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Edit: Please direct any questions about Hatchery recruitment to the EVE Corporation thread linked just below. Please don't post them in my blog comments. Thanks.
For any readers who aren't aware, there's a corporation in EVE Online for TL.net's members, called The Hatchery. Here's the thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88359
I started a character a little over a year ago, but since stories about Kwark's fleet commander personality intimidated me a little bit, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to invest my time in another MMO, I played solo for a long time.
EVE isn't really a game for people playing by themselves. I could see someone starting WoW and playing at least a hundred hours before feeling like they had to team up with someone else to get farther, but in EVE it's a little more obvious that the other players are the game.
Even so, I spent a year training up skills, flying more complicated and expensive ships, and occasionally getting a friend to sign up for a few weeks to join me. Nevertheless, the promise of joining Hatchery and getting exposed to the much more rigorous game of fleet combat, which really is what EVE is all about, kept nagging at me.
So, a few weeks ago I joined The Hatchery.
I'd tried sometime around May, finally being pushed over the edge by being killed by a group including a Hatchery member while running a mission in a far too expensive and horribly-fitted ship. Here's what tofucake had to say about it:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88359¤tpage=1080#21586
Unfortunately, Hatchery had gone into a no-invites mode to prepare for the annual Alliance Tournament, an e-sports-ified combat tournament run by CCP, the developers of EVE. I applied, but everyone was pretty distracted and I ended up falling through the cracks, so I waited until all that had passed, and tried again at the start of August.
Suddenly, Lysenko was a member of The Hatchery:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hOUER.jpg)
Of course, this was only the beginning.
I didn't play much for a couple weeks, because of work obligations, but about a week ago I started making more of an effort.
A week ago, I was still trying to fit my own ships, with little comprehension of how one thinks through a fit. This was the result. (The comments tell the story.)
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14307524
Hatchery has a reputation for being direct about people's mistakes, and it's been a long week. Much of my effort has gone into learning how not to get my ships killed, where to go to find a decent fit, and how to fit in in a fleet setting. I have some experience raiding in WoW at a reasonably high level, and Kwark's fleet leadership is top notch. While Kwark doesn't have much patience for people who aren't paying attention or calling out when they're confused, he's more understanding of new players than I think he likes to let on.
Anyway, with the help of some very successful fleet ops and soaking up some good information from the better players around me, today I've crossed over to being net positive for my few weeks in The Hatchery in terms of value killed to value lost.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=914935&m=8&y=2012
All that aside, though, I'm coming to realize that the appeal of EVE as a game is all in the teamwork, to a much greater extent than other MMOs I've played. It's a unique and fascinating game.
I just need to kill more E-UNI miners, then I'll be feeling good about life.
  
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I tried out EVE for a bit a while ago with the Hatchery, was pretty awesome, unfortunately I kinda faded away without telling anybody, because of going through depression IRL, struggling with my Master's thesis and moving back to France from Germany. Now I'm too ashamed (and scared of Kwark :<) to re-try the adventure. 
That said, it was a pretty awesome time I had there - even if the gameplay seemed a bit slow at first, the depth of the game is really incredible and awesome. EVE is probably the only real true MMO game out there.
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Haha Bob! If you have the inclination and the time, don't be scared of Kwark. He certainly lets people have it when they're on the wrong track, but at the same time he wants to see people succeed too.
Plus, right now, we have a large enough group in tackle frigates that you have to screw up really badly to get noticed! :D
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Hatch life pretty awesome, and then you look around six months later and you're bittervetting hardcore. Always good to see (read) someone having fun in EVE.
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I faded away due to the time commitment Sorry to people who wasted their time helping me out. I really appreciated it.
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Mity Hat Tree represent~
Kwark is actually a really nice guy once you get past all the huffing and puffing, don't let him scare you off!
I do believe I might possibly need to come back to this game in the near future.
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Every time I come back to EVE it's because I hear of all the awesome fun people are having in it, but I quickly realise how god damn shitty the game is. With that said the little time I flew with the Hatchery guys was the most fun I had in that terrible game 
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Nice to see you're enjoying yourself! I've been on holiday so I don't think I've seen you around (in game I'm Vargan Armer). I think Kwark is actually a nice person somewhere deep inside the twisted depths of his heart. Probably.
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kwark "I'm used to 16 boxing poker tables, This isn't that hard"
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It's fun with The Hatchery :D
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Hyrule19150 Posts
stop fitting ships by yourself for the love of god
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I wanted to play pretty much just to see kwark rule with an iron fist. i just dont have the time commitment.
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I joined up a while ago with the hatch, and faded away... I haven't had the money to keep a subscription, nor have I been able to make enough money doing L4s because It took so long to get my damn ship. I'd like to get back into eve sometime but for now I don't have the money to get myself started.
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Kwark used to be a nice person, then Stork stopped winning things
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On August 21 2012 03:06 tofucake wrote:
stop fitting ships by yourself for the love of god
Religiously stealing fits for now. I'd been throwing things on and saying "oh that might be handy" in a vacuum and not having the experience or perspective to understand for what it's helpful to optimize. I'm sure sooner or later that will change, but I can tell there's a long way to go.
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On August 20 2012 18:43 Lysenko wrote:
Haha Bob! If you have the inclination and the time, don't be scared of Kwark. He certainly lets people have it when they're on the wrong track, but at the same time he wants to see people succeed too.
Plus, right now, we have a large enough group in tackle frigates that you have to screw up really badly to get noticed! :D
Can't screw up more than me
Nice blog Lysenko.
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I keep thinking I want to play this game again. But then I realise if I'm not in a null sec alliance i'm going to get bored, and then the hassle of getting into one will frustrate me, and then getting all my shit out there without getting scammed and losing everything on the way will take too much time. Why is life so difficult?
The best time I had in this game was playing in the /v/ corp in TEST and just trolling the shit out of all the TEST members while being able to semi-afk rat while watching GSL on my other screen. The isk rate wasn't great but I didn't mind because I was just watching GSL anyway and I managed to make >1bil from pure belt ratting while watching GSL.
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Hyrule19150 Posts
Not in a null sec alliance?
Please tell me you don't enjoy sitting on a Titan for 3 hours waiting for the bridge and that you don't enjoy structure grinds and that you don't think "approach fc, mwd on, f1 targets alphabetically" is PvP....
please.................
and 1b in 4 hours or so of belt ratting?
Hatchery 1b is like 10 minutes T.T
null sec blows dude
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I enjoyed getting verbally abused by Kwark. Enjoyed it a bit too much.
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On August 21 2012 07:20 tofucake wrote:
Not in a null sec alliance?
Please tell me you don't enjoy sitting on a Titan for 3 hours waiting for the bridge and that you don't enjoy structure grinds and that you don't think "approach fc, mwd on, f1 targets alphabetically" is PvP....
please.................
and 1b in 4 hours or so of belt ratting?
Hatchery 1b is like 10 minutes T.T
null sec blows dude
No but bumping your own titans out of position is pretty fun.
The constant threat of getting jumped and then starting counterfleets to go after raiders into your systems is pretty fun.
Going into the neutral null sec space and doing missions while there are 3 enemy corps located in that system is pretty fun.
Also, what are you doing for that 1b in 10 minutes? This is me afk ratting, not soloing complexes or anything like that.
Best story I have is where me and a friend were ratting in some dead end system so we could know if people were coming down. A tengu is reported in the defence comms. He keeps coming down and disrupting our ratting and insulting everyone he manages to jump over the local chat. We get mad so my friend jumps in his carrier and moves his ship on his cyno account onto the gate in a dead end tunnel. Person jumps through decides to engage. My friend instantly throws down the cyno and jumps in on his carrier and kills the tengu so fast. More shittalking ensues then I have ever seen before.
Good times.
Also another time me and an irl friend made new accounts purely to go through high sec and pop capsules that were floating through it. First one we got happened to be the CEO of one of the top 3 corps in that big alliance that was in northwest of null sec (can't remember the name, it's been too long since i played). Killed several bil worth of implants. Guy starts up chat with us getting real mad. We manage to convince him we're noobs and didn't know what we were doing. He gives us like 200mil to start us off in the game.
Gah, this is making me want to play again.
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