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[Interview] Avalon MSL Final Winner's Interview - Page 2

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saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 30 2009 17:27 GMT
#21
Nice interview, grats Calm =).
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
August 30 2009 17:39 GMT
#22
Good for Calm. It was an impressive MSL run although playing Kwanro was pretty dissapointing. I look forward to seeing him play next season. I hope he continues to dominate and not go into a slump like luxury.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 30 2009 17:41 GMT
#23
Calm is very likable, great interview. Didn't know Tosky was his brother.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 30 2009 17:57 GMT
#24
I'm so glad Calm won. After beating Jaedong and Effort it would have been so disappointing if he lost.

Great interview, didn't know Tosky was his brother either.
this is my quote.
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-30 22:19:27
August 30 2009 22:18 GMT
#25
i watched this live! and i must say they were entertaining games. Calm is kinda like the Fantasy of zerg. he uses his head.
edit: yay my 123 post ! XD
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8142 Posts
August 30 2009 22:22 GMT
#26
thanks for the interview!

im so happy calm won :D

cant wait to see him tear it up next season
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-31 00:39:08
August 31 2009 00:38 GMT
#27
On August 31 2009 00:45 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2009 23:51 Plexa wrote:
On August 30 2009 22:32 JWD wrote:
Thanks for the translation ghostWriter. This answer confirms PL's utter dominance right now:

On August 30 2009 22:16 Calm wrote:
-How will you prepare for the next season?
▲The proleague is always number one in priority. Our team has never been able to win in the proleague before so this season, we will focus completely on it. However, I think that we will be able to have a decent showing in the individual leagues, even if we have to prepare in our spare time.

The OSL and MSL just don't mean what they used to.

Only when the camera is watching JWD!
It has always been my dream to ascend onto the stage for the finals. I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality and to actually win this tournament.

You can easily say the same for that second quote...of course Calm is going to say it was his dream to win the tournament he just won. But a statement like "The Proleague is always number one in priority," especially because it wasn't in response to a leading question, is hard to interpret as pandering to "the camera" rather than fact.


Haha are you serious JWD?

You compare a statement like "it has always been my dream ... I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality" to a workmanlike company-line statement of "The Proleague is always number one in priority" and you find it hard to interpret that as pandering to the camera?

Given that players are on teams, are paid by teams, and team success gives glory even to their lesser teammates, players have VERY LITTLE incentive to make public statements that waver from the company line.

Ever heard a pro athlete say something like "I don't care about my stats, I just care about winning?" Let's just say they don't always mean it....

You are correct that PL has increased in significance by A TON though, of course.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
August 31 2009 01:53 GMT
#28
So glad Calm won, he had by far the hardest route to the finals and he absolutely decimated the best competition in this tournament. Of course the quality of the finals suffered somewhat, since Calm had already crushed the people that mattered in the quarter- and semi-finals.

Calm really is a cerebral player, which is very evident all the way from his builds down to his mid-game decisions. It is not uncommon to see him deviate suddenly from a pre-planned build to capitalize off an incredibly minor shift in momentum, where most players would just continue on the route they were taking previously. You see this all the time in his ZvZ decision making. Watch him repel an attack - he will never, EVER just resume his previous build, even if he has a slight advantage from winning the fight; instead, he will shift his production, flip tech slightly, add a hatchery in a weird location, SOMETHING to change the dynamic of the fight. He always keeps the opponent anxious and never lets them exploit old information, since his gameplan is so fluid.

I've only started to follow Calm fairly recently but his in-game decision-making is virtually unmatched.
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ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
August 31 2009 01:58 GMT
#29
Does this mean Calm will get that Pink song "you and your hand tonight!!! Yeah!!" as his theme song like forGG with pretender?
Wake up Mr. B!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 31 2009 02:00 GMT
#30
On August 31 2009 09:38 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2009 00:45 JWD wrote:
On August 30 2009 23:51 Plexa wrote:
On August 30 2009 22:32 JWD wrote:
Thanks for the translation ghostWriter. This answer confirms PL's utter dominance right now:

On August 30 2009 22:16 Calm wrote:
-How will you prepare for the next season?
▲The proleague is always number one in priority. Our team has never been able to win in the proleague before so this season, we will focus completely on it. However, I think that we will be able to have a decent showing in the individual leagues, even if we have to prepare in our spare time.

The OSL and MSL just don't mean what they used to.

Only when the camera is watching JWD!
It has always been my dream to ascend onto the stage for the finals. I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality and to actually win this tournament.

You can easily say the same for that second quote...of course Calm is going to say it was his dream to win the tournament he just won. But a statement like "The Proleague is always number one in priority," especially because it wasn't in response to a leading question, is hard to interpret as pandering to "the camera" rather than fact.


Haha are you serious JWD?

You compare a statement like "it has always been my dream ... I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality" to a workmanlike company-line statement of "The Proleague is always number one in priority" and you find it hard to interpret that as pandering to the camera?

Given that players are on teams, are paid by teams, and team success gives glory even to their lesser teammates, players have VERY LITTLE incentive to make public statements that waver from the company line.

Ever heard a pro athlete say something like "I don't care about my stats, I just care about winning?" Let's just say they don't always mean it....

You are correct that PL has increased in significance by A TON though, of course.

Maybe their care about individual leagues more, and I do think so as well. But, if it's an important proleague game vs an important individual game, which one will they practice for? Coaches oversee the players, right? So they will probably practice mostly for the proleague game.
Jaedong
Weavile
Profile Joined September 2008
United States97 Posts
August 31 2009 02:04 GMT
#31
I'm glad Zero practiced with calm, maybe he picked up a few tricks to make his own zvz look less horrible as it has been lately.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-31 02:21:45
August 31 2009 02:20 GMT
#32
On August 31 2009 11:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2009 09:38 darktreb wrote:
On August 31 2009 00:45 JWD wrote:
On August 30 2009 23:51 Plexa wrote:
On August 30 2009 22:32 JWD wrote:
Thanks for the translation ghostWriter. This answer confirms PL's utter dominance right now:

On August 30 2009 22:16 Calm wrote:
-How will you prepare for the next season?
▲The proleague is always number one in priority. Our team has never been able to win in the proleague before so this season, we will focus completely on it. However, I think that we will be able to have a decent showing in the individual leagues, even if we have to prepare in our spare time.

The OSL and MSL just don't mean what they used to.

Only when the camera is watching JWD!
It has always been my dream to ascend onto the stage for the finals. I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality and to actually win this tournament.

You can easily say the same for that second quote...of course Calm is going to say it was his dream to win the tournament he just won. But a statement like "The Proleague is always number one in priority," especially because it wasn't in response to a leading question, is hard to interpret as pandering to "the camera" rather than fact.


Haha are you serious JWD?

You compare a statement like "it has always been my dream ... I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality" to a workmanlike company-line statement of "The Proleague is always number one in priority" and you find it hard to interpret that as pandering to the camera?

Given that players are on teams, are paid by teams, and team success gives glory even to their lesser teammates, players have VERY LITTLE incentive to make public statements that waver from the company line.

Ever heard a pro athlete say something like "I don't care about my stats, I just care about winning?" Let's just say they don't always mean it....

You are correct that PL has increased in significance by A TON though, of course.

Maybe their care about individual leagues more, and I do think so as well. But, if it's an important proleague game vs an important individual game, which one will they practice for? Coaches oversee the players, right? So they will probably practice mostly for the proleague game.


I'm not saying the newfound importance of proleague has no effect on how much players can prepare for individual leagues. It's definitely going to have a negative impact (which may be what JWD was getting at, in which case he is right).

All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, if you put a gun to a player's head and said "you get to choose only one - starleague title or proleague title and no one will ever know you made this choice", I'm betting they'd all still pick starleague title, and the way Calm described his feelings about winning just reinforced that.

So yeah, I don't think we're really disagreeing about anything =)
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 31 2009 02:26 GMT
#33
Thanks for this interview, I'll take back what I said earlier about Calm in the MSL thread, he's definitely one of the top zergs, and hopefully Swarm Season sticks around for next PL. Hope he doesn't spiral like Luxury did after he won his MSL though. Grats Calm!
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 31 2009 02:27 GMT
#34
Strangest finals I ever forgot to watch (oops.) I don't really like Calm, but congratulations to him all the same.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 31 2009 03:03 GMT
#35
Calm's games are very impressive and creative. Congratulations on winning the MSL!
Brood War loyalist
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 31 2009 03:06 GMT
#36
On August 31 2009 11:20 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2009 11:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On August 31 2009 09:38 darktreb wrote:
On August 31 2009 00:45 JWD wrote:
On August 30 2009 23:51 Plexa wrote:
On August 30 2009 22:32 JWD wrote:
Thanks for the translation ghostWriter. This answer confirms PL's utter dominance right now:

On August 30 2009 22:16 Calm wrote:
-How will you prepare for the next season?
▲The proleague is always number one in priority. Our team has never been able to win in the proleague before so this season, we will focus completely on it. However, I think that we will be able to have a decent showing in the individual leagues, even if we have to prepare in our spare time.

The OSL and MSL just don't mean what they used to.

Only when the camera is watching JWD!
It has always been my dream to ascend onto the stage for the finals. I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality and to actually win this tournament.

You can easily say the same for that second quote...of course Calm is going to say it was his dream to win the tournament he just won. But a statement like "The Proleague is always number one in priority," especially because it wasn't in response to a leading question, is hard to interpret as pandering to "the camera" rather than fact.


Haha are you serious JWD?

You compare a statement like "it has always been my dream ... I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality" to a workmanlike company-line statement of "The Proleague is always number one in priority" and you find it hard to interpret that as pandering to the camera?

Given that players are on teams, are paid by teams, and team success gives glory even to their lesser teammates, players have VERY LITTLE incentive to make public statements that waver from the company line.

Ever heard a pro athlete say something like "I don't care about my stats, I just care about winning?" Let's just say they don't always mean it....

You are correct that PL has increased in significance by A TON though, of course.

Maybe their care about individual leagues more, and I do think so as well. But, if it's an important proleague game vs an important individual game, which one will they practice for? Coaches oversee the players, right? So they will probably practice mostly for the proleague game.


I'm not saying the newfound importance of proleague has no effect on how much players can prepare for individual leagues. It's definitely going to have a negative impact (which may be what JWD was getting at, in which case he is right).

All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, if you put a gun to a player's head and said "you get to choose only one - starleague title or proleague title and no one will ever know you made this choice", I'm betting they'd all still pick starleague title, and the way Calm described his feelings about winning just reinforced that.

So yeah, I don't think we're really disagreeing about anything =)



In their interviews, from what I've seen, they seem to say that they have to prioritize and put proleague first and practice for individual leagues in their spare time. Of course they want to win the titles, but they're a part of a team and they can't let their own ambition take precedence over their obligations to the team.
Sullifam
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
August 31 2009 05:52 GMT
#37
kwanro sucks so bad.
555, kthxbai
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
August 31 2009 17:41 GMT
#38
I had no idea ToSky was his older brother.
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FakeKisser
Profile Joined September 2008
United States159 Posts
September 11 2009 15:43 GMT
#39
Great interview! Calm seems like a nice kid. I think using ZerO as a practice partner was smart and probably played a pretty big part in Calm's success.
"Every generation needs a revolution" - Thomas Jefferson
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
September 11 2009 16:22 GMT
#40
On August 31 2009 10:53 tedster wrote:
Calm really is a cerebral player, which is very evident all the way from his builds down to his mid-game decisions. It is not uncommon to see him deviate suddenly from a pre-planned build to capitalize off an incredibly minor shift in momentum, where most players would just continue on the route they were taking previously. You see this all the time in his ZvZ decision making. Watch him repel an attack - he will never, EVER just resume his previous build, even if he has a slight advantage from winning the fight; instead, he will shift his production, flip tech slightly, add a hatchery in a weird location, SOMETHING to change the dynamic of the fight. He always keeps the opponent anxious and never lets them exploit old information, since his gameplan is so fluid.

I've only started to follow Calm fairly recently but his in-game decision-making is virtually unmatched.

That's a good point. What impresses me even more is that he does it the other way, too: he isn't afraid to deviate from his build when he has the disadvantage. Although that may not sound like a big deal, so many pros seem too stubborn or afraid to accept a slight disadvantage in order to stay in the game. Say it's 9-pool vs. 12-hatch; rather than cancel the hatchery and keep playing with a disadvantage, they'll let it complete and play at a much greater short-term disadvantage in the hopes that they can somehow hold off the attack and come out with the eventual edge; it rarely works. Calm just does whatever he has to in a given situation: he'll add a sunken or a spore if he needs to; he canceled hatcheries twice against Kwanro.

As you say, although his builds are clever, Calm's flexibility is probably his greatest strength right now.
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