Starcraft Players - Accomplishments, info - Page 2

On November 04 2005 10:20 collegeBored wrote:
the next sc commentator (im hoping its not whacksteven) should read this and memorize it.

On November 04 2005 10:28 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I'm hoping that is why bunny asked this (ie I hope she'll cast SC sometime ).

On November 04 2005 09:32 sundance wrote:
2nd KPGA Tour was the first starleague (yes it was starleague) that nada have won.

On November 04 2005 10:47 pubbanana wrote:
Just some random information:

Yellow actually did win a Starleague, he beat NaDa in the finals of the Challenger Open Starleague on GhemTV (I don't remember exactly when this was, but it was shortly after their return from ClikArena in France)

SKELTON was also a champion in Atrox and Jurassic War along with Kingdom Under Fire, WarCraft III, and StarCraft

[z-zone]Byun is now the coach of the PLUS Proteam

Some of Nal_rA's nicknames are Field of Flowers Toss and Dreamer Toss

The event where Grrr made the finals was the 99 Seoul Cup Tournament where he lost to October, he wasn't in the [Oops] guild

Kyo[3.33] is also TheRock[3.33]

I think you should mention Oddysay, St.Eagle, JinNam, some other less famous players who did alot to develop how people played the game. Personally, I think Lee Ki Seok (SSamJang? SamJJang?) does deserve a place here even if few people remember him

I haven't finished reading it, but if I think of anything else, I'll try to help add to the article

On November 04 2005 11:06 pubbanana wrote:
By the way FA, do you remember when you said you were looking for a 2 hour VOD?
I think I've found it, but I can't remember the description you gave
Please remind me T_T

On November 04 2005 11:45 pubbanana wrote:
The difference between SSamJang and [B_Blade]Leader and TheBoy and Honest and all of the other old progamers is that SSamJang made the game alot more popular in general. He was the one who showed the world that Terran could be played at a high level at a time when everyone considered it to be the weakest race. He was also the first progamer to get his own commercial on TV, and to appear on various game shows doing commentaries and such. He really was the first superstar of progaming. He was also the first to publish his own book about SC, even before Boxer and the one written by NaDa, TheMarine, and JinNam

On November 04 2005 11:35 Raidern wrote:
great stuff
this should be included NOW at the articles section

just to correct something: elky nuked v-gundam at the group stage, as he (gundam) never made it out of his group. He came in 3rd, losing to naz and elky. That rep was never released though.

On a side note, that was a really tough group, take a look:
v-gundam, elky, nazgul, fisheye, tomson and alejandro_mx

of course some of these players skills were different at the time, with naz rulling it out and elky at his pick, but if you put them at the their best skills in a group today, great games should come out of it

On November 04 2005 11:38 SuperJongMan wrote:
I don think ssamjang neesd to be mentioned honestly. Or else u gotta do shit like B-Blade Leader and TheBoy.. who all despite being great players, really don't have much of an influence today... not like the other old players u named.

Also, you only have 3 or so zergs still playing... but my fanboyism says put in Jju! Father of the drone, sunken whore-ism just like most GsP zergs (Gyuntae comes to mind especially, TheWind too, and chojja's an exception) and placed 4th in an OGN right? He played fackin hot that year though...

If I remember correctly (high chances I wont, Im really high right now) but Byun was infamous for 3 hatch power hydra play wasn't he? He played vs Grrr in that invitational to China or Taiwan or something and I'm pretty sure he walked up and down Grrr when Grr was considered premier toss... then had to go to army to the dismay of Korean zerg fanboys everywhere...

Oh god... I can feel my age in this community.. T.T

On November 04 2005 13:00 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:
Very nice - how about the pre-Grrr... era though? Possibly in a section together - as you do list other "retired" players who changed the game.

Maynard - The first player to truly understand the concept of "macro" at this game from what I can remember. Invented the famous "Maynard" transfer - and was regarded as the undisputed best player in the game shortly after its release. I think I even heard he used to win 1vs2 against other players considered "good" at the time.

d23-Gadianator (spelling?) - I believe won SC:BW PGL Season 3. Did it being completely random (partly in an attempt to prove SC was balanced), and using many offensive "cheese" strats (including offensive bunkering). Was said to have incredibly fast mouse speed by those who watched him play at the time. Eventually Logitech even released a gaming mouse "endorsed" by him. Quit serious SC:BW gaming shortly after the above.

Of course, those are only two examples - but there are other arguables (Zileas, credited with perfecting reaver dropping, used scouts(!) sometimes PvZ on Dire Straits to great success, and was later hired by Blizzard. Pillars, who played professionally in Korea for ~3 months, was highly regarded worldwide for intelligent play, and won the WCGC 2000 USA WCG Qualifier in NYC, but could not take time off from college to attend. d22-soso won the a Blizzard sponsered ladder tournament for a few thousand dollars, as well as many other high placements in other events. Etc).

Without replays, knowledge of how they played is admittedly sketchy though. Excluding one PGL game against Pillars, I myself only had multiple games against "great but sub-best" players like {PH}Jester, Sindread, and Kain-The-Feared back then - so the above information is also 3rd hand from others/stuff I read back then. Perhaps some other old-school player might have more knowledge on them?