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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 11 2009 20:30 GMT
#1
So apparently today while I was "hugging my laptop" it came to my mind why is there a 64 under the processor sticker near the keypad. The processor is AMD Turion X2 Ultra. SO after 5 months of owning my laptop I found out that it is 64bit compatibility! So I was thinking, when windows 7 comes out and I decide to get it for my laptop, should I get the 32bit or 64bit version. All I know is that 64 handles applications better and has more room for RAM upgrades. So if anyone can please enlighten me on this discovery

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DrLefTy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States36 Posts
August 11 2009 20:33 GMT
#2
heres a decent rule of thumb:

If you have more than 2 gigs of ram, you want a 64 bit version.
otherwise, you're never going to notice.
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
August 11 2009 20:35 GMT
#3
You should check to see if there are 64-bit drivers for the wireless card in your laptop first. If it's fairly new (5 months you said) you should be fine.
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inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
August 11 2009 20:36 GMT
#4
32 bit operating systems can only access ~3gb of RAM. Even if you have 8gb, the computer can only use 3gb without a 64 bit OS. Other than that, most software won't be effected either way to my knowledge.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 11 2009 20:37 GMT
#5
Well, nowadays it is a bit rare to find laptop hardware incompatible with 64bit, so there aren't much in the ways of drawbacks that would hurt. Some software can take issues with 64bit though. Made the switch myself about a month on a new laptop for work, not having many problems.

As for windows 7, you'll be able to get it in either version if you purchased it. Though the download off microsoft store is a bit foggy to me on that part.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
August 11 2009 20:52 GMT
#6
I'm currently using Windows 7 RC 32bit at the moment, is there an RTM 64bit out that is crackable?
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 11 2009 20:56 GMT
#7
On August 12 2009 05:52 GTR wrote:
I'm currently using Windows 7 RC 32bit at the moment, is there an RTM 64bit out that is crackable?

If you have a demonoid account I will PM you the link
iceburn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States303 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 21:01:30
August 11 2009 20:58 GMT
#8
there are a lot of cracks out. http://rs470.rapidshare.com/files/262526492/7LOHv1.2.zip

like that one for example, just google mydigitallife the big crack dev's are there

x64 is jsut faster then x86(32bit)

http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/10183-windows-7-x64-vs-windows-7-x86-fight.html

here are some unoffical tests. that show that
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
August 11 2009 21:08 GMT
#9
Hm, I can always do Upgrade to 64bit rather than Clean Install right?
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iceburn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States303 Posts
August 11 2009 21:09 GMT
#10
No, I think youll have to clean install from 32 bit to 64bit :/ sorry
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
August 11 2009 21:15 GMT
#11
That sucks, oh well.
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 11 2009 21:15 GMT
#12
Yeah I think you have to use a clean install. As for Vista, im currently using 32bit version. However, I might wanna try 64bit, i dont have the discs for my laptop as they said its directly in the harddrive or something, no disks needed. Anyone knows how does that work?
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
August 11 2009 21:25 GMT
#13
i fucking hate 64 bit. theres always some shit that didn't work like active x controls so I couldn't watch those PLU streams. but this is just one example

i stuck with 32 bit even though I have 4gb of ram.
iheartgna
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States184 Posts
August 11 2009 21:30 GMT
#14
On August 12 2009 06:09 iceburn wrote:
No, I think youll have to clean install from 32 bit to 64bit :/ sorry


On August 12 2009 06:15 GTR wrote:
That sucks, oh well.


Even a "clean install" keeps/transfers everything from your Program Files dir. and some other directories. You can find everything in C:\windows.old after the install.
Hell is other people.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 11 2009 21:39 GMT
#15
You have one of those HP laptops with the recovery partitions? Acer's thing, if memory serves, allows you to make a copy of that recovery partition. Haven't looked too hard for HP even though most of the laptops in the family are HP heh.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
August 11 2009 21:39 GMT
#16
I have a Windows.Old folder from upgrading from Vista to 7, is it safe to delete it to free up space (it's around 20GB)? I installed from the HP Stock Installation (my laptop is HP) to Windows 7 RC, so I'm pretty sure there is nothing important in there.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
August 11 2009 21:40 GMT
#17
On August 12 2009 06:39 Ecael wrote:
You have one of those HP laptops with the recovery partitions? Acer's thing, if memory serves, allows you to make a copy of that recovery partition. Haven't looked too hard for HP even though most of the laptops in the family are HP heh.


IIRC, you have to use the in-built recovery software and produce 3 DVD's for back-up.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
August 11 2009 21:45 GMT
#18
On August 12 2009 06:39 GTR wrote:
I have a Windows.Old folder from upgrading from Vista to 7, is it safe to delete it to free up space (it's around 20GB)? I installed from the HP Stock Installation (my laptop is HP) to Windows 7 RC, so I'm pretty sure there is nothing important in there.

yes as long as you saved your documents/pictures/videos that you had previously on your C:\ partition that you might like
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 11 2009 21:46 GMT
#19
New thread title: "Help GTR Install 64bit OS"


... And try to ignore what post he made for his 20 000th
Peace~
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 11 2009 21:46 GMT
#20
On August 12 2009 06:15 DragoonPK wrote:
Yeah I think you have to use a clean install. As for Vista, im currently using 32bit version. However, I might wanna try 64bit, i dont have the discs for my laptop as they said its directly in the harddrive or something, no disks needed. Anyone knows how does that work?


I do think you need the 64bit discs for this kind of stuff.

You're changing the whole system architecture, and I don't think the 64bit version comes in bundle with the 32-bit one. Maybe I'm wrong...
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 11 2009 21:46 GMT
#21
On August 12 2009 06:40 GTR wrote:
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On August 12 2009 06:39 Ecael wrote:
You have one of those HP laptops with the recovery partitions? Acer's thing, if memory serves, allows you to make a copy of that recovery partition. Haven't looked too hard for HP even though most of the laptops in the family are HP heh.


IIRC, you have to use the in-built recovery software and produce 3 DVD's for back-up.

And it'll come with all the junk that came from factory, bleh ><

I miss the simple days of the past when they can just give us a widows disk, we'd purge the machine, and all was well.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
August 11 2009 21:47 GMT
#22
Yeh
I just made a back-up in case my Windows 7 somehow decides to totally screw up on me, but it doesn't appear to be the case.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 22:06:03
August 11 2009 22:02 GMT
#23
On August 12 2009 05:36 inkblot wrote:
32 bit operating systems can only access ~3gb of RAM.

4gb of memory (RAM+virtual memory or w/e it is called in english Windows, so if you say have half gb of v.mem, your os will access 3,5gb of ram). And yeah, if you have 4gb+ then 64bit is way to go. Plus in some applications you dont use whole potential of your CPU on 32bits.
iceburn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States303 Posts
August 11 2009 22:05 GMT
#24
You can install 32bit things into 64bit os. It runs quite well. On top of that with the right hardware you can have xp virturalization. so anything that isn't working properly in 7 you can make it work with xp mode.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 11 2009 23:13 GMT
#25
dont use 64 bit...

+ 1 to kentor

a lot of compatibilty problems, and you barely notice any improvements
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 11 2009 23:42 GMT
#26
I have always preferred the 32 bit OS versions, somehow i have always managed to be one out of a million people that use a program that does not work with 64 bit. Not sure how i do it but its happened a lot. And with 3G or ram i am still ok with it so i dont mind using 32 bit as much.
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