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GosuCoaching.com = Scammers / Fraud - Page 2

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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
September 01 2010 02:12 GMT
#21
Aug 22nd:
GosuGaming sends you availabilities
he replies the same day

Aug 24th:
"so much for this, this is thw worst site I've ever used, no response again"

lol. manners?
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
September 01 2010 02:12 GMT
#22
OP did you read this post?

On September 01 2010 11:06 Trion wrote:
Show nested quote +
I found out a little while ago that our email was vanishing into a black hole, and we are MISSING all lesson requests since August 5th. I want to extend my apology to everyone for the confusion. If you think we ignored you, we didn't! So drop us a line again and we won't miss you this time.


This was on the front page of their web page and was posted by someone by the name of "Louder"

Disclaimer: I know very little about GosuCoaching.com and I just posted the first thing I saw on their web page.

Let's talk to one of them since a few of them have been ACTIVE here recently and can definitely provide a reasonable explanation for what happened. Surely you are just overreacting and it was an honest/technical mistake. If you are right and we are all wrong patience is the best way to prove it to us.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
xyos
Profile Joined August 2010
107 Posts
September 01 2010 02:12 GMT
#23
mabye they don't scam, but clearly whoever is running the buisness's is doing a piss poor job, who can't respond to a single email after 10+ days?
TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
September 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#24
no, you rage after 2 days. did you not read the part where they talk about overflow emails and moving to a new setup?
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
September 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#25
well, i hope you get the refund if you don't get the lesson. maybe you can try again with them later. i heard they are a really good coaching website and i will definitely be getting some lessons once i get my paycheck.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17772 Posts
September 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#26
By the way mr. Norm, did you let Ami know you're posting her e-mail all over the net?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
September 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#27
This is ridiculous--I don't know how the process works, but I don't think you even paid Gosucoaching anyway, so there's no way you could have been scammed. If gosucoaching operated like this on a regular basis, they would lose all of their customers within a week's time, thanks to the robustness, nitpicking, and serious-business mindset of most of Team Liquid.

This is all while (difficultly) bringing myself to take you seriously.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
September 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#28
On September 01 2010 11:13 SilentCrono wrote:
well, i hope you get the refund if you don't get the lesson. maybe you can try again with them later. i heard they are a really good coaching website and i will definitely be getting some lessons once i get my paycheck.

Wow you are willing to pay for lessons to exact your revenge haha!
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44121 Posts
September 01 2010 02:13 GMT
#29
Ok. This is clearly ridiculous and the people at gosucoaching are decent guys. I'm closing this. If you want to make a new topic to complain with some proof and dates that add up after having spoken with them then I'll let that one stand. But this is just a joke.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 02:21:24
September 01 2010 02:20 GMT
#30
I just wanted to let the community know that GosuCoaching.com is a big scam site, my friend bought a lessons from them, they requested payment right away, than said it would be months before the lessons, and now are completely ignoring his emails. He's had to open a paypal dispute to attempt to get his money back, I would avoid using this site at all costs


and this is AFTER, he stop responding to me for 5 days in a row the first time


Did you buy lessons or your friend?

Saying that the site is a scam is libel. There is not evidence of a scam. You can say that they do not provide good customer service, but you can't call it a scam without evidence.

Moving this to blogs.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
September 01 2010 02:23 GMT
#31
On September 01 2010 11:13 KwarK wrote:
Ok. This is clearly ridiculous and the people at gosucoaching are decent guys. I'm closing this. If you want to make a new topic to complain with some proof and dates that add up after having spoken with them then I'll let that one stand. But this is just a joke.


I don't think it should be closed. It should remain open so that the business can post its explanation. It is a business that pertains to our users so I think it is an important thread for people to be informed before spending their money. The OP doesn't present his case well, but he wouldn't have made a thread if he had no concerns at all.
ModeratorGodfather
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 01 2010 02:30 GMT
#32
I'm going to respond to this:

Gosucoaching has been closed down.

I was respectfully waiting for the owner (Louder) to announce it's closure since this was his decision and his website but he has been slow to respond or make this public so I will take the responsibility upon myself.

The OP mentions an issue that is quite common with the site in it's current build. The site began as a mere coaching website. An extension of what I was already doing in the blog section of TL with my own coaching endeavor. This was intended to be a larger more professional version of what was evidently a lucrative and beneficial endeavor.

However gosucoaching became too overconfident in what it could accomplish and tried to get larger than it should have.

With the new layout and design Louder had wished for the website to grow as follows: He wanted individuals to contact the site, request a coach, pay for said coach, have a secretary of sorts fill in the request via a calendar that was previously "ok'd" by each coach and then the coach checked the calendar and attended the scheduled meet. This however was completely ineffectual as we experienced scheduling conflicts, miscommunication like lack of timezone clarification or server of actual session, coaches weren't showing because nobody has the same schedule of availability day-in-and-day-out, sessions were being scheduled the day of .. etc etc.. it is important to note THESE ARE INTERNAL GOSUCOACHING MISTAKES the burden of responsibility and fault lies solely with US. We all knew what we were getting into and we all felt that it could work. So while I name Louder as the leader (he is) we are all responsible.

This of course lead to tons and tons of no shows so people started saying "what is the deal?" in droves and eventually the system was flooded with emails of people A. asking for lessons B. asking WHY they weren't getting lessons and C. wanting repercussions/refunds etc

As such Louder decided to pack it up and close up shop. This meant that some coaches lost hours and hours of already serviced coaching sessions. This also meant a bunch of angry customers and people who had faith in our service being left with a sour experience. To each and every one of you I am deeply sorry.

Gosucoaching is done and I will no longer participate in anything that has to do with it. 100% of my business as a coach relies on integrity and community respect. I have endangered that by allowing myself to participate in a failed and exploitative version of what I sought out to do: coach people and sustain my professional career while I do that.

Everyone who sent money and did not get coaching will be refunded. Louder has announced that internally and people have asked for that course of action (obviously). They are entitled to that. In addition I want to apologize for the inconvenience and hope that people will not give up on the coaches involved. Inka, Machine, Sheth, Lzgamer, PsyonicReaver, Future and others are fantastic coaches. They are honest, hard working people who want to do exactly what I did: Coach for the game they love, so they can play the game they love on the highest level.

I will be opening a new site. One with a name yet to be determined. It will be the bare bones of what my original plan was: coaching! It will list coaches, have contact info and bios and that's it. Scheduling will be done through the coach directly and any site activity will be merely to advertise show matches, tourneys or free content. Think of it as a organized yellow pages of SC2 coaches. A place you can go to look up someone to help your game without flooding TL, gosugamers or another site with advertisements for coaching.

Please PM me if you have any questions or need help. I do not handle the paypal account for gosucoaching but I can represent another voice if anyone is slow to get their refund.

Again, sorry for the inconvenience. Hopefully the community will forgive those involved and allow us to reorganize and get back to work.

PS: Gosucoaching was never a "scam" site. It merely got too big for it's own good. Scamming was never our intention. We provided a service people paid for and when that relationship fell out of line gosucoaching collapsed. Please don't apply terms that don't match with what we were doing.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44121 Posts
September 01 2010 02:39 GMT
#33
That sounds kinda like the coaching system on liquidpoker to be honest. Could probably be implemented on tl if there was interest and somebody wanted to run it.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
September 01 2010 02:42 GMT
#34
Well that stinks InControL. Sorry to see this happen to you guys and i hope your future project works out better.
Life is Good.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 01 2010 02:43 GMT
#35
Sad to hear that incontrol. It was a great idea. GL on trying the new thing ... I would love some zerg coaching, one day, eventually...
starleague forever
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
September 01 2010 02:56 GMT
#36
Looks like the OP's rage was founded after all.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
September 01 2010 02:59 GMT
#37
On September 01 2010 11:56 TadH wrote:
Looks like the OP's rage was founded after all.

Rage? Perhaps. But this thread wasn't a good way to deal with it. Maybe he just had no idea of alternate ways to get in touch with them?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
September 01 2010 03:01 GMT
#38
On September 01 2010 11:59 micronesia wrote:
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On September 01 2010 11:56 TadH wrote:
Looks like the OP's rage was founded after all.

Rage? Perhaps. But this thread wasn't a good way to deal with it. Maybe he just had no idea of alternate ways to get in touch with them?


If he paid for something, it's up to them to get in touch with him. Not the other way around.
TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
September 01 2010 03:02 GMT
#39
Not saying this thread was a good way to deal with it, but I would be quite upset as well.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
September 01 2010 03:06 GMT
#40
On September 01 2010 11:59 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 11:56 TadH wrote:
Looks like the OP's rage was founded after all.

Rage? Perhaps. But this thread wasn't a good way to deal with it. Maybe he just had no idea of alternate ways to get in touch with them?

It was a good method. Gosucoaching wasn't responding to their client. They weren't going to confess their faults unless someone wrote a bad review on TL. Without this post, some people will continue to sign up for gosucoaching and not get the service that they deserve in return.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
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