18:48 NicolBolas wrote: And yet in the midst of all of that... they still GG when they lose. It may be automatic, it may be a meaningless courtesy, but it is a courtesy nevertheless. Whatever their attitude may be, they do not send messages to their opponents praising themselves. And they never give excuses for a lost or denigrate an opponent for beating them. To me, it's the last part that's the worst for Idra. I can kinda understand Jaedong and Stork's mindset. I can see a pro player laughing at some crap-ass attempt to knock the master from his perch. I can understand psyching oneself up for battle by imagining killing your opponent. But when you lose a game, when you are beaten, you accept it. You don't make excuses. You don't denigrate your opponent. You accept that you lost. To do otherwise shows both an immaturity and an unwillingness to see reality for what it is, rather than what you would like it to be. Isn't that why Scrubs are hated so much? Because they put the blame on something other than themselves when they lose? "Oh, Mutalisks need to be nerfed." "Siege Tanks are too powerful." Etc. And isn't that attitude exactly why they don't improve? Because they're not willing to find the actual problem rather than inventing fictitious ones, they cannot see their faults for what they are and make them better. exactly what I said, but in different words. This very BM is the indicator that stuff in his head is not correctly arranged. The only reason you complain is because you believe there's something to complain about. If the top players truly believed there's something wrong about the game or their opponents, they'd all act like idra. This is not about self control. It's about seeing what is and what isn't. Idra is still refusing to claim the losses as his own; instead he's forwarding the blame on stuff outside his control and in a way martyring himself. It's not the road to success. | ||
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YoungModerN
Brazil389 Posts
if you dont know how to win that, dont cry and complait about it, learn to lose. I ask myselft why he didnt say to stork things like that when he lost to dt drop. i think its respect... that respect you earn young geek | ||
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DM20
Canada544 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:41 niteReloaded wrote: exactly what I said, but in different words. This very BM is the indicator that stuff in his head is not correctly arranged. The only reason you complain is because you believe there's something to complain about. If the top players truly believed there's something wrong about the game or their opponents, they'd all act like idra. This is not about self control. It's about seeing what is and what isn't. Idra is still refusing to claim the losses as his own; instead he's forwarding the blame on stuff outside his control and in a way martyring himself. It's not the road to success. Or maybe hes just frustrated from losing, people need to stop over analyzing this. | ||
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Piste
6177 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:31 Camlito wrote: yeh... if a terran improves his skill level, he can beat it? yes, if the zerg is at ret's level (still low vs most progamers) | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:41 niteReloaded wrote: exactly what I said, but in different words. This very BM is the indicator that stuff in his head is not correctly arranged. The only reason you complain is because you believe there's something to complain about. If the top players truly believed there's something wrong about the game or their opponents, they'd all act like idra. This is not about self control. It's about seeing what is and what isn't. Idra is still refusing to claim the losses as his own; instead he's forwarding the blame on stuff outside his control and in a way martyring himself. It's not the road to success. I've been thinking about that. I think Idra's problem is always the same one: he believes that the game is entirely mechanical: if you do what you are supposed to do, better than your opponent, you win. As he has better mechanics than others foreigners, he always think that there is something unfair when he loses. Remember his game versus F91. He explained afterward that F91 won because he was doing "stupid stuff": not going muta on Raid Assault, doing risky all in, etc... That's a serious misunderstanding. F91 outplayed him. Not by his knowledge of the game, not by his mechanics, but by the gambling part, the psychology, the bet. For Idra all this part of the game doesn't have any value. Problem is, to be really good, you need both. Game sense, imagination, psychology etc... and mechanics, pure knowledge of what is the most efficient. Idra is the most conformist player ever. That's it. | ||
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NFL2368
United States112 Posts
BM vs GM Unless of course you count FBH vs sAviOr, in which case it doesn't really count as a rivalry because they never meet in finals | ||
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GW.Methos
United States249 Posts
On December 13 2009 02:24 Navane wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=ret ret encountered idra on msn after some trash talk, ret offered idra a game.. GOGO IDRA! | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 13 2009 23:55 DM20 wrote: Or maybe hes just frustrated from losing, people need to stop over analyzing this. Fzero is right, and you may say "they still gg" but you alsof orget this is a fucking kespa rule so tehy have to | ||
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machinehead..
412 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
On December 14 2009 01:11 NFL2368 wrote: It's sad that koreans don't really have an idra vs ret equivalent isn't it? BM vs GM Unless of course you count FBH vs sAviOr, in which case it doesn't really count as a rivalry because they never meet in finals best vs go.go. seems like a pretty good paralell. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
1. Terrans can stop additional expos, and limit Zerg to 2-3 gas. 2. Swarm doesn't protect buildings so you can siege those. Plus splash will slowly dmg units. 3. Irradiate can take out lurkers under swarm. 4. Firebats can mop up lings under swarm. 5. Zerg are not immune to drops, esp. dropships with dmatrix. 6. Terrans can expand/tech at the same time as Zerg. 7. Camping allows terrans map control with tank, vultures, silos, and mines. | ||
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
On December 14 2009 01:46 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: best vs go.go. seems like a pretty good paralell. They're not the best, and it's one-sided now. Also, BeSt's counter-ceremony was brutal. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On December 14 2009 02:48 cakemanofdoom wrote: They're not the best, and it's one-sided now. Also, BeSt's counter-ceremony was brutal. Could you link a VOD to me please? | ||
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Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On December 14 2009 03:48 Sabu113 wrote: I can't believe most of you havn't BMed a friend after a close match. This totally happens all the time... just think about the last time you played Halo or another competitive game. -.- You BS your friend. What about Idra's comments after he lost to F91? I mean, I'm a fan of Idra, but you can't say he doesn't act like a whiny little kid. Some pre-game or in-game trash talk is great, but most people don't respect those who whine after they lose. Personally I think it's amusing but not everyone will be amused. | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
On December 13 2009 18:16 HeavOnEarth wrote: imo any games after then 10 minute mark favor the better player + Show Spoiler + http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/290667/1x1.html therefore, it wasnt completely out of his control so wouldn't pretending it was just hurt him later on? Any game favors the better player... | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:11 selboN wrote: IdrA is the bomb. the BM bomb :p im not sure if this was set up or not b/c the interview with artosis.. they seemed really friendly with each other, and it would ONLY MAKE SENSE to build up the anticipation/crowd of seeing them in the finals = more profit/recognition? | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
Idra is normally decent manner against Ret. You people are making waaay to much of this. Like you're calling Idra a whining kid when you're all sitting in an internet forum making fun of some teenager who most of you haven't spoken too... | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:23 Piy wrote: Idra was angry because he should by rights have won that game. He majorly messed up twice in the late game and got frustrated and rage quitted. Idra is normally decent manner against Ret. You people are making waaay to much of this. Like you're calling Idra a whining kid when you're all sitting in an internet forum making fun of some teenager who most of you haven't spoken too... No, a lot of us just generally dislike Idra because despite the fact that he is a very good starcraft player he's terribly bad mannered and just plain arrogant half the time. Because he has fast hands he thinks his shit doesn't stink, so to speak. | ||
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Sadist
United States7228 Posts
On December 14 2009 02:47 Qwertify wrote: I don't get it. Zerg can't just camp until they get 4 gas. 1. Terrans can stop additional expos, and limit Zerg to 2-3 gas. 2. Swarm doesn't protect buildings so you can siege those. Plus splash will slowly dmg units. 3. Irradiate can take out lurkers under swarm. 4. Firebats can mop up lings under swarm. 5. Zerg are not immune to drops, esp. dropships with dmatrix. 6. Terrans can expand/tech at the same time as Zerg. 7. Camping allows terrans map control with tank, vultures, silos, and mines. problem is when you are making d ships you arent making vessels which are essential to defending/attacking vs hive. Expansions for terran are also incredibly hard to hold. Basically to defeat hive you have to never lose map control because the minute you do its game over ;\ | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
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ZaDeX
Venezuela27 Posts
idra gm = no funny T.T | ||
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malathion
United States361 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:48 Sadist wrote: problem is when you are making d ships you arent making vessels which are essential to defending/attacking vs hive. Expansions for terran are also incredibly hard to hold. Basically to defeat hive you have to never lose map control because the minute you do its game over ;\ Lol its hilarious that terrans here are whining about TvZ imbalance | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:48 Sadist wrote: problem is when you are making d ships you arent making vessels which are essential to defending/attacking vs hive. Expansions for terran are also incredibly hard to hold. Basically to defeat hive you have to never lose map control because the minute you do its game over ;\ as long as you defend your vessels you don't need to have constant production of additional ones. vessel+dropship warrs! | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Idra will never be something big partly due to korean pro gaming being so highly evolved compared back to Giyom times partly due to not being able to accept a lose and always searching stupid excuses.. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
do you play starcraft? obv i meant any disadvantage he could have had , after the 10 min mark is probably nothing substantial, stop taking my post out of context | ||
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YoungModerN
Brazil389 Posts
On December 14 2009 08:39 MaGic~PhiL wrote: its all about skill Idra will never be something big partly due to korean pro gaming being so highly evolved compared back to Giyom times partly due to not being able to accept a lose and always searching stupid excuses.. You said everything. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On December 14 2009 08:39 MaGic~PhiL wrote: its all about skill Idra will never be something big partly due to korean pro gaming being so highly evolved compared back to Giyom times partly due to not being able to accept a lose and always searching stupid excuses.. Yet he makes more money than most of the progamers. Say he wins this 10k dollars. Add this with that ~7k he already made this year. I'd say it's quite a good salary for playing a game and talking shit to whoever you want, cuz you had the opportunity and time to benefit from a professional enviroment, while others did not. | ||
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RemYnisce
United States24 Posts
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n3m0
Portugal247 Posts
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hixhix
1156 Posts
On December 14 2009 08:39 MaGic~PhiL wrote: its all about skill Idra will never be something big partly due to korean pro gaming being so highly evolved compared back to Giyom times partly due to not being able to accept a lose and always searching stupid excuses.. this, and partly due to him being a non-creative robotic player. It gets him no where. On December 15 2009 06:45 Geo.Rion wrote: Yet he makes more money than most of the progamers. Say he wins this 10k dollars. Add this with that ~7k he already made this year. I'd say it's quite a good salary for playing a game and talking shit to whoever you want, cuz you had the opportunity and time to benefit from a professional enviroment, while others did not. Labor job in US makes much more than 10k. If you argue that he goes to Korea cause playing sc is fun and being a progamer is his dream, then absolutely fine. But if you argue he's making good money, that's really really really sad. | ||
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FreshNoThyme
United States356 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On December 14 2009 04:55 GogoKodo wrote: I don't take Idra's bm so seriously, to me he plays it up a little. Takes his natural affinity to be bm and picks it up a little to rile people up. He's the Starcraft equivalent of a "heel" type of person in entertainment wrestling. The heel, the guy you love to hate. Completely agree, lots of people here are getting way too worked up. Just because idra gets a bit angry when he loses and is slightly BM doesn't mean that he's a complete asshole and can't accept a loss and will never amount to anything. Did FBH and oov ever amount to anything? They sure fucking did. | ||
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UGC4
Peru532 Posts
On December 15 2009 07:01 hixhix wrote: this, and partly due to him being a non-creative robotic player. It gets him no where. Labor job in US makes much more than 10k. If you argue that he goes to Korea cause playing sc is fun and being a progamer is his dream, then absolutely fine. But if you argue he's making good money, that's really really really sad. correct me if im wrong but $17,000 in a year cannot be that bad for a young adult in south korea? whom is already provided for with food and housing? yah...he's certainly making more money than by working at publix lol | ||
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UGC4
Peru532 Posts
On December 15 2009 18:46 RANDOMCL wrote: If anyone his age is making under $40,000-45,000 in the U.S., they did something wrong with their life. I don't put a large emphasis on monetary gain in life, but it is required in order to obtain the life I desire, so I deal with it. Is he doing better than the people playing 5-10 hours a day, making no money? Yeah. But is he a mega pasty with a chip on his shoulder? Yeah, he is. I don't mind his attitude; I find it hilarious. Regardless, he is still completely delusional. dude. he is 19. and he is not living in the US. -_- | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On December 15 2009 07:01 hixhix wrote: this, and partly due to him being a non-creative robotic player. It gets him no where. Labor job in US makes much more than 10k. If you argue that he goes to Korea cause playing sc is fun and being a progamer is his dream, then absolutely fine. But if you argue he's making good money, that's really really really sad. I'd say 17k for a year is good, even in the US, if you take into account that you're job is your hobby. And my point was that even though there are a ton of progamers better than him, he still earns more than them, or those foreginers who spend almost that much time, but in a less competitive enviroment (even though they might be more "talented" meaning they were better when they had the same conditions.) | ||
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eborp
United States266 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On December 15 2009 18:46 RANDOMCL wrote: If anyone his age is making under $40,000-45,000 in the U.S., they did something wrong with their life. I don't put a large emphasis on monetary gain in life, but it is required in order to obtain the life I desire, so I deal with it. Is he doing better than the people playing 5-10 hours a day, making no money? Yeah. But is he a mega pasty with a chip on his shoulder? Yeah, he is. I don't mind his attitude; I find it hilarious. Regardless, he is still completely delusional. You're right, if anyone 19 makes under $40,000 in the US they did something wrong with their life... oh wait that makes no sense. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Frits
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
On December 16 2009 01:40 Frits wrote: if you work full time at age 19 your life blows QFT | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On December 15 2009 18:46 RANDOMCL wrote: If anyone his age is making under $40,000-45,000 in the U.S., they did something wrong with their life. I don't put a large emphasis on monetary gain in life, but it is required in order to obtain the life I desire, so I deal with it. Is he doing better than the people playing 5-10 hours a day, making no money? Yeah. But is he a mega pasty with a chip on his shoulder? Yeah, he is. I don't mind his attitude; I find it hilarious. Regardless, he is still completely delusional. lol If anything, you're delusional. | ||
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Pawsom
United States928 Posts
On December 15 2009 18:46 RANDOMCL wrote: If anyone his age is making under $40,000-45,000 in the U.S., they did something wrong with their life. I don't put a large emphasis on monetary gain in life, but it is required in order to obtain the life I desire, so I deal with it. Is he doing better than the people playing 5-10 hours a day, making no money? Yeah. But is he a mega pasty with a chip on his shoulder? Yeah, he is. I don't mind his attitude; I find it hilarious. Regardless, he is still completely delusional. O_o clearly .... Do you realize how difficult it can be to improve your socioeconomic status when coming from an extremely low income household? There are absolutely brilliant individuals that are stuck in a poor, urban environment meant, and they will never have the chance to break free. This type of ignorant, self righteous attitude really upsets me. Judging people based on their income(and that is what you're doing) is just as bad as judging someone based on race, or sexual orientation etc. As for the game, well played by both sides! Another gem inspired by TSL (<3 TSL!!) | ||
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
average income usa wide is like 30k as far as i know. As far as average income of my peers, i'm pretty sure absolutely not a single one of them makes more than 20k a year, in fact i'm pretty sure i'm the only person I know within a 6 year +/- of my age that has made more than than 25k in a year and I know loads of people. | ||
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NiGoL
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SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
On December 15 2009 18:46 RANDOMCL wrote: If anyone his age is making under $40,000-45,000 in the U.S., they did something wrong with their life. I don't put a large emphasis on monetary gain in life, but it is required in order to obtain the life I desire, so I deal with it. Is he doing better than the people playing 5-10 hours a day, making no money? Yeah. But is he a mega pasty with a chip on his shoulder? Yeah, he is. I don't mind his attitude; I find it hilarious. Regardless, he is still completely delusional. sounds like someone's mad he's not living his dream like Idra | ||
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zergpower123
United States197 Posts
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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stevethemacguy
United States137 Posts
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GW.Methos
United States249 Posts
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GW.Methos
United States249 Posts
On December 17 2009 06:27 zergpower123 wrote: Found this on the Ret facebook fan page OMFG XD | ||
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
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zergpower123
United States197 Posts
Nalrawr, the video is posted on page 9 or 10. Go dl it!!! | ||
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FreshNoThyme
United States356 Posts
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