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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 10:30:27
July 15 2012 21:23 GMT
#1
Hey ther ppl. My friend and I will be doing a 5 pokemon lvl 50 battle in pokemon crystal. What's the plan here?!

Final team on page 2.

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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 15 2012 21:25 GMT
#2
all-kill magikarp sweep
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 15 2012 21:39 GMT
#3
I really love Gengar/Skarmory/Blissey combo
Miles_Edgeworth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States141 Posts
July 15 2012 21:40 GMT
#4
Make sure you use Snorlax.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 21:42:38
July 15 2012 21:42 GMT
#5
Dragon Dance Waterfall Kingdra looks pretty strong at that level, Skarmory too.
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Miles_Edgeworth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States141 Posts
July 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#6
On July 16 2012 06:42 Kipsate wrote:
Dragon Dance Waterfall Kingdra looks pretty strong at that level, Skarmory too.


Dragon Dance didn't exist in Gen 2.
Brindled
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States508 Posts
July 15 2012 22:01 GMT
#7
On July 16 2012 06:25 paper wrote:
all-kill magikarp sweep


Nice 10000 Post.
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 22:55:43
July 15 2012 22:54 GMT
#8
The conpetitive pokemon in me....

Gengar, dragonite, zapdos i think were gen 2's top tier. Drag probably wont go since he evolves at 55...

I think gen 2 special/attack split by move type, dunno if there were natures.

So just so go gengar for special, zapdos for special, and pick a physical. Unfortunately i dont remember top tier physicals cause gen 2 lol

Also dont forget to abuse stab (same type attack bonus)

Edit: i was thinking of gen 1 lol

Skambliss op
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
July 15 2012 22:59 GMT
#9
omg 31 attack IV's LOL.. so sad I am.
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Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
July 16 2012 01:13 GMT
#10
gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 16 2012 01:26 GMT
#11
yup skarmbliss ftw
when did we start using tyraniboah? Gen 3, right?
if there are no bans, Mewtwo is op, as is lugia, though you may not want lugia if you go skarm/bliss.
just remember this was after the special atk/def split and before the gen iv phys/spec split thing and you'll be fine
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17018 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 02:23:31
July 16 2012 02:22 GMT
#12
Check out smogon's competitive poked ex articles for the gsc generation.

Edit: pokedex, fucking autocorrect.
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LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
July 16 2012 02:54 GMT
#13
You should definitely check out Curselax.

Rattata was gen 4 since it needed a focus sash. (Phanphy sandstorm variant is sicker anyway)

Tyraniboah is gen 3 because of focus punch.

Augh, so much competetive pokemon nostalgia, goddammit.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 16 2012 02:55 GMT
#14
Gen 2 pokemon. When I played Crystal Snorlax carried me through most of my battle tower games.
Ruby Sapphire were just a quick clear.
Then when I played diamond/pearl I learned about competitive pokemon and baton pass teams. You know when a trainer uses a move that increases their attack and you think "well that was a stupid waste of time!" ? Well when you use it 6 times your attack increases by *4 which is approximate to *4 damage. This is true of speed, spattack, and all the other stats too. I beat diamond pearl with pokemon with low bases stats. Nothing stronger than an eevee using this strategy.

If you have the time then go through smogon.
All the legendaries are overpowered except for the ones with bad typing like moltres (fire and flying = * 4 damage from rock)
Wobuffet is supposedly broken with his move set and pokemon power.
Steel types are really strong outside of competitive pokemon just because their typing is so good and most people really don't have plans to counter them. Dragon is strong for the same reason.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 16 2012 02:57 GMT
#15
this thread is like a roll call for anyone that used to play lol
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 03:51:17
July 16 2012 03:12 GMT
#16
Wah hey, congrats paper! I think his 10k wasn't in this thread though.

And Juliette hit the nail on its head XP

Also, from paper's profile, is this true?!
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Apparently it's YOUR post rate, i.e. the picture you see is your personal post rate chart :O


Hm weird, I never actually went to 0 posts per week iirc, only 0 posts for certain days :o
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 16 2012 03:21 GMT
#17
iare you playing using the actual cartridge, or over a simulator?
eziest solution is to go to smogon ( http://www.smogon.com/gs/tiers/ ), check out some OU/ubers, and copy some skillsets
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 16 2012 03:42 GMT
#18
On July 16 2012 12:12 Aerisky wrote:
Wah hey, congrats paper! I think his 10k wasn't in this thread though.

And Juliette hit the nail on its head XP

Also, from paper's profile, is this true?!
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http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php

Apparently it's YOUR post rate, i.e. the picture you see is your personal post rate chart :O

Holy shit I think that's right.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 16 2012 05:06 GMT
#19
On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote:
gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?

Affirmative. Although it took quite a while before it emerged.
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 05:17:40
July 16 2012 05:12 GMT
#20
Easiest way to play Crystal is to get Feraligator and use him for like 80% of your battles, for the other 20% switch out your Feraligator if they are his weaknesses. Your Feraligator should be like 10-15 levels ahead of any trainer you encounter. Don't forget those flying pokes, cutting pokes, strength pokes, Feraligator should not have any of those HM moves on him, they just take up valuable real estate. The only HM Fera should probbaly have is Surf since it's so much better than the rest of the water attacks up until it gets Hydro Pump and even then, it's inferior to Surf (I'd keep Surf over Hydro). Give him different type attacks so he becomes effective against the most types of Pokes.

^^Best Strat in any Poke game. The reason for using Feraligator is because he is super affective against the most Gym Leaders in G/S/C versions. edit: Come to think of it, Water is always the strongest starter against all the leaders in all the games, it's not like they add new types ever game, right?
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
July 16 2012 05:20 GMT
#21
Gen 2 probably had the most defensive metagame of all the Pokemon gens. Never tried anything beyond 3rd gen though so I don't know how the other gens combined.

Just make sure you have a good phys wall and a special wall (aforementioned skarmory-blissey combo).

Honestly though, if both of you aren't really that competitive then you can probably get away with using whatever you want.

But if you do eventually want to do competitive Pokemon. I can vouch that it is a very deep experience.

The aforementioned Smogon is probably your best bet for standard movesets.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 16 2012 05:22 GMT
#22
I personally like Typhlosion, but a really good combo of Kingler, maybe gengar or a noctowl, probably some form of skarmory or high speed pokemon would be good and a general tank is good after that, I personally think a great one is slowbro . If you pick slowbro for the tank don't go kingler or a lightning type will screw up your day. ALSO don't forget the dragons, they are my favorite type of pokemon .
User was warned for too many mimes.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#23
Really? lol I went through Crystal only with Typhlosion :3

Taught it something like flamethrower, earthquake, thunderpunch, and fire blast iirc.

I'm pretty sure FEAR only emerged after focus sash was put into use, which was gen IV.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#24
manchamp is so hard to tank ._________.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 17 2012 10:09 GMT
#25
After a grueling 10 or so games, this team comes out even with my friend's team...
[image loading]

He has:
Manchamp (earthquake, crosschop, thunder punch ??)
Lapras (surf, icebeam, bodyslam, 10kVolt)
Maganium (solar beam, sunny day, morning sun, bodyslam)
Epseon (psychic, shadowball, morning sun, ??)
Arcanine (sunny day, fireblast, extremespeed, ??)
Crobat (toxic, swagger, fly, ??)

It was extremely hard to tank his manchamp... I had to use my eggexecutor to exclusively tank the manchamp, and try to wear it down with swith-in spikes...

The game is extremely intense, mostly of a switching of arcanine vs suicune, and lapras(10kVolt) vs Forretress. to prevent my forretress from spiking up.
I gave suicune a roar, but it does not work as well as I wanted, as the guy I have the most trouble tanking is manchamp, which I can't tank quite well with suicune yet. (I have no idea why he has so much dmg omg...)
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#26
u should pick up pokemon online and we can play some
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 23:36:32
July 17 2012 23:36 GMT
#27
Did you just rare candy up your guys? Because Rare candy'd pokemon from level 1->100 don't get EV's. They're really weak.

Also in Gen 2 the two types of attacks aren't split up yet. Which means all fire type attacks are strong when they come from a pokemon with high sp attack damage. A fire type with low spattack can't do much damage with fire type attacks.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 08:57:43
July 18 2012 08:55 GMT
#28
On July 18 2012 08:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
Did you just rare candy up your guys? Because Rare candy'd pokemon from level 1->100 don't get EV's. They're really weak.

Also in Gen 2 the two types of attacks aren't split up yet. Which means all fire type attacks are strong when they come from a pokemon with high sp attack damage. A fire type with low spattack can't do much damage with fire type attacks.


You mean Gen 2 doesn't have the concept of "physical" moves running off of attack stat.

Gen 2 had types of attack split up, but it was more dependent on the type of the move. (e.g. fire moves automaticallly run off of SAtk)


And Machamp really is a bitch to tank. What with his high base atk and him gaining STAB on Cross Chop.

I remember my adv resttalk machamp teams from my NetBattle days. People were always surprised how much of a dent it could put on their skarmories haha. I miss playing competitive Pokemon.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 20 2012 07:40 GMT
#29
On July 18 2012 17:55 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
Did you just rare candy up your guys? Because Rare candy'd pokemon from level 1->100 don't get EV's. They're really weak.

Also in Gen 2 the two types of attacks aren't split up yet. Which means all fire type attacks are strong when they come from a pokemon with high sp attack damage. A fire type with low spattack can't do much damage with fire type attacks.


You mean Gen 2 doesn't have the concept of "physical" moves running off of attack stat.

Gen 2 had types of attack split up, but it was more dependent on the type of the move. (e.g. fire moves automaticallly run off of SAtk)


And Machamp really is a bitch to tank. What with his high base atk and him gaining STAB on Cross Chop.

I remember my adv resttalk machamp teams from my NetBattle days. People were always surprised how much of a dent it could put on their skarmories haha. I miss playing competitive Pokemon.


yeah it put a big big big dent in skarmorie...
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
July 21 2012 01:50 GMT
#30
PM me if you wanna PO.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 21 2012 02:33 GMT
#31
On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote:
gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?


wait, what?
ffxiv enjoyer
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 21 2012 04:20 GMT
#32
On July 16 2012 14:12 thoraxe wrote:
Easiest way to play Crystal is to get Feraligator and use him for like 80% of your battles, for the other 20% switch out your Feraligator if they are his weaknesses. Your Feraligator should be like 10-15 levels ahead of any trainer you encounter. Don't forget those flying pokes, cutting pokes, strength pokes, Feraligator should not have any of those HM moves on him, they just take up valuable real estate. The only HM Fera should probbaly have is Surf since it's so much better than the rest of the water attacks up until it gets Hydro Pump and even then, it's inferior to Surf (I'd keep Surf over Hydro). Give him different type attacks so he becomes effective against the most types of Pokes.

^^Best Strat in any Poke game. The reason for using Feraligator is because he is super affective against the most Gym Leaders in G/S/C versions. edit: Come to think of it, Water is always the strongest starter against all the leaders in all the games, it's not like they add new types ever game, right?

This. I beat crystal many times using Feraligator like 80%+ of the time. If you level him up and teach him different moves, then he can easily take on a wide variety of opponents.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 21 2012 06:02 GMT
#33
On July 21 2012 11:33 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote:
gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?


wait, what?

dude some people are super hardcore at pokemon battles and overall pokemon i had a kid in the year level above me who was soooo pokemon nuts, he skip school to go to those pokemon events overseas and had like every pokemon from gen 1 to 3 and he would trade w/e we wanted with him cause he had everything,=D nice guy he also was convinced he was a real pokemon breeder 0_o
all i every did in pokemon was like nooby stuff catch pokemon i thought were cool and play the game till i could beat the main story (not collect all of them) i also mainly relyed on attack only moves lol cause i was shit lolol tho i'm also curious what the lvl1 rattata strat is
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 21 2012 06:06 GMT
#34
On July 21 2012 15:02 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 11:33 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote:
gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?


wait, what?

dude some people are super hardcore at pokemon battles and overall pokemon i had a kid in the year level above me who was soooo pokemon nuts, he skip school to go to those pokemon events overseas and had like every pokemon from gen 1 to 3 and he would trade w/e we wanted with him cause he had everything,=D nice guy he also was convinced he was a real pokemon breeder 0_o
all i every did in pokemon was like nooby stuff catch pokemon i thought were cool and play the game till i could beat the main story (not collect all of them) i also mainly relyed on attack only moves lol cause i was shit lolol tho i'm also curious what the lvl1 rattata strat is

wow lol.

ratata at level 1 gets 1shot by stuff, so you give it focus sash to survive the hit, and endeavor to make enemy hp match it at 1. next turn you quick attack because of priority

VGC format is all i follow now and even that, i do loosely
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Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 14:48:16
July 21 2012 14:47 GMT
#35
On July 21 2012 11:33 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 10:13 Fishgle wrote:
gen 2 was the birth of the infamous lvl1 rattata strat, right?


wait, what?

I think he's talking about FEAR (f*cking evil annoying rodent) which has a focus sash, endeavor, and quick attack.

Focus sash is an item guarantees that 1 hit point will remain if the Pokemon was supposed to be OHKO'd.
Endeavor sets the opponent Pokemon's HP identical to that of the user.
Quick attack... well, everyone knows what that does.

That originated in DPPt (Diamond/Pearl/Plat), because that's when the Focus Sash was added into the game ._.
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