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Gosucoaching is back

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 20:49:10
October 01 2010 18:18 GMT
#1
Note: This thread is created by Incontrol outside of his capacity as a TeamLiquid banling. It does not reflect the official views of TeamLiquid or its staff.



Hear me out.

Gosucoaching.com has returned. Right off the bat, what this means for all of you, is there will be the return of the weekly gosucoaching tourney with 100$ up for grabs. Free to enter, casted by top commentators and brought to you in all it's glory. Replays, exciting matches and money. Not bad.

Even if you are against the idea of paying for coaching this is something to be pleased with.

A bit of history:

Gosucoaching was initially the brainchild of Louder. A prominent USA SCBW -> SC2 player who wanted to create a central place for coaching. It started off well but got too big for it's own good. After technical issues revolving around the websites design -> payment -> scheduling etc and a few bad business decisions (read about them HERE and HERE) we have returned.

Under new ownership Gosucoaching.com has cut out the middle-man aspect and returned to simplicity. No longer will you pay the site at large and then go through a gauntlet of scheduling to get a session. Instead, Gosucoaching will function as a service to both the coaches and the students. Coaches will be able to advertise themselves on the site for a small fee and students will only have to go to 1 place to shop for someone that is interested/willing to coach. Fees, scheduling and anything else is controlled by the coaches. Gosucoaching will function as a quality control site. If a coach is doing a poor job, skipping sessions, bm etc.. they will be removed. The site will soon implement a rating system so all coaches can be reviewed by their students and viewed by prospective students.

We are also going to be looking to do things like stream live sessions... which generates free educational content for the public but also advertises what we do. Other activities and events like this will be conducted with the intention of bringing everyone something... not just the paying public.

The new ownership is completely different. Mr. Pfister runs his own business and is an avid SC2 fan/student on the side. He has a family and has been a business man nearly his entire life. With this new ownership we are leaving the past in the past and pushing forward.

FAQ:

-Is Louder associated with the new site?
Answer: No. Louder has moved on as well. Gosucoaching is no longer under his ownership nor does he interact with the site any longer.

-Where do I sign up for the Gosucoaching weekly?
Answer: As before go to gosucoaching.com and sign up. Xeris will be running these tourneys again so expect nothing but amazingly well ran cash tourneys each week!

-If I have problems with past gosucoaching payments what do I do?
Answer: Nobody with gosucoaching.com currently has any ownership of the financial or business issues of this websites past. That responsibility resided solely with previous ownership. It has been made clear that paypal disputes are the way to resolve that. If there is anything you feel you may need help with PM {88}iNcontroL and I will try and help!


I understand that a LOT of this community depends on integrity. I understand that gosucoaching made a mess of the integrity it had built up. All I ask is that you give us another chance. We have made some changes, we have learned from past mistakes and we are ready to return to what we did best.

If you have any q's please post them here or PM me. I will do the best I can to answer them.

***
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
October 01 2010 18:22 GMT
#2
Nice! With Louder gone the veil of suspicion and distrust will be lifted as well. Hope it works out for you guys. All in all the individual coaches and Geoff are very cool trustworthy people trying to make an honest buck.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 01 2010 18:22 GMT
#3
lol

User was warned for this post
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
October 01 2010 18:25 GMT
#4
you might want to remove louder from the about us section if he is no longer associated with the site. Also, updating the site with this message would probably be a good idea.
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 18:27:12
October 01 2010 18:25 GMT
#5
hear hear 100% support from this formerly disgruntled customer of the old GosuCoaching, now an extremely pleased customer of iNcontroL (not in a sexual way). Btw if you have disputes w' the old gosucoaching make sure that you keep your disputes open. They will close after 20 days, regardless of how many times you re-bump the dispute, if it goes un-bumped for 20 days then it will be closed and you will lose your money.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 01 2010 18:26 GMT
#6
On October 02 2010 03:25 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
you might want to remove louder from the about us section if he is no longer associated with the site. Also, updating the site with this message would probably be a good idea.


Yeah there are a lot of updates to be implemented. This absolutely should have been done already haha.

Thanks btw
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 01 2010 18:29 GMT
#7
Same list of coaches and rates?
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#8
good to hear gosucoaching is returning to its roots, getting back to what it does best, COACHING.

I'm sure this will be a success. Can't wait for the return of the gosucoaching weeklys.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 01 2010 18:33 GMT
#9
Looking forward to the weeklies. Good luck
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
October 01 2010 18:36 GMT
#10
awesome more tournies for us :>

good to see gosucoaching back up
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
October 01 2010 18:36 GMT
#11
Best of luck in round two.
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
October 01 2010 18:38 GMT
#12
In the Lessons section:

Posted July 27, 2010 - 10:00am by Louder



There is quite a bit of fixing to do on the site, but glad to hear that weeklies are back.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 01 2010 18:39 GMT
#13
On October 02 2010 03:29 Jibba wrote:
Same list of coaches and rates?


Coaches set there own rates. So it will all vary. Same "core" coaches but eventually it will be open to accepting numerous coaches as a kind of "yellow pages" for coaching
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 01 2010 18:46 GMT
#14
Ok, I do appreciate what you are doing with gosucoaching and the like Inc but I really do think this is over the top now. As a mod, you should not be the one posting or linking someone to a service that provides you money purely so it doesn't appear in anyway involved with TL (in the case that things flop like last time).

I know that you are a really serious about this and it is a great opportunity for people to learn, but TL staff should not actively be soliciting people for cash.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 01 2010 18:51 GMT
#15
Your perspective/opinion is duly noted.

I however would ask that you monitor your opinion with facts.

I am an EG member. I am apart of the State of the Game podcast. I created the Gosuguide. I am also a competitive player. Point is, I am many things. I also coach professionally. I have done that for over a year now. I have posted in regard to gosucoaching and other things for a very long time.

If you want to flame me or flame gosucoaching it will not be ME that warns/bans you as I am involved personally. Again, that is something that is the standard for the rest of the staff as well.
omgCRAZY
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada551 Posts
October 01 2010 18:54 GMT
#16
Are the personal rates up? I can't seem to find them. Once the site is reorganized to the new system I think I will check it out.
THIS NEEDS FACE!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 01 2010 18:55 GMT
#17
Best of luck, good to see you aren't letting an admirable service to the community disintegrate due to some bad luck and administrative problems.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 01 2010 18:55 GMT
#18
On October 02 2010 03:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok, I do appreciate what you are doing with gosucoaching and the like Inc but I really do think this is over the top now. As a mod, you should not be the one posting or linking someone to a service that provides you money purely so it doesn't appear in anyway involved with TL (in the case that things flop like last time).

I know that you are a really serious about this and it is a great opportunity for people to learn, but TL staff should not actively be soliciting people for cash.

I think it's fine. People may associate it with TL but honestly they should simply associate it with Inc and the contributions he's made to the forum. It's a well made OP in Blogs and again, given his history, I see no problem with him repping his stuff. Day9 is also similarly on staff (although with less banny powers.)
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
October 01 2010 18:56 GMT
#19
On October 02 2010 03:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Your perspective/opinion is duly noted.

I however would ask that you monitor your opinion with facts.

I am an EG member. I am apart of the State of the Game podcast. I created the Gosuguide. I am also a competitive player. Point is, I am many things. I also coach professionally. I have done that for over a year now. I have posted in regard to gosucoaching and other things for a very long time.

If you want to flame me or flame gosucoaching it will not be ME that warns/bans you as I am involved personally. Again, that is something that is the standard for the rest of the staff as well.


I really not trying to be negative dude. But your titles are really moot when you compare your currently a TL staff member. That really shows a level of unprofessionalism when someone with your position is soliciting people. Anyone of the other members of this venture could have posted this thread. You would still be involved but not the one actively advertising it which would clear you of any direct involvement. As it stands now it really comes off badly (at least in my opinion).
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Floophead_III
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 01 2010 18:57 GMT
#20
So what exactly is the system going to be for 3rd party coaches looking to use the site?
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