• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:32
CEST 13:32
KST 20:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE12Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"8ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!42
StarCraft 2
General
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13912 users

TL Tecmo Bowl League

Blogs > EscPlan9
Post a Reply
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-19 10:42:33
March 19 2009 08:10 GMT
#1
For those unaware, there is a TL Tecmo Super Bowl (NES) league being organized and finalized primarily by Mikilatov and me (him moreso). See the thread here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89356

I have picked the Chicago Bears despite the S class handicap of not being able to change the playbook. The thing is, unlike many other S class teams, the Bears default playbook has a few of the best plays in the game and the only giveaway plays are two in shotgun formation. But the thing is, if you have to use a giveaway play (a play where they know what you will be doing based on the formation before the snap), do one that is unexploitable. That is, pick one that has multiple receivers going varying distances across the map. This increases the likelihood of there being an open receiver since the AI is so dumb and the coverage ends up coming down mostly to your play trying to cover as much ground as possible.

The two other S class teams, the New York Giants and San Fransisco 49ers will suffer from there easy to shutdown playbook. A playbook is easy to shutdown when you can basically just pick 75% (or more) their best play, 25% their 2nd best play and use your best LB or DB to defend.

I'm also aware of the 3 best playbooks in the game, as well as minor variations on them. I used to play in a league against people well aware of those playbooks and so I have a lot of experience minimizing the effect of the potential big plays. Some plays on offense are so ridiculously powerful that you often will have to sacrifice 5-10 yards or risk giving 30+ yards due to the retarded computer AI.

Oh... and I guess since this is my first blog entry here...

My name is Derek. I'm 25 and specialize in IT. I'm currently inbetween jobs and out of school. I have an associates in Social Sciences, but no bachelor degree. I also have an A+ Certification (qualifies me as a certified PC technician), and a Dell Warranty Parts certification (it was encouraged at my last job since we purchased most of our IT assets through them).

Like Artosis, I'm also a vegetarian. I have been one since I was 16 (so 9 years as a vegetarian). But I don't bother others when they're eating and only talk about my diet when it naturally comes up or if someone is genuinely curious.

I'm a big time retro gaming enthusiast. I grew up on NES and SNES. Playing these games again taught me a valuable lesson - never sell any game that was fun to play through. Months or years down the line, you might want to play it again. I also own an XBox 360 and I'll get into that more in another post.

Time to watch last night's Lost!



Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Enrique
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States377 Posts
March 19 2009 08:44 GMT
#2
God I hate the down pitch run from the Bears. Even when it's called, it can still gain ~5 yards. It's annoying as hell, and my roommate loves it.

Nice introduction to yourself. Retro gaming is an awesome past time. I haven't sold a single game that I've ever owned, going back to the NES--and even an atari game or two. Way to be.
~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-19 09:41:26
March 19 2009 09:39 GMT
#3
That run is so sick! And the 3rd and 4th slot runs are tough to stop as well. The 3rd run, if called, will make you lose a few yards. Also if the defender has a star player in a certain position, and executes properly (takes the right path), that run can be stopped abruptly, usually for a loss. The 4th run, if called, will generally get you back to the line of scrimmage, and sometimes if you're lucky gain a yard or two. So overall, their runs are safe when called, and tough to stop when not called. And thank god... cuz the Bears passing situation is abysmal!

Two of the pass plays have safe outs when called. They are almost never defended, and the best part is, the open receiver in both those pass plays is Neal Anderson! He is such a friggin beast in the game!

I also guarantee to put up some sick kickoff returns with Muster. Expect to see some Barry Sander's esque runbacks sometime .

Due to some odd programming in the game, your returners maximum speed is not the same as the actual player's maximum speed. Instead the max speed is based off the max speed of a certain player on your team (I forget who, but I believe it's one of your linebackers). Point being, with returners, you should choose someone with the most hitting power first and foremost, since no matter who you choose, the maximum speed will be the same (as the linebacker's). And Muster certainly has enough hitting power!

And if you're curious, the best returner hands down is Craig Heyward on the Saints. Your maximum speed is based on a fast linebacker in the Saints case, and Heyward ties for the most hitting power in the game (with Okoye).
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Enrique
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States377 Posts
March 19 2009 15:33 GMT
#4
I'm pretty certain your kick return speed is based of the right guard--I think it is anyway, I know it's something weird like that. And I believe the punt return is based off the strong safety. I could be off, but that seems about right.
~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-19 15:40:13
March 19 2009 15:39 GMT
#5
From a quick google search, not the most reputable of sources though -_-;


It's a glitch. The kick return team is the starting offense, they removed the right tackle and added your kick returner, so on kick returns, the returner takes the Max speed of your right tackle. On punt returns the Strong Safety is the the player that is replaced by the returner, so he takes on the max speed of the Strong safety. Sorry about the NES terminology, the Right Tackle is the 2nd one on the depth chart.


found here: http://www.gamespot.com/ds/sports/tecmobowlkickoff/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-47241012&pid=946103

from this google search:

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=Tecmo Super Bowl returners max speed
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Enrique
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States377 Posts
March 19 2009 16:30 GMT
#6
Huzzah, I was almost right! It's been a long time since I looked that up.
~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 19 2009 18:24 GMT
#7
I was way off, but I remember it was based off a different player at least

Shows how long I've been out of the loop.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CrankTV Team League
11:00
Crank Gathers S4: Playoffs
LiquipediaDiscussion
KCM Race Survival
10:00
2026 S3 Week 4
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1094
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko127
BRAT_OK 64
SpeCial 63
mouzStarbuck 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44088
Calm 9496
Shuttle 518
Mini 386
BeSt 330
EffOrt 266
Soma 260
ZerO 211
Soulkey 163
Zeus 157
[ Show more ]
Leta 124
Snow 122
Last 109
Dewaltoss 106
Hyun 98
Light 88
Killer 78
Mind 68
Rush 53
JYJ 51
scan(afreeca) 48
ggaemo 47
ToSsGirL 42
Sharp 32
Shine 32
Sexy 29
Bale 27
Sea.KH 23
HiyA 20
NaDa 20
sorry 16
JulyZerg 14
Noble 12
Terrorterran 8
IntoTheRainbow 6
Icarus 4
Mong 1
Dota 2
Gorgc7398
Dendi473
XcaliburYe83
League of Legends
JimRising 323
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1016
edward101
markeloff75
Other Games
singsing1773
B2W.Neo613
Happy252
Sick192
crisheroes181
Liquid`LucifroN98
FrodaN57
BananaSlamJamma31
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2725
• WagamamaTV395
League of Legends
• Jankos1341
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 28m
Patches Events
5h 28m
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs TBD
OSC
5h 58m
Replay Cast
12h 28m
Escore
22h 28m
CrankTV Team League
23h 28m
OSC
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 16h
RSL Revival
1d 21h
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-29
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.