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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
June 08 2012 03:11 GMT
#261
Others have addressed this but I wanted to add my thoughts.

To all those who have been named as suspects, this is not at all an attempt to assassinate your character. When someone makes an accusation as serious as hacking, though, it NEEDS to be done with great accountability and certainty. Because as Lorch very wisely said:

Im only saying everybody should be carefull about accusations. EVERYBODY. Because my own public image could be damaged because of those accusations.


This is pretty serious shit for people, especially casters and players. The evidence Drolets had was NOT enough to go public with. while it appears he was probably right, we need to set a precedent for the correct way of outing hackers without damaging innocent people's careers.

So those listed as suspects, absolutely nothing against you.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
June 08 2012 03:11 GMT
#262
Did "CSI-TL" suddenly pop into anyone else's mind while reading this? XD
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Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
June 08 2012 04:27 GMT
#263
On June 08 2012 12:11 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Did "CSI-TL" suddenly pop into anyone else's mind while reading this? XD


To me, it was more like "Who is Deep Throat?"
Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono @TL_Brindled11
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 08 2012 04:35 GMT
#264
On June 08 2012 10:08 3FFA wrote:
Maybe hes a formerly banned poster? Maybe Charlie Murphy? Maybe hes a guy formerly banned for hating on Spades? Maybe its someone's dorm room used for way too many bad TL users? :o


Afaik, those accounts get instabanned as soon as the mods see that two accounts share IP or a banned account's IP creates a new account.
Once you're banned you're banned. There's no coming back, unless you work it out with the mods somehow.
You're not allowed to have two accounts.
Am I the only one who read the epic "TL ten commandments"?
It's number 4 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17911

The person posting likely doesn't have another account here / is a public person. It's possible that they don't ban him just because that would make his claim seem ridiculous.
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S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
June 08 2012 09:56 GMT
#265
On June 08 2012 01:43 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 01:30 jdsowa wrote:
Note that 'drolets' is 'Ste Lord' backwards.

What is the significance of this, you ask?

Well, it all started back in the summer of 2004 when I played the WMB qualifier in Guadalajara...


It can also be shortened to Dr. Olets which, in Latin could mean the odoriferous doctor. It is also an anagram for STD Pole, Sled Rot, DT Lores, Old Rest, Ret Sold, Lets Rod and Dolt Roe. I've looked into a lot of these believe me. There are a lot of silly things you can do with his name.

LorCHsc2: The things I looked at were all public, I didn't do much digging on you. I'm sorry you feel that it was an attack against you or your reputation. I was seriously just looking around through the Spanish scene and its relation to K3 and the TL forums. You came up as someone who had a connection and I followed up on it.
I didn't mean to do anything to hurt your character, if this in any way has harmed you I apologize but, in all seriousness I don't see how it could have hurt you.
Seriously congratulations on getting pregnant, I hope everything goes well for your family. You have a seriously bad-ass beard which bodes well for you.
As you said I have no life right now, my fiance just went out of town, I'm not in school at the moment and I can't legally work in the country I live for another few weeks. So you are right, I have a lot of free time.


No offence, but at one point you mentioned that you had almost concluded that it was Lorch, you shouldn't be throwing around such hard accusations without "not digging much" as i quote you. Not to mention you're jokes about his english isn't funny, and it comes off as being simply conceited.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 08 2012 10:29 GMT
#266
On June 08 2012 18:56 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 01:43 Promethelax wrote:
On June 08 2012 01:30 jdsowa wrote:
Note that 'drolets' is 'Ste Lord' backwards.

What is the significance of this, you ask?

Well, it all started back in the summer of 2004 when I played the WMB qualifier in Guadalajara...


It can also be shortened to Dr. Olets which, in Latin could mean the odoriferous doctor. It is also an anagram for STD Pole, Sled Rot, DT Lores, Old Rest, Ret Sold, Lets Rod and Dolt Roe. I've looked into a lot of these believe me. There are a lot of silly things you can do with his name.

LorCHsc2: The things I looked at were all public, I didn't do much digging on you. I'm sorry you feel that it was an attack against you or your reputation. I was seriously just looking around through the Spanish scene and its relation to K3 and the TL forums. You came up as someone who had a connection and I followed up on it.
I didn't mean to do anything to hurt your character, if this in any way has harmed you I apologize but, in all seriousness I don't see how it could have hurt you.
Seriously congratulations on getting pregnant, I hope everything goes well for your family. You have a seriously bad-ass beard which bodes well for you.
As you said I have no life right now, my fiance just went out of town, I'm not in school at the moment and I can't legally work in the country I live for another few weeks. So you are right, I have a lot of free time.


No offence, but at one point you mentioned that you had almost concluded that it was Lorch, you shouldn't be throwing around such hard accusations without "not digging much" as i quote you. Not to mention you're jokes about his english isn't funny, and it comes off as being simply conceited.


Reading comprehension. He almost concluded it was Lorch. He then said it wasn't. If I say I almost robbed you, but found a better potential victim, can you press charges? No. Promethelax also continued to talk about his investigation, to consider and dismiss, and made that public. This is nothing like Drolets, who makes ONE post with half baked conclusions, and never comes back again, with an outright accusation. Not "I almost think Spades is hacking" but an outright "Spades is hacking". There are no hard accusations here. There is "I think but am not sure" and "X% sure it's not" etc. Not once do I see a "Drolets is + Show Spoiler +
an alien!
!!!!"

As for jokes about his English... well, that's going to happen. Not that Lorch has been completely free of jokes at others expense either, and the writing analysis is part of the "forensic" trail.

As for coming off conceited - c'mon. You're in a thread attached to Gheed's blog. Gheed. What the hell do you expect, love and tolerance for everypony?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
LorCHsc2
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain103 Posts
June 08 2012 11:03 GMT
#267
On June 08 2012 01:43 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 01:30 jdsowa wrote:
Note that 'drolets' is 'Ste Lord' backwards.

What is the significance of this, you ask?

Well, it all started back in the summer of 2004 when I played the WMB qualifier in Guadalajara...


It can also be shortened to Dr. Olets which, in Latin could mean the odoriferous doctor. It is also an anagram for STD Pole, Sled Rot, DT Lores, Old Rest, Ret Sold, Lets Rod and Dolt Roe. I've looked into a lot of these believe me. There are a lot of silly things you can do with his name.

LorCHsc2: The things I looked at were all public, I didn't do much digging on you. I'm sorry you feel that it was an attack against you or your reputation. I was seriously just looking around through the Spanish scene and its relation to K3 and the TL forums. You came up as someone who had a connection and I followed up on it.
I didn't mean to do anything to hurt your character, if this in any way has harmed you I apologize but, in all seriousness I don't see how it could have hurt you.
Seriously congratulations on getting pregnant, I hope everything goes well for your family. You have a seriously bad-ass beard which bodes well for you.
As you said I have no life right now, my fiance just went out of town, I'm not in school at the moment and I can't legally work in the country I live for another few weeks. So you are right, I have a lot of free time.


Yeah i have a good reationship with Karont3 people (players and stuff). Im not mad with you and I dont feel i was attacked. Is just I think meaby all of us should be pretty sure aout accusation before to post it, thats all.
LorCHsc2
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain103 Posts
June 08 2012 11:05 GMT
#268
I dont care if you think I am Drolets ^^
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
June 08 2012 11:16 GMT
#269
On June 08 2012 20:05 LorCHsc2 wrote:
I dont care if you think I am Drolets ^^

What if you have been hypnotized by the evil arch nemesis of Spades in order to make an account by the name of "Drolets" and post this accusation and then your memory was erased?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 08 2012 14:17 GMT
#270
TL should hire Gheed to write articles. This is so good I know it's good without having read it (jk obv).
maru lover forever
fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
June 08 2012 15:08 GMT
#271
5/5!
state of the witchhunt pt 2 lol--
great detective work, i'm curious to know the real identity behind the cause of the whole fiasco
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 08 2012 17:33 GMT
#272
On June 08 2012 20:05 LorCHsc2 wrote:
I dont care if you think I am Drolets ^^


We don't think you are. At least, I don't. And I think the actual people looking into have also said they don't think you're Drolets.

Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
June 08 2012 18:33 GMT
#273
It would be so epic if Drolets came here to post "Catch me if you can" I'd instantly start a fanclub.
If you seek well, you shall find.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
June 08 2012 22:45 GMT
#274
On June 09 2012 03:33 Kyrillion wrote:
It would be so epic if Drolets came here to post "Catch me if you can" I'd instantly start a fanclub.

Lol it would be SO epic if he made like a thread, leaving dastardly clues and daring us to chase him across the wide world that is the interwebs.

Then we could have Sherlock Gheeds chase him down narrow alleys in downtown London, while constantly criticizing the incompetence of Scotland Yard's other officers.
I love crazymoving
n3uro
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden16 Posts
June 08 2012 22:53 GMT
#275
On June 09 2012 07:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 03:33 Kyrillion wrote:
It would be so epic if Drolets came here to post "Catch me if you can" I'd instantly start a fanclub.

Lol it would be SO epic if he made like a thread, leaving dastardly clues and daring us to chase him across the wide world that is the interwebs.

Then we could have Sherlock Gheeds chase him down narrow alleys in downtown London, while constantly criticizing the incompetence of Scotland Yard's other officers.


Sherlock Gheed vs Professor Drolearty - The case of the ace of Spades". Sounds like that could be a hit-movie... Anyone willing to fund this idea?
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
June 09 2012 06:52 GMT
#276
I'm afraid that movie would get pirated by everyone.

But I'd certainly buy a ticket if it ends in the two protagonists fighting over a cliff with a spade and an axe.
If you seek well, you shall find.
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
June 10 2012 14:57 GMT
#277
On June 07 2012 10:36 Klogon wrote:
Even if drolets ends up being somebody who absolutely HATES Spades, does it even matter? Objective analysis shows quite convincingly of what's going on: he's a hacker. Tons of reputable pros have shown up and put their names on the line by saying so, and they are the least likely to participate in a "witch hunt." Of course my opinion means shit and those of you who don't already believe he hacked won't believe anything I say anyways. But it is so crystal clear that I honestly cannot believe there are even people still on his side. I think it is absolutely absurd.

Either way, this post is so thorough it is LOL. mad props Gheed haha


Yes i agree on this part. What does it matter who this droplet guy is? You judge a person's post by it's contents, not who is posting. A moron posting a backed-up opinion doesn't make the opinion any less valid than it already is. Although i disagree about the part in which spades is a hacker. Suspicious actions of a player doesn't warrant jumping to conclusions. And also there are pros that actually don't think he's a hacker.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 15:37:29
June 10 2012 15:36 GMT
#278
On June 10 2012 23:57 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 10:36 Klogon wrote:
Even if drolets ends up being somebody who absolutely HATES Spades, does it even matter? Objective analysis shows quite convincingly of what's going on: he's a hacker. Tons of reputable pros have shown up and put their names on the line by saying so, and they are the least likely to participate in a "witch hunt." Of course my opinion means shit and those of you who don't already believe he hacked won't believe anything I say anyways. But it is so crystal clear that I honestly cannot believe there are even people still on his side. I think it is absolutely absurd.

Either way, this post is so thorough it is LOL. mad props Gheed haha


Yes i agree on this part. What does it matter who this droplet guy is? You judge a person's post by it's contents, not who is posting. A moron posting a backed-up opinion doesn't make the opinion any less valid than it already is. Although i disagree about the part in which spades is a hacker. Suspicious actions of a player doesn't warrant jumping to conclusions. And also there are pros that actually don't think he's a hacker.


I personally find it amazing that a few pieces of "objective" evidence somehow completely confirms the conclusion. It's a lot more rational to say "spades hacking is a probable conclusion given the evidence", but there's enough counter-evidence to support the opposite conclusion. There isn't enough information to know 100% and, much to TL's chagrin, the best conclusion right now is "we don't know".

When the mods closed the original drolets thread intrigue said they were waiting for E3's conclusion to discuss a possible outing. It would be quite the "Scooby-Doo moment" to take the monster mask off the villain and see the face of Old Man Jenkins. Wouldn't it be a twist if it turned out to be Gheed???
mrlie3
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada350 Posts
June 10 2012 17:50 GMT
#279
What happened to TL mods' supposedly planned announcement on who this drolets guy was? Anyone knows?
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 10 2012 17:55 GMT
#280
On June 11 2012 02:50 mrlie3 wrote:
What happened to TL mods' supposedly planned announcement on who this drolets guy was? Anyone knows?


Came here to ask this. There was supposed to be a statement after some TL staff comes back from E3 (Nazgul, I guess?) but there doesn't seem to be anything like this and Spades got banned.

Don't keep us in the dark, TL, give us Drolets!
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