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TheConquereer
Profile Joined May 2010
Spain183 Posts
June 05 2012 14:47 GMT
#61
On June 05 2012 23:43 r.Evo wrote:
Maybe he's a russian who lives on a spanish island!


Maybe im drolets!
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
June 05 2012 15:01 GMT
#62
I'd like to note that his IP actually does match other TL accounts. NrGMonk is still an inexperienced banling and didn't really use the full IP matching functionality we have.

The mods have a decent idea of who it is, and are discussing whether or not to reveal this information. It's likely we'll make a statement on the entire situation (not just the drama itself, but also the way it was handled) in the coming days.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 05 2012 15:06 GMT
#63
gheed... ohhhh gheed... lol

5/5
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
June 05 2012 15:07 GMT
#64
On June 06 2012 00:01 RaGe wrote:
I'd like to note that his IP actually does match other TL accounts. NrGMonk is still an inexperienced banling and didn't really use the full IP matching functionality we have.

The mods have a decent idea of who it is, and are discussing whether or not to reveal this information. It's likely we'll make a statement on the entire situation (not just the drama itself, but also the way it was handled) in the coming days.

Oh the delicious drama! Pleas enlighten us!
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Max2Air
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany92 Posts
June 05 2012 15:09 GMT
#65
I love how many people dont get the irony in Gheed's post :D Great blog as always
If you are reading this you are awesome.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
June 05 2012 15:11 GMT
#66
Sigh. Now trying to figure out the spanish guy who was forced to move to Russia because he was almost lynched for the last time he outed someone as a hacker is slightly more boring than before. =/
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
June 05 2012 15:11 GMT
#67
On June 06 2012 00:11 r.Evo wrote:
Sigh. Now trying to figure out the spanish guy who was forced to move to Russia because he was almost lynched for the last time he outed someone as a hacker is slightly more boring than before. =/


And I don't have a chance to win a signed mousepad from martijn
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:16:27
June 05 2012 15:16 GMT
#68
On June 06 2012 00:11 Gheed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:11 r.Evo wrote:
Sigh. Now trying to figure out the spanish guy who was forced to move to Russia because he was almost lynched for the last time he outed someone as a hacker is slightly more boring than before. =/


And I don't have a chance to win a signed mousepad from martijn


It's not like any of us actually guessed someone specifically. Okay, fuck this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[x] long hair
[x] wears black
[ ] looks russian
[x] could have been living with distant family in russia for the past 20 years

I got my man.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
June 05 2012 15:20 GMT
#69
On June 06 2012 00:01 RaGe wrote:
I'd like to note that his IP actually does match other TL accounts. NrGMonk is still an inexperienced banling and didn't really use the full IP matching functionality we have.

The mods have a decent idea of who it is, and are discussing whether or not to reveal this information. It's likely we'll make a statement on the entire situation (not just the drama itself, but also the way it was handled) in the coming days.


Well this give me hope at least. The way the whole drama unfolded was suboptimal. Hopefully in the future we can establish some kind of protocol for similar kind of incident. Even though I personally find some parts of Spades play suspicious, he shouldnt have to go through this kind of crap when the truth is still being sorted out (there is plenty of time to fuck someone over later). I just hope the next guy that get "call out" doesnt have to go through this shit on TL.
:)
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
June 05 2012 15:26 GMT
#70
I am severely entertained. I love what you can do with the internef. I want the identity as well, hurry up TL
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FranzP
Profile Joined November 2010
France270 Posts
June 05 2012 15:42 GMT
#71
Thx gheed nice thread. I did a research with medevak sc2 in google. It's used by russian guys and apparently one spanish guy on the battle.net forum.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/es/forum/topic/2722996897
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/es/forum/topic/3161446714
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/es/forum/topic/2868764116?page=2
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/es/forum/topic/2986408710?page=2

Each time he is the only one to use this spelling.
"Cyberhacking is kind of like masturbation I guess, all countries do it but nobody actually talks about it. China just was accidentally doing it with the door wide open." Newbistic
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 05 2012 15:45 GMT
#72
On June 06 2012 00:26 Bippzy wrote:
I am severely entertained. I love what you can do with the internef. I want the identity as well, hurry up TL


I want is generally not a good way to make decisions...

I hope the mods take a nice long time to discuss the possible unveiling of the poster. As they probably know, there are a number of possible consequences:

a) If the allegations are deemed false, his reputation is marred just because he reported a pro.
b) Concerned parties can enact retribution in various unpleasant ways.
c) If either of the previous is the case, we can forget about anyone posting anonymous tips again, which also means more maphackers unreported.
d) If the previous points can be disregarded, there's still the question that they alone can decide regarding the particular details of the relationship between him and Spades.
e) Lastly, we damage the message that objective arguments trump authority of the speaker.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:51:58
June 05 2012 15:51 GMT
#73
On June 06 2012 00:45 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:26 Bippzy wrote:
I am severely entertained. I love what you can do with the internef. I want the identity as well, hurry up TL


I want is generally not a good way to make decisions...

I hope the mods take a nice long time to discuss the possible unveiling of the poster. As they probably know, there are a number of possible consequences:

a) If the allegations are deemed false, his reputation is marred just because he reported a pro.
b) Concerned parties can enact retribution in various unpleasant ways.
c) If either of the previous is the case, we can forget about anyone posting anonymous tips again, which also means more maphackers unreported.
d) If the previous points can be disregarded, there's still the question that they alone can decide regarding the particular details of the relationship between him and Spades.
e) Lastly, we damage the message that objective arguments trump authority of the speaker.


If the allegations are false, and Spades get fired, said gentleman/lady is liable for loss of earnings in most legal systems, afaik. Slander is slander everywhere.

I understand that they may have been meant in b), but just clarifying

I like "the Spaniard did it" theory. Spaniards have been romanticized too long! (Gladiator reference)
If I were a rich man, I wouldn't be here
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
June 05 2012 16:01 GMT
#74
• I understand there can be hackers on low levels ("on low levels" instead of "at low levels" or "in low levels")


i think this is one is actually ok? but this blog is kinda funny lol
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 05 2012 16:07 GMT
#75
On June 06 2012 00:51 Arachne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:45 Ghanburighan wrote:
On June 06 2012 00:26 Bippzy wrote:
I am severely entertained. I love what you can do with the internef. I want the identity as well, hurry up TL


I want is generally not a good way to make decisions...

I hope the mods take a nice long time to discuss the possible unveiling of the poster. As they probably know, there are a number of possible consequences:

a) If the allegations are deemed false, his reputation is marred just because he reported a pro.
b) Concerned parties can enact retribution in various unpleasant ways.
c) If either of the previous is the case, we can forget about anyone posting anonymous tips again, which also means more maphackers unreported.
d) If the previous points can be disregarded, there's still the question that they alone can decide regarding the particular details of the relationship between him and Spades.
e) Lastly, we damage the message that objective arguments trump authority of the speaker.


If the allegations are false, and Spades get fired, said gentleman/lady is liable for loss of earnings in most legal systems, afaik. Slander is slander everywhere.

I understand that they may have been meant in b), but just clarifying

I like "the Spaniard did it" theory. Spaniards have been romanticized too long! (Gladiator reference)


Yeah, slander litigation is one possible way of it becoming nasty. Now, there are several ways that can be done too. If the name is public, you can just sue someone and as the process can be delayed for years and be horribly costly, it's a good way to force a non-wealthy member of society into nasty agreements.

If, on the other hand, TL does not reveal the name, then such litigation will still proceed, but with the difference that a court of law will first investigate claims and then (if the first step went ok) ask TL to provide what evidence they have as to the perpetrators identity. So, TL revealing the name is not a prerequisite to slander litigation.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
netherh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom333 Posts
June 05 2012 16:09 GMT
#76
On June 05 2012 22:58 Doodsmack wrote:
^note that the 2 replays drolets uploaded to the Spanish website feature lolvsxd, who joined Karont3 on the same day that lucifron and his brothers did. Would be helpful for someone to parse those replays to confirm that they came from lolvsxd.


They did indeed.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 05 2012 16:11 GMT
#77
I have updated my thread in Website Feedback arguing for why the mods should reveal the OP's identity, and I would encourage others to post their thoughts for the mods' consideration.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342350#6
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 16:15:07
June 05 2012 16:14 GMT
#78
Gheed your blogs are like Harvard law school material, and i am not even shitting you with this either i don't know Harvard for shit or you really are the einstein of starcraft and e-sports logic...
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
Positronic
Profile Joined May 2012
121 Posts
June 05 2012 16:15 GMT
#79
On June 06 2012 01:11 Doodsmack wrote:
I have updated my thread in Website Feedback arguing for why the mods should reveal the OP's identity, and I would encourage others to post their thoughts for the mods' consideration.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342350#6


Poor thing, it didn't even stand a chance...
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 16:18:21
June 05 2012 16:16 GMT
#80
On June 06 2012 01:11 Doodsmack wrote:
I have updated my thread in Website Feedback arguing for why the mods should reveal the OP's identity, and I would encourage others to post their thoughts for the mods' consideration.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=342350#6


A bit hard that...

Edit: For crying out loud ETT ...

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