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Gen 2 probably had the most defensive metagame of all the Pokemon gens. Never tried anything beyond 3rd gen though so I don't know how the other gens combined.
Just make sure you have a good phys wall and a special wall (aforementioned skarmory-blissey combo).
Honestly though, if both of you aren't really that competitive then you can probably get away with using whatever you want. 
But if you do eventually want to do competitive Pokemon. I can vouch that it is a very deep experience.
The aforementioned Smogon is probably your best bet for standard movesets.
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I personally like Typhlosion, but a really good combo of Kingler, maybe gengar or a noctowl, probably some form of skarmory or high speed pokemon would be good and a general tank is good after that, I personally think a great one is slowbro . If you pick slowbro for the tank don't go kingler or a lightning type will screw up your day. ALSO don't forget the dragons, they are my favorite type of pokemon .
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Really? lol I went through Crystal only with Typhlosion :3
Taught it something like flamethrower, earthquake, thunderpunch, and fire blast iirc.
I'm pretty sure FEAR only emerged after focus sash was put into use, which was gen IV.
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manchamp is so hard to tank ._________.
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After a grueling 10 or so games, this team comes out even with my friend's team...
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tUITA.png)
He has: Manchamp (earthquake, crosschop, thunder punch ??) Lapras (surf, icebeam, bodyslam, 10kVolt) Maganium (solar beam, sunny day, morning sun, bodyslam) Epseon (psychic, shadowball, morning sun, ??) Arcanine (sunny day, fireblast, extremespeed, ??) Crobat (toxic, swagger, fly, ??)
It was extremely hard to tank his manchamp... I had to use my eggexecutor to exclusively tank the manchamp, and try to wear it down with swith-in spikes...
The game is extremely intense, mostly of a switching of arcanine vs suicune, and lapras(10kVolt) vs Forretress. to prevent my forretress from spiking up. I gave suicune a roar, but it does not work as well as I wanted, as the guy I have the most trouble tanking is manchamp, which I can't tank quite well with suicune yet. (I have no idea why he has so much dmg omg...)
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u should pick up pokemon online and we can play some
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Did you just rare candy up your guys? Because Rare candy'd pokemon from level 1->100 don't get EV's. They're really weak.
Also in Gen 2 the two types of attacks aren't split up yet. Which means all fire type attacks are strong when they come from a pokemon with high sp attack damage. A fire type with low spattack can't do much damage with fire type attacks.
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On July 18 2012 08:36 obesechicken13 wrote: Did you just rare candy up your guys? Because Rare candy'd pokemon from level 1->100 don't get EV's. They're really weak.
Also in Gen 2 the two types of attacks aren't split up yet. Which means all fire type attacks are strong when they come from a pokemon with high sp attack damage. A fire type with low spattack can't do much damage with fire type attacks.
You mean Gen 2 doesn't have the concept of "physical" moves running off of attack stat.
Gen 2 had types of attack split up, but it was more dependent on the type of the move. (e.g. fire moves automaticallly run off of SAtk)
And Machamp really is a bitch to tank. What with his high base atk and him gaining STAB on Cross Chop.
I remember my adv resttalk machamp teams from my NetBattle days. People were always surprised how much of a dent it could put on their skarmories haha. I miss playing competitive Pokemon.
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On July 18 2012 17:55 rebdomine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 08:36 obesechicken13 wrote: Did you just rare candy up your guys? Because Rare candy'd pokemon from level 1->100 don't get EV's. They're really weak.
Also in Gen 2 the two types of attacks aren't split up yet. Which means all fire type attacks are strong when they come from a pokemon with high sp attack damage. A fire type with low spattack can't do much damage with fire type attacks. You mean Gen 2 doesn't have the concept of "physical" moves running off of attack stat. Gen 2 had types of attack split up, but it was more dependent on the type of the move. (e.g. fire moves automaticallly run off of SAtk) And Machamp really is a bitch to tank. What with his high base atk and him gaining STAB on Cross Chop. I remember my adv resttalk machamp teams from my NetBattle days. People were always surprised how much of a dent it could put on their skarmories haha. I miss playing competitive Pokemon.
yeah it put a big big big dent in skarmorie...
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On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote: gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?
wait, what?
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On July 16 2012 14:12 thoraxe wrote: Easiest way to play Crystal is to get Feraligator and use him for like 80% of your battles, for the other 20% switch out your Feraligator if they are his weaknesses. Your Feraligator should be like 10-15 levels ahead of any trainer you encounter. Don't forget those flying pokes, cutting pokes, strength pokes, Feraligator should not have any of those HM moves on him, they just take up valuable real estate. The only HM Fera should probbaly have is Surf since it's so much better than the rest of the water attacks up until it gets Hydro Pump and even then, it's inferior to Surf (I'd keep Surf over Hydro). Give him different type attacks so he becomes effective against the most types of Pokes.
^^Best Strat in any Poke game. The reason for using Feraligator is because he is super affective against the most Gym Leaders in G/S/C versions. edit: Come to think of it, Water is always the strongest starter against all the leaders in all the games, it's not like they add new types ever game, right? This. I beat crystal many times using Feraligator like 80%+ of the time. If you level him up and teach him different moves, then he can easily take on a wide variety of opponents.
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On July 21 2012 11:33 DoNotDisturb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote: gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right? wait, what? dude some people are super hardcore at pokemon battles and overall pokemon i had a kid in the year level above me who was soooo pokemon nuts, he skip school to go to those pokemon events overseas and had like every pokemon from gen 1 to 3 and he would trade w/e we wanted with him cause he had everything,=D nice guy he also was convinced he was a real pokemon breeder 0_o all i every did in pokemon was like nooby stuff catch pokemon i thought were cool and play the game till i could beat the main story (not collect all of them) i also mainly relyed on attack only moves lol cause i was shit lolol tho i'm also curious what the lvl1 rattata strat is
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On July 21 2012 15:02 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 11:33 DoNotDisturb wrote:On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote: gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right? wait, what? dude some people are super hardcore at pokemon battles and overall pokemon i had a kid in the year level above me who was soooo pokemon nuts, he skip school to go to those pokemon events overseas and had like every pokemon from gen 1 to 3 and he would trade w/e we wanted with him cause he had everything,=D nice guy he also was convinced he was a real pokemon breeder 0_o all i every did in pokemon was like nooby stuff catch pokemon i thought were cool and play the game till i could beat the main story (not collect all of them) i also mainly relyed on attack only moves lol cause i was shit lolol tho i'm also curious what the lvl1 rattata strat is wow lol.
ratata at level 1 gets 1shot by stuff, so you give it focus sash to survive the hit, and endeavor to make enemy hp match it at 1. next turn you quick attack because of priority
VGC format is all i follow now and even that, i do loosely
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On July 21 2012 11:33 DoNotDisturb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote: gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right? wait, what? I think he's talking about FEAR (f*cking evil annoying rodent) which has a focus sash, endeavor, and quick attack.
Focus sash is an item guarantees that 1 hit point will remain if the Pokemon was supposed to be OHKO'd. Endeavor sets the opponent Pokemon's HP identical to that of the user. Quick attack... well, everyone knows what that does.
That originated in DPPt (Diamond/Pearl/Plat), because that's when the Focus Sash was added into the game ._.
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