EPT[Interview] Avalon MSL Final Winner's Interview - Page 2
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saikeraku
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uglymoose89
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Pufftrees
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Ozarugold
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Great interview, didn't know Tosky was his brother either. | ||
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Sharp-eYe
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edit: yay my 123 post ! XD | ||
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Ideas
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im so happy calm won :D cant wait to see him tear it up next season | ||
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darktreb
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On August 31 2009 00:45 JWD wrote: You can easily say the same for that second quote...of course Calm is going to say it was his dream to win the tournament he just won. But a statement like "The Proleague is always number one in priority," especially because it wasn't in response to a leading question, is hard to interpret as pandering to "the camera" rather than fact. Haha are you serious JWD? You compare a statement like "it has always been my dream ... I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality" to a workmanlike company-line statement of "The Proleague is always number one in priority" and you find it hard to interpret that as pandering to the camera? Given that players are on teams, are paid by teams, and team success gives glory even to their lesser teammates, players have VERY LITTLE incentive to make public statements that waver from the company line. Ever heard a pro athlete say something like "I don't care about my stats, I just care about winning?" Let's just say they don't always mean it.... You are correct that PL has increased in significance by A TON though, of course. | ||
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tedster
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Calm really is a cerebral player, which is very evident all the way from his builds down to his mid-game decisions. It is not uncommon to see him deviate suddenly from a pre-planned build to capitalize off an incredibly minor shift in momentum, where most players would just continue on the route they were taking previously. You see this all the time in his ZvZ decision making. Watch him repel an attack - he will never, EVER just resume his previous build, even if he has a slight advantage from winning the fight; instead, he will shift his production, flip tech slightly, add a hatchery in a weird location, SOMETHING to change the dynamic of the fight. He always keeps the opponent anxious and never lets them exploit old information, since his gameplan is so fluid. I've only started to follow Calm fairly recently but his in-game decision-making is virtually unmatched. | ||
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ccou
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Avidkeystamper
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On August 31 2009 09:38 darktreb wrote: Haha are you serious JWD? You compare a statement like "it has always been my dream ... I am thrilled at having my dream turned into reality" to a workmanlike company-line statement of "The Proleague is always number one in priority" and you find it hard to interpret that as pandering to the camera? Given that players are on teams, are paid by teams, and team success gives glory even to their lesser teammates, players have VERY LITTLE incentive to make public statements that waver from the company line. Ever heard a pro athlete say something like "I don't care about my stats, I just care about winning?" Let's just say they don't always mean it.... You are correct that PL has increased in significance by A TON though, of course. Maybe their care about individual leagues more, and I do think so as well. But, if it's an important proleague game vs an important individual game, which one will they practice for? Coaches oversee the players, right? So they will probably practice mostly for the proleague game. | ||
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Weavile
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darktreb
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On August 31 2009 11:00 Avidkeystamper wrote: Maybe their care about individual leagues more, and I do think so as well. But, if it's an important proleague game vs an important individual game, which one will they practice for? Coaches oversee the players, right? So they will probably practice mostly for the proleague game. I'm not saying the newfound importance of proleague has no effect on how much players can prepare for individual leagues. It's definitely going to have a negative impact (which may be what JWD was getting at, in which case he is right). All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, if you put a gun to a player's head and said "you get to choose only one - starleague title or proleague title and no one will ever know you made this choice", I'm betting they'd all still pick starleague title, and the way Calm described his feelings about winning just reinforced that. So yeah, I don't think we're really disagreeing about anything =) | ||
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NeverGG
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meegrean
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ghostWriter
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On August 31 2009 11:20 darktreb wrote: I'm not saying the newfound importance of proleague has no effect on how much players can prepare for individual leagues. It's definitely going to have a negative impact (which may be what JWD was getting at, in which case he is right). All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, if you put a gun to a player's head and said "you get to choose only one - starleague title or proleague title and no one will ever know you made this choice", I'm betting they'd all still pick starleague title, and the way Calm described his feelings about winning just reinforced that. So yeah, I don't think we're really disagreeing about anything =) In their interviews, from what I've seen, they seem to say that they have to prioritize and put proleague first and practice for individual leagues in their spare time. Of course they want to win the titles, but they're a part of a team and they can't let their own ambition take precedence over their obligations to the team. | ||
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FakeKisser
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qrs
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On August 31 2009 10:53 tedster wrote: Calm really is a cerebral player, which is very evident all the way from his builds down to his mid-game decisions. It is not uncommon to see him deviate suddenly from a pre-planned build to capitalize off an incredibly minor shift in momentum, where most players would just continue on the route they were taking previously. You see this all the time in his ZvZ decision making. Watch him repel an attack - he will never, EVER just resume his previous build, even if he has a slight advantage from winning the fight; instead, he will shift his production, flip tech slightly, add a hatchery in a weird location, SOMETHING to change the dynamic of the fight. He always keeps the opponent anxious and never lets them exploit old information, since his gameplan is so fluid. I've only started to follow Calm fairly recently but his in-game decision-making is virtually unmatched. That's a good point. What impresses me even more is that he does it the other way, too: he isn't afraid to deviate from his build when he has the disadvantage. Although that may not sound like a big deal, so many pros seem too stubborn or afraid to accept a slight disadvantage in order to stay in the game. Say it's 9-pool vs. 12-hatch; rather than cancel the hatchery and keep playing with a disadvantage, they'll let it complete and play at a much greater short-term disadvantage in the hopes that they can somehow hold off the attack and come out with the eventual edge; it rarely works. Calm just does whatever he has to in a given situation: he'll add a sunken or a spore if he needs to; he canceled hatcheries twice against Kwanro. As you say, although his builds are clever, Calm's flexibility is probably his greatest strength right now. | ||
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