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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-06 09:47:25
February 25 2003 07:52 GMT
#1
[WARNING! THE FOLLOWING IS AN UNPAID COMMERCIAL PRESENTATION FOR TEAMLIQUID.NET'S LIQUIBET. PARENTAL DISCRETION IS ADVISED.]

Tired of having ZERO respect in the SC/BW community? Are you laughed at all the time just because you think 9 pool means building nine spawning pools? Do you stay up nights thinking that, someday, with a little planning, effort and luck, you might finally get your Gamei score to exceed your IQ score? Do you silently wish that one day you'll ask NTT for a game and he'll respond "Sure, friend, anything for you..."? Can you picture yourself showing up at Rekrul's private channel and not have him ban you and all your relatives from his channel for life?

If you said "YES" to all of the above - check yourself into the nearest mental institution. We can't help you.

But, if you said "YES" to only most of them, well you're in luck! Introducing Liquibet, the coolest, sharpest, kick-assest no frills, no gimmicks SC/BW theorycraft ladder on the planet! [EDIT: Uhm, actually it's the ONLY SC/BW theorycraft ladder on the planet...]. No endless mouse clicks involved! No ripping out "unnecessary" keys on your keyboard needed! No hours of practice required! Just correctly pick the winners in pro gaming matches and watch as your Liquibet rating goes through the proverbial roof! You'll have girls breaking down your door, people calling you "Sir" and guys named Dan kissing your ass in no time!

Here's how it works:

1) Each Liquibet Ladder "season" will be comprised of a single season of the OnGameNet leagues (ie Challenge league, Duel Tournament and Starleague), the KPGA league and all Liquibition and Liquid tournaments in between. The whole thing should last approx 4 months altogether. Please, note tho that we may decide sometime in the future to include additional tournaments in the Liquibet Ladder, but for now this is it. (Sorry, Rek, can't include your "Dan's Two-Player SC Invitational.")

2) Point your mouse to this site's Liquibet section and start picking the winners for the upcoming matches. The more winners you correctly pick in advance, the higher your Liquibet Ladder score gets. It's so simple even Bush can't get it wrong!

3) Each of the respective tournaments used to score your Liquibet rating (ie the OGN leagues, the KPGA league and all Liquibitions and Liquid tournaments) will have their own unique point system. For example, the OGN leagues go like this:

- Challenge League: 1 point for each player that advances into the Duel Tournament, 2 points for each player who goes through to the Challenge League Championship match, plus 4 points for correctly choosing the winner of the Challenge League. So, the maximum number of points for the CL is 20 (12 + 4 + 4)

- Duel Tournament: 1 point for each player that advances into the next Starleague (ie max 12 points)

- Starleague: 1 point for each correct guess of the winners each week during the round of 16 and 8 (ie max 4 points each week, unless we have tie-breakers, in which case even more points will be up for grabs). At the semi-final level, it will be 4 points for guessing the winner (ie 4+4 = 8 points max). For the final, the winner brings in a whopping 8 points (basically worth the same in points as correctly guessing all the winners in two weeks of round robin Starleague play).

4) Sit back and watch as your Liquibet rating soars and your phone rings off its hook from all the congratulatory calls from adoring fans and foreign dignitaries alike! KEWL!

5) At the end of the Liquibet season, we total up all the points scored by participants and crown a Liquibet theorycraft champion! (Prizes, if any, to be determined!)


We'll have additional info on the point system for the other leagues and tournaments soon. Also, we may tweak the scoring system later on: it's all about BALANCE, remember? Anyway, watch for news and updates on Liquibet here and in our Articles Section!

Now's your chance to get that "newb" tag off your Bnet ID once and forever. Now's your chance to get instant respect in SC/BW forums around cyberspace. Now's your chance to let the world know you may not be able to win an SC/BW game if your life depended on it, but you can sure pick the winners with the best of them! Play Liquibet now and show the world you don't give a damn your Starcraft sux - cuz your Theorycraft ROX!

Are you game?!



[EDIT] Updates coming up...
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
February 25 2003 09:05 GMT
#2
Season 1 starts Tuesday, March 4 (Korea time) with the first week of Challenge League.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
March 06 2003 07:36 GMT
#3
Basic Liquibet strat for ONG groups of 4.

Let's assume each player gets a 50% chance of winning a game.
If you vote for 2 players who play their first game against each other, you have 2/16 odds of getting 2 Liquibet points, 12/16 of getting 1 point and 2/16 of getting 0 point.
But if you vote for 2 players who don't play their first game together, then you have 3/16 odds of getting 2 points, 10/16 of getting 1 and 3/16 of getting 0.

So if you want to assure yourself a warm spot in the middle of the pack, you should always bet for two players who will play against each other for their first game. But if you want to take some risks (and have a chance to be in the driver's seat), you'd better not.
FizbAn
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)80 Posts
March 17 2003 09:20 GMT
#4
Something is wrong in it.

I got 1 point for every bet, for ex. I voted incorrectly for Challenge League group B and got 1 point, I voted correctly for group C and also got 1 point...
Pol
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland1187 Posts
March 18 2003 13:24 GMT
#5
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
March 19 2003 15:57 GMT
#6
Fizban: the 1 point U see besides Ur votes isn't Ur score but only what a good answer is worth in that bet.

U actualy have 4 points
SuicidaL
Profile Joined August 2003
United States7 Posts
August 10 2003 02:03 GMT
#7
How do you bet?
Your nothin but a hoochie, HOOCHIE HOOCHIE HOOCHIE!
Ender
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States294 Posts
October 04 2003 10:16 GMT
#8
More importantly, how do you get into TeamLiquid or [pG]?
The beatings will continue until the morale improves.
NaRu
Profile Joined November 2003
Greece9 Posts
December 01 2003 00:33 GMT
#9
You make an acc and your password comes to your e-mail its TOO easy
i start liquidbet at 26/11/2003
NaRu
Profile Joined November 2003
Greece9 Posts
December 01 2003 00:34 GMT
#10
I cant believe that yellow lose it cant be true
i start liquidbet at 26/11/2003
SkyKyo
Profile Joined September 2003
Bulgaria78 Posts
December 01 2003 07:49 GMT
#11
heheh you could prove yourself in another way not depending on other ppl it`s luck not skill, gl tho
Endure ...
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
December 13 2003 03:17 GMT
#12
ive never ventured to this area before
AutumnLight
Profile Joined July 2003
Ukraine2488 Posts
December 13 2003 13:12 GMT
#13
reading that just made me realise how I miss mensrea's humourous comments... sigh
Pray for War.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
December 15 2003 10:22 GMT
#14
totally-.-;
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
December 16 2003 13:34 GMT
#15
:D
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 18 2003 02:53 GMT
#16
On December 13 2003 22:12 ScRooLooSe wrote:
reading that just made me realise how I miss mensrea's humourous comments... sigh


T.T i also just noticed this ... COME BACK MENSREA.... PLEAAAASE.....
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
December 25 2003 03:38 GMT
#17
Are you laughed at all the time just because you think 9 pool means building nine spawning pools?

LOL
zzzzzz
Taurent
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada401 Posts
December 26 2003 07:55 GMT
#18
haha <3 mensrea
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 17 2004 15:13 GMT
#19
<3 to everyone...*wipes away tears*
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
March 24 2004 09:10 GMT
#20
mensrea! <3 <3 your back?!!
we missed you!
good vibes only
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
June 01 2004 01:38 GMT
#21
LOL Guys named Dan(rekrul) will be kissing ur ass
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
June 19 2004 14:00 GMT
#22
ahah nice mensrea your foreplay is halirous ;p
My life is so hard :(
Saiyo
Profile Joined July 2004
France127 Posts
July 22 2004 00:40 GMT
#23
:z i don't
http://www.neogamei.net P.S.G. ^^
FancyZerg
Profile Joined April 2004
Afghanistan82 Posts
July 25 2004 14:43 GMT
#24
cool new liquibet layout
Long live EnoughZerg
on.sp33d
Profile Joined October 2004
134 Posts
October 29 2004 07:04 GMT
#25
Fun stuff. :D
Good friends stab you in the front.
FalliNinLove
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Slovakia865 Posts
November 09 2004 05:41 GMT
#26
i love your writing style so lol
J1
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada579 Posts
December 17 2004 11:46 GMT
#27
i love the discripition of liquibition! <}~
Playing games in the ways of the DIAO...
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
June 18 2005 12:19 GMT
#28
Nobody has posted here in 6 months. So i am
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
October 15 2005 00:46 GMT
#29
How dual tournament point system work now?
1 point for each starting game and 1 point for two advancing players or 1 point for each advancing player?
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
January 13 2006 17:49 GMT
#30
i know its a few months late but i'll answer anyhow...

1 point for each advancing player you get correct
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
Dendra
Profile Joined July 2006
Croatia801 Posts
November 04 2006 04:44 GMT
#31
hmm sry for askin this but is there a way to change your vote? like i changed my mind so i wanna cancel my bet and put on the other team. i don't c such option anywhere-perhaps mass gaming made me blind :D
Believing isnt seeing.Seeing is believing,but may not be reality.
kimchi49
Profile Joined October 2006
United States10 Posts
November 20 2006 07:53 GMT
#32
do i just.........

dude it's hard to be new.........
*2 gr8t 4u
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 20 2007 09:14 GMT
#33
A good thing to add would be maybe a overall Liquibet thread that you can access only from the liquibet tab/button. This way people can just post general thoughts about current liquibet champs or current players etc without having to dig through each liquibet's thread.

I was thinking of this because I don't know who this Fen guy is (or some of the others top betters) and I didn't want to make a thread somewhere else.

This thread will be a huge ongoing and eventually have a billion pages like the 10 commandments thread or whatever.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
October 02 2007 17:03 GMT
#34
i really love liquibet... the best way of know the coming matches in the league, and a super-funny thing to make at the lunch time!! i expect be the number one this season... and have the best prize in the history, a korea plane ticket?, a T-shirt with the signup of your favorite programmer?? , nah... only a massive writing saying... no_el you are the bet-boy!! hehehehe
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-05 16:14:40
November 19 2007 17:58 GMT
#35
Draken
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada61 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 23:30:41
September 24 2010 23:29 GMT
#36
Ok this liquibet thing sounds fun, but I don't really know where to start.

1. Where can i see how many points i have? my stats only show this :

Liquibet Rank 10108
Number of Points 0 of 0 points voted on
Correct Votes 0 of 0 votes made
Points Percentage 0%
Voting Percentage 0%

Points Missed 317
Votes Missed 226
Total Possible Points 317
Total Possible Votes 226

Current Voting Streak 0 Correct votes in a row
Hottest Voting Streak 0 Correct votes in a row
Worst Voting Streak 0 Wrong votes in a row


2. A lot of this seems to be starcraft 1, can i bet on my favorite SC2 players / tourneys instead?

3. Where do i go to make a bet? i have looked around and I see no option to make a bet anywhere...
Ultra Brian
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada22 Posts
October 24 2010 22:16 GMT
#37
I think its great that TL has transfered liquibet to the gsl. I enjoy betting on games as i feel it makes things very interesting. I have one problem however. On 2010 Sony Ericsson GSL Season 2: Round of 32 Day 1. I got every bet right however there were no pints awarded for correct votes. My votes were done on time and they were all correct. Gimme My Points.

Thank you.
All the strategy to be good but none of the skill.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
October 26 2010 08:23 GMT
#38
lol how did these guys find this
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
evilsaint
Profile Joined August 2010
United States309 Posts
October 26 2010 20:10 GMT
#39
On October 26 2010 17:23 FragKrag wrote:
lol how did these guys find this


FAQ link points to it. While it's necro'd, any chances of giving out icons to the top %5 or %2 or whatever, instead of just the top bettor out of 8982?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 07 2010 22:59 GMT
#40
how does the bet works with check box?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
StarPolice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States327 Posts
November 23 2010 13:04 GMT
#41
Need a way to change vote! I didn't notice MarineKing was Foxer
mentallyafk
Profile Joined October 2010
139 Posts
November 24 2010 21:48 GMT
#42
how do you change your vote?
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
November 26 2010 20:10 GMT
#43
I don't believe you're allowed to change your vote once its cast.

Question though: In my statistics it says i have 53 points in LB1, but on the rankings it only casts me with 52 points, which hurts my rankings by like 25-35 ranks. How do I get that fixed.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Dynamix
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation63 Posts
November 27 2010 00:33 GMT
#44
On November 27 2010 05:10 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I don't believe you're allowed to change your vote once its cast.

Question though: In my statistics it says i have 53 points in LB1, but on the rankings it only casts me with 52 points, which hurts my rankings by like 25-35 ranks. How do I get that fixed.

Same problem in same LB.
Bisu fan
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
December 07 2010 18:48 GMT
#45
On October 27 2010 05:10 evilsaint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 17:23 FragKrag wrote:
lol how did these guys find this


FAQ link points to it. While it's necro'd, any chances of giving out icons to the top %5 or %2 or whatever, instead of just the top bettor out of 8982?


top 5 or something would be awesome
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
sn7.buddy
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany11 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 12:59:04
December 13 2010 12:57 GMT
#46
On November 27 2010 09:33 Dynamix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 05:10 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I don't believe you're allowed to change your vote once its cast.

Question though: In my statistics it says i have 53 points in LB1, but on the rankings it only casts me with 52 points, which hurts my rankings by like 25-35 ranks. How do I get that fixed.

Same problem in same LB.



I have the same problem, but it became better.
A few weeks ago i had two points less in the rankings than in "my stats", now its "only" one point.
I suppose in two or three weeks i have more points in the ranking compared to "my stats".

There were two or three games last week, which were printed wrong in the Index, but now the games are deleted, which means they are not counting towards the rankings i assume. However, i think that caused some point differences between "my stats" and the rankings.
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
December 15 2010 11:32 GMT
#47
i also have the issue of being 1 point off my stats and my ranking

currently ranked #9... so that point might mean something lol
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 30 2010 02:32 GMT
#48
Just pointing out that some maps aren't shown in liquibet. Such as ForGG vs perfectman, the map is Dante's Peak, but it's not in the usual spot. Small nitpick
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
December 30 2010 21:33 GMT
#49
Question: What is the vote for when there's multiple choice? I simply picked the 2 players i thought would win, but then why is there normal votes for the same players beneath it if you had just voted for them already?

Thanks!
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 13:18:51
January 04 2011 13:18 GMT
#50
wont there be a new sc2 liquibet ranking for the new gsl? it feels weird that points are just added to those from gsl3
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 06 2011 16:42 GMT
#51
Sorry if I'm just blind, but is there actually no voting on GSL group F? (MC, NaDa, InCa and san)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
pullarius1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States522 Posts
January 06 2011 17:48 GMT
#52
Yeah I don't see any either.
@pullarius1
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
January 06 2011 17:57 GMT
#53
On January 04 2011 22:18 summerloud wrote:
wont there be a new sc2 liquibet ranking for the new gsl? it feels weird that points are just added to those from gsl3


Yea, it seems like they forgot to determine the GSL3 Liquibet winner and to reset the Liquibet.
Tosho
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia498 Posts
January 07 2011 01:50 GMT
#54
On January 07 2011 01:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
Sorry if I'm just blind, but is there actually no voting on GSL group F? (MC, NaDa, InCa and san)


Yeah i'm noticing tonight group F is missing too. Not sure who to contact about it.
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
January 08 2011 17:46 GMT
#55
I'm pretty sure Stork won Hiya in OSL ro8. LB says Hiya won.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 12 2011 12:55 GMT
#56
On November 25 2010 06:48 mentallyafk wrote:
how do you change your vote?

You can't change your vote. Once you click submit, that's it.

On October 27 2010 05:10 evilsaint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 17:23 FragKrag wrote:
lol how did these guys find this


FAQ link points to it. While it's necro'd, any chances of giving out icons to the top %5 or %2 or whatever, instead of just the top bettor out of 8982?

It would mean the icon is meaningless if top % got icons, because there are a billion LBers out there. (More like thousands, but you get the point.

On December 31 2010 06:33 Firkraag8 wrote:
Question: What is the vote for when there's multiple choice? I simply picked the 2 players i thought would win, but then why is there normal votes for the same players beneath it if you had just voted for them already?

Thanks!

When there's multiple choice, then it means it's group play. In a group of four, you're selecting the 2 players that you think are going to advance. Normal votes for same players beneath are for those specific games on those selected maps, typically the first two matches of each group.

On January 04 2011 22:18 summerloud wrote:
wont there be a new sc2 liquibet ranking for the new gsl? it feels weird that points are just added to those from gsl3

Way too many GSLs. Icons and LB trophies would be dished out way too often as compared to BW.

On January 07 2011 10:50 Tosho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2011 01:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
Sorry if I'm just blind, but is there actually no voting on GSL group F? (MC, NaDa, InCa and san)


Yeah i'm noticing tonight group F is missing too. Not sure who to contact about it.

Typically, if it's like less than a day before match and the LB isn't up, the LB just won't be posted. It's just not fair really to the betters who might not have had a chance to bet on that match. If there's any future SC2 LB issues, feel free to contact CaucasianAsian.
God Bless
Hawker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
February 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#57
Hi I'm wondering when the current sc2 lb will end? If that isn't official will there be like a 1 month warning before it does? I'm currently 13th on the SC2 LB and would definitely change the way I vote if I knew the LB season was ending.
I must've hit it pretty close to the mark to get her all riled up like that, huh kid? - Han Solo
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
February 23 2011 07:28 GMT
#58
The BW Liquibet is gone. Open bets, points, everything. What happened?
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
February 24 2011 09:16 GMT
#59
Yeah i was wondering about that as well... I was in the top 60 last time i checked =(
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
February 25 2011 11:13 GMT
#60
I was in the top 1

So where is my price? Do I get a fancy Icon or something? That would be awesome!
Joestar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden87 Posts
March 09 2011 16:15 GMT
#61
So wait...betting for Leenock vs Losira closed 17:10?

I watched that match way before that time...how does this work out?
"It's a bizarre SC2 adventure"
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
March 09 2011 18:07 GMT
#62
Someone should change the links in Liquibet2. Team roosters points to BW TLPD
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
March 12 2011 07:33 GMT
#63
On March 10 2011 01:15 Joestar wrote:
So wait...betting for Leenock vs Losira closed 17:10?

I watched that match way before that time...how does this work out?


Afaik, that's Korean time. Matches start at 18:00 KST.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
March 17 2011 11:20 GMT
#64
Liquibet2 is broken. Can some admin fix it. It displays only TSL
aoe2fan
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden700 Posts
March 17 2011 14:10 GMT
#65
Im missing the GSL parts too
Joestar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden87 Posts
March 17 2011 16:18 GMT
#66
All stats are wiped...
"It's a bizarre SC2 adventure"
rkiga
Profile Joined June 2010
United States44 Posts
March 19 2011 00:07 GMT
#67
On March 18 2011 01:18 Joestar wrote:
All stats are wiped...


http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2_2/

MC better not break my heart tonight...
GSL bot activated
VirtuosoZ
Profile Joined October 2010
United States31 Posts
April 21 2011 23:25 GMT
#68
If you vote on 1 on 1 matches, statistically u have 50% chance of success (1 in 2 odds). However, in GSL groups there are 4 players; you have to correctly pick both advancing players to get a Liquibet point. Even if you correctly pick 1 of the two winners, you still get nothing. You only have a 17% chance of success (1 in 6 odds).

...So why would anyone vote on GSL group stages? Am I missing something?
There is no "high Diamond/low Masters" league. If you're Diamond, you're Diamond. That's it.
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
April 22 2011 03:51 GMT
#69
Why does my "Your Stats" page say I have 82 points but the "Ranking" page says I only have 81?
RoyalShadow
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5 Posts
April 26 2011 12:55 GMT
#70
@VirtuosoZ
Actually, the odds are 1:4 if you look at the matches below the group (thereby eliminating the possibilities that BOTH players advance after a match). Still not as good as 1:2, but a little better than 1:6.
Idiocy - Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
April 29 2011 11:46 GMT
#71
On April 22 2011 08:25 VirtuosoZ wrote:
If you vote on 1 on 1 matches, statistically u have 50% chance of success (1 in 2 odds). However, in GSL groups there are 4 players; you have to correctly pick both advancing players to get a Liquibet point. Even if you correctly pick 1 of the two winners, you still get nothing. You only have a 17% chance of success (1 in 6 odds).

...So why would anyone vote on GSL group stages? Am I missing something?


Well.. you don't get negative points if you bet incorrectly, so why shouldn't you vote on the group stages?
demonition
Profile Joined January 2011
France2 Posts
April 29 2011 15:08 GMT
#72
Why does my "Your Stats" page say I have 123 points but the "Ranking" page says I only have 119?
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
April 29 2011 18:51 GMT
#73
On April 30 2011 00:08 demonition wrote:
Why does my "Your Stats" page say I have 123 points but the "Ranking" page says I only have 119?

BW or SC2?
demonition
Profile Joined January 2011
France2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 07:49:56
April 30 2011 07:48 GMT
#74
sc2
for today it's now 124 points (in ranking) instead of 128 points (in stats).
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 20:12:23
May 01 2011 15:20 GMT
#75
I wanted to create a new thread in the website feedback forum (just so you get how important that is to me ) but the search button brought me here.
For the first time I am good at liquibet (BW) and all the points that havent been inserted yet would catapult me even more near the top (14/18 points that have allready been played but not added) - so I might even increase my current rank, 29. Come on, I make a screenshot every time I get better and I even made a folder for it to show my grandchildren one day and brag to my friends in times to come. Every time there is an argument I will bring out the screenshot where I am top 30 (maybe top 15 ? top 10 ? WHO KNOWS ??) and I will be king for one minute. Worth it.

PLEASE UPDATE (if you have time)
oh and thanks for having awesome LB

EDIT : What I wrote was a little bit sarcastic .. but actually not. Give me my points.
:D

EDIT2: Man, totally forgot that this was only day 1 and 2 of the MSL and the first game was played ... damn.
Where is my ACE flair
Inertia_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom513 Posts
May 15 2011 16:35 GMT
#76
SC2 LB:
211 (Number of points i have on the ranking page)
215 ( Number of points I have on the stats page)

I should be rank 50, when Im rank 138.

Help?
EpiK-J
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia78 Posts
May 16 2011 09:21 GMT
#77
Can anyone help me out?

Just wondering if there's a way to search players out in the "liquidbet ranking" page?

or is using ctrl+f while clicking each page the only way.....

Just asking cause i want to organise a In-house ranking with my mates
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 01 2011 01:21 GMT
#78
Sorry if I've missed something but how does one know when a liquibet season ends and the new one begins? I came in mid-season so I've got no hope of winning but I find it fun and don't want to miss the start of the next season..
Oh no
Ethereal_Starcraft
Profile Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
June 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#79
I think they next season just started, because i lost all my points and the rankings r blank.
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
July 06 2011 17:05 GMT
#80
lol, the intro is so funny :D Huge throw back to see NTT named as the dream player to get a match with!

I have a question with the rankings. Once everyone is broken up by score, is the (relative) tie-breaker the amount of posts on TL? It seems like the high posters are listed first. Not that it makes much difference, but just curious!
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#81
i'm confused as how this works, when are matches posted up to bet on? a day or two in advance, a week? since usually there's only a couple going on at a time, and i'm also wondering what leagues(sc2) the liquidbet follows now adays?
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Zelderd
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom34 Posts
July 30 2011 09:10 GMT
#82
can you fix Inca vs Leenock since Inca actually won
subV
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
August 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#83
I've noticed that the maps in SC2 liquibet link to the BW TLPD instead of the SC2 TLPD. I know its a small thing, but its been that way for a while and it would be nice if they linked correctly. Don't know if you knew about this already or not.

Keep up the great work!
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 21:31:19
August 12 2011 21:29 GMT
#84
Now that a new season started, will we be seeing the toplist for various events and for the GSL Code A/Code S seasons? It'd be great to see a lot of different categories (who picked the best in up/down matches, who picked the winner, who had the most points in specific events).

I'd love to get on one of those lists, you could make one just for me.

[image loading]
Aww yeahh...


Edit: For those who want to see the streak:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
August 13 2011 16:14 GMT
#85
It appears that I may need to up my post count if I want to win.... :/
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
August 26 2011 18:43 GMT
#86
On August 14 2011 01:14 canucks12 wrote:
It appears that I may need to up my post count if I want to win.... :/

I think that means I'm going to really, really going to need to up my post count o:
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
August 30 2011 16:38 GMT
#87
Can you two just stop betting for 1 week? Thanks in advance.
PS: This is how I feel in LB2 right now+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
September 04 2011 15:25 GMT
#88
Can i see liquibet results of earlier seasons? I need it...
INnoVation TY Maru | Classic Stats Dear sOs Zest herO | Rogue Dark soO
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
September 13 2011 23:30 GMT
#89
On August 31 2011 01:38 zere wrote:
Can you two just stop betting for 1 week? Thanks in advance.
PS: This is how I feel in LB2 right now+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Well, NASL starting now, I don't think I'll have to stop betting to lose my top spot -.-
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
September 18 2011 21:11 GMT
#90
when is the next season? I got in really late so idk what i can really do.
Votes Missed 145 so yeah
esports
Fugue
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia253 Posts
September 27 2011 23:22 GMT
#91
Whoa, did a reset go down? I can't find any threads on this, but the filters have changed, and all NASL bets are gone?
So is GSL Code A/Code S?

Is there a news article on this somewhere?
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
October 04 2011 20:09 GMT
#92
Why can't we see the polls saying how many people voted for each player?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kittensrcute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 00:00:43
October 07 2011 00:00 GMT
#93
On October 05 2011 05:09 julianto wrote:
Why can't we see the polls saying how many people voted for each player?

You can only see the polls after the results are posted (on Liquibets). It hasn't been updated for a bit so that's why you can't see the polls for the games that took place after October 2nd.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
October 09 2011 09:46 GMT
#94
Is the liquibet gonna get updated anytime soon? It has been quite a while since the last update.
Undu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 01:39:27
October 11 2011 01:37 GMT
#95
I dunno if this has been suggested before or if anyone even reads this thread anymore, but a nice thing to see after winner has been posted would be % amount of all votes that picked the correct winner.

Like: you picked X, x won (89% of votes) or something along those lines. Would be nice to be able to gauge upsets/underdogs winning.

Edit: Oh, I just found out this exists, just not listed directly on the liquibet. :D
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
October 11 2011 08:20 GMT
#96
The RO8 matches Between MVP Vs Nestea Are missing from Liquidbet i Pm'ed 'MasterOfChaos' About this a few hours ago; because someone said in IRC chat he was the go to person to contact about this.

The matches are an hour away from Starting just wondering ; because since i can't see the Match-ups for RO8 about to occur in an hour noone will be able to vote on them or has been able to for the last few hours!.

I swear i checked the last 3 pages and couldn't find them they're gone! And have been since like 12:00pm EST i think ><
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Endall
Profile Joined August 2011
United States66 Posts
October 24 2011 05:57 GMT
#97
How come I make all these bets but my stats never update? I have 0 bets?! WTF?
No reply.
RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
November 10 2011 09:46 GMT
#98
On October 24 2011 14:57 Endall wrote:
How come I make all these bets but my stats never update? I have 0 bets?! WTF?



I started liquibets when i registered on tl, which is not that long ago actually, but it stills says I didn't get any points, everything is a 0 except for the number of missed votes. I don't really care, I am just asking out of curiosity.
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
December 01 2011 10:19 GMT
#99
The only leagues that I follow the matchups of every player is Code S and to a degree Code A (at least more so nowadays). I have been completely fucked over this season in liquibet for Code S, every other season has been 60-65% ~.

Is it possible to find a list of people's ranks who ONLY bet on all of them? I imagine there are people above me who have more points and less votes, and people below me who have voted on all the matchups, and I want to be able to distinguish those people. Kind of silly I guess but I like seeing how experienced betters play.

Anyway, thanks to whoever codes and maintains Liquibet :3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 02 2011 08:34 GMT
#100
Gawd i'm 7th place, grrrr.............. So close....
liftlift > tsm
johngalt90
Profile Joined May 2010
United States357 Posts
December 10 2011 00:59 GMT
#101
Was directed here from liquibet FAQ so i am going to ask everyone the question why my liquibet has no bets, no votes, and isnt showing anything for me? couldnt find anything on this so dont know if this is normal or my liquibet has glitched.
fuck the haters
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11579 Posts
December 10 2011 09:25 GMT
#102
I'm assuming you mean SC2?

There are no SC2 Liquibets so far for the new season. I don't think I'll add any until the next GSL Season starts. There's no event going on that merits them so far.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
shackes
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 16:23:28
December 10 2011 16:21 GMT
#103
How can I view the ranking of the last season?

edit: found it http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2_4/
bro_fenix
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
December 12 2011 22:30 GMT
#104
How can I view the ranking of the last season?

edit: found it http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2_4/


Thanks for the link! But does that send me to MY votes/stats for Season 4, or to Yours?
Sorry if dumb question....
Life isnt about waiting for the storm to pass... Its about learning to dance in the rain.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11579 Posts
December 17 2011 19:27 GMT
#105
yours. not mine.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 10 2012 21:19 GMT
#106
Not a good start to the season.
+ Show Spoiler +
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I cant believe it.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Alby8528
Profile Joined January 2012
United States4 Posts
January 11 2012 18:40 GMT
#107
I see, fantasy starcraft, I like it
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
April 02 2012 19:36 GMT
#108
Hey guys! I was just wondering, on my stats page I have 111 points, but in the rankings only 109. Is this a bug or something? I've never been that high ranked so, I'm kinda "worried"
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
September 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#109
Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask, I figure it's a FAQ tho. When does this current season of liquibet end?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
September 18 2012 13:03 GMT
#110
On September 06 2012 12:56 TheDougler wrote:
Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask, I figure it's a FAQ tho. When does this current season of liquibet end?


I'm wondering about this as well.

Also, what's been going on with liquibet lately? So infrequently updated and missing so many votes altogether. First season I actually have a chance of winning...
formerly ClouD.BreaK ~ gogo KTF! & Liquid!
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 21 2012 18:22 GMT
#111
On September 18 2012 22:03 BreaK wrote:

Also, what's been going on with liquibet lately? So infrequently updated and missing so many votes altogether. First season I actually have a chance of winning...


Same. Are the people who normally update Liquibet gone or something? I've had only 1 bet in the past week or two. (if this issue belongs in Feedback or via PM to a higher-up, please let us know)
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
October 04 2012 17:26 GMT
#112
On September 18 2012 22:03 BreaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:56 TheDougler wrote:
Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask, I figure it's a FAQ tho. When does this current season of liquibet end?


I'm wondering about this as well.

Also, what's been going on with liquibet lately? So infrequently updated and missing so many votes altogether. First season I actually have a chance of winning...

Kind of just bumping this thread because I'm still wondering about this...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
October 05 2012 11:24 GMT
#113
where can i see when current season ends?
BombaySensei
Profile Joined March 2011
United States282 Posts
October 07 2012 22:59 GMT
#114
Can we get rid of the Brood War liquibet link at the top of the page already?
EE-God, our Dono and Savior (also our sensei)
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 06 2012 20:11 GMT
#115
Howcome liquibet died out? Really irregular posting of bets nowadays and lackluster updates.

Is it intended to not make use of it anymore? Or is the person in charge really busy with other activities? I always LOVED doing liquibets and would really much like it if it would go back to regular business.

If someone is needed to help with the liquibets, i'm sure people would be willing to help out (like me).
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
November 13 2012 11:37 GMT
#116
I would like to see this come back, its a shame that this seems to be dieing out.
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
November 16 2012 09:50 GMT
#117
give us liquibet! *sharpening pitchforks*
Try again, fail better.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
November 16 2012 10:23 GMT
#118
Starting to wonder myself...liquibet?

Has anyone seen liquibet?!
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
November 16 2012 15:43 GMT
#119
Nope. It's been dormant since the most recent OSL.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
milcz
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland14 Posts
November 22 2012 10:34 GMT
#120
pitchfork ready, commencing assault
Druids of the Claw commence! (* ̄(エ) ̄*)
Funkmastajam
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
November 23 2012 06:11 GMT
#121
I also have been checking for any new liquibet postings everyday, and becoming increasingly sad.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? - Sun Tzu
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 02:12:33
November 24 2012 04:44 GMT
#122
I believe I've discovered the issue with Liquibet. The guy who updates it, CaucasianAsian, is on vacation:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=368083#2

Aim your pitchforks at him, lol.

Edit: Well, whaddaya know. He's back. Glad to see the return of Liquibet, CA.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
December 15 2012 12:15 GMT
#123
Im sorry but I REALLY dont understand the point system, for example:

Proleague
Proleague Round 1
Betting closes: December 09 2012 11:00
Your vote Winner Points:
CJ Entus VS Woongjin Stars Woongjin Stars CJ Entus 1

Team 8 VS Samsung Khan Team 8 Team 8 1



and this is just one example of many equally confusing similarities, its as if, picking the winner or the loser most of the time doesnt matter?

Since im obviously being incredibly stupid could somebody please explain it to me?
Rumudiez
Profile Joined November 2010
United States40 Posts
December 16 2012 09:40 GMT
#124
"It's so simple even Bush can't get it wrong!"

You got that right. I don't even StarCraft and can get rank one!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 22 2012 15:52 GMT
#125
Why didn't we get points for the Code A predictions of this season? I got 3/4 and all show 0 points, that can't be right, right?
Rumudiez
Profile Joined November 2010
United States40 Posts
December 22 2012 19:16 GMT
#126
I think it's a little funny, too. I don't always pay that much attention to point spreads, though, so I'm not sure it's any different this season.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
January 01 2013 21:24 GMT
#127
On December 23 2012 00:52 StarVe wrote:
Why didn't we get points for the Code A predictions of this season? I got 3/4 and all show 0 points, that can't be right, right?

Code A predictions? What do you mean?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
January 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#128
Damn I did not realize like 15 liquibet polls were going to be posted for same night and count as points.. I just missed all of those and I was top 3 in liquibet. I thought usually if they are posted the day of the event they dont count as points just votes... at least in the past. I came a bit to late to vote on any of the games because they all lock at the start of the first.. Is there anyone to petition to change the point values?
Livin' this life like it was written.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 06 2013 20:37 GMT
#129
Woo, I'm in the top 1000 for the first time. Yeeeah! :p
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
January 06 2013 21:17 GMT
#130
Jesus, I've always spent a lot of time thinking about on whom I should put my bets. The recent couple of weeks/months I've been busy doing other stuff though and basically just voted for the hell of it. Glanced at "your stats" just now found a 5, thinking it was my current streak or something. "Sweet!" I thought and went over to the top list. Wat. I'm at number 5? I seriously don't know what to make of this lol.
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
January 26 2013 03:16 GMT
#131
Top 100, I don't even really feel I know the players or teams that well lol just lucky picks I guess...(picking zerg more frequently helps too i suppose? lol)
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
February 05 2013 20:48 GMT
#132
Why don't the GSL Code A Day 1 games for Feb. 5th count for any points? Both sessions have the point totals set at 0 while tomorrow's Code A Day 2 games are 1 point each?
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
H.R.Giger
Profile Joined December 2011
China27 Posts
May 08 2013 12:12 GMT
#133
Are there any glitches in the point system? There might be some issues, because points are lost or not be given or something. I wonder.
For example , in my case: My personal points are 264, but in ranking I am 134th with 258 points. Now in case for example I had 264 points I would have been 54th in ranking (that is a difference). So I was wondering if anybody else has a similar case, or/and an idea of what might be the problem.

ps: Sorry to re-open this thread but I didn't know where else to refer to.
ashita wa ashita no kaze ga fuku
Achmoulin
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden63 Posts
July 17 2014 17:04 GMT
#134
What are the ranking systems when you are on equal points? How is one determined from another?
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
September 23 2014 03:33 GMT
#135
On July 18 2014 02:04 Achmoulin wrote:
What are the ranking systems when you are on equal points? How is one determined from another?

I'd like to know too, please.
don't wall off against random
billynasty
Profile Joined October 2014
United States260 Posts
January 27 2015 11:45 GMT
#136
is the liquidbet system still working? Ive won bets but while it says i should get the points for them, it doesnt give u the points. And now that ive exhausted my initial startup points, i can no longer bet on matches cuz my winnings werent delivered. Not a big deal i guess but it'd be cool to use this feature. Thanks in advance for anyone who wastes their time reading this lol. Hopefully it works soon 4me peace
i dont miss God but i sure miss Santa Claus
IamBiSa
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany69 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-09 22:25:41
May 09 2025 11:09 GMT
#137
Hey guys, pls no ban but there are two Reynors in the Liquibets for 2025 GSL Season 1 Code S Ro8 Group B. I don't know where to reports this. :/

Edit: Well played! :D
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