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Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 04:24:21
July 31 2009 22:25 GMT
#21
Don't be terrified of mental help. We all have your problem to varying degrees and with varying causes, and some people are indeed just lazy. But getting out of a cycle of procrastination is not easy, and I'd ask you to consider help before rejecting it outright. Ask yourself how many years you can go on like this and whether you really can expect change this next semester.

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EDIT: OK I wrote this when I was feeling very emotional and I said some things in stupid ways. I'm just trying to be honest because this is an issue that has really caused me tremendous pain.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 01 2009 01:48 GMT
#22
OP sounds like me.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 02:09:11
August 01 2009 02:04 GMT
#23
OP is exactly how high school was for me.


I got to college and found adderall, which I was prescribed for about 5 years.

I stopped taking it about 3 weeks ago. My time on adderal gave me a chance to improve myself.


For me, I discovered it was because I was too concerned with myself, my thoughts, and how I felt. I'd rather lay there and have thoughts and feel how I felt than be engaged in doing something that honestly seemed mostly pointless in the first place.


Here is how you deal with that:

forget about yourself. just do whatever it is you have an inkling of desire to do, and don't stop. stop caring so much about how you feel. put the entirety of your focus on the task at hand. if you stop, without a good reason, your focus probably went back to how you feel.
TiMbeRWoLf
Profile Joined June 2007
United States30 Posts
August 01 2009 02:04 GMT
#24
I have this problem where once I get stuck on something, usually an essay, I don't feel like wasting time on it so I do useless stuff (like surfing the web)

so I end up wasting time anyways
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-01 02:13:12
August 01 2009 02:07 GMT
#25
lol @ 3 posts above, a guy talks about his procrationation problems and he goes to MIT.

Dude.. you go to MIT... I really doubt someone who goes to MIT has personal experience with anything like the OP is talking about.

unless they are taking ADD meds or something


Not trying to be mean though... I realize everyone has problems... but I think my point still stands
gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
August 01 2009 03:03 GMT
#26
Well, if you don't want to be a janitor and live on minimum wage for the rest of your life, then try to work harder in school. There, motivation problem solved.
v1rtu0so
Profile Joined September 2008
United States140 Posts
August 01 2009 03:15 GMT
#27
i feel like the motivation is there; i always know what the smart thing is to do and actually even want to carry through it, because there is a sense of accomplishment after hard work
problem is, once i acutally try to start work; i always try to put it off and even when i actually start, have a lot of difficulty focusing on it for more than 20 min
that is at least how it is for me
and travis, i go to a school that is as "elite" as mit yet i can't get over this problem..so it is def. possible; it could be because we have high expectations and capacity but are not disciplined enough to actually carry thorurgh what we we should do in theory...leading to extreme frustration/stress and a downward spiral
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 01 2009 03:42 GMT
#28
it's been said before but OP sounds like me

my solution was to force myself to go to the library and stay there. you might be doing nothing for 30 minutes to an hour but eventually there is going to come a time where sheer boredom overwhelms laziness to study

I still had a problem getting myself to the library though, but I was a whole lot more productive whenever I did manage to get myself into a library.

in terms of an actual fix of psychological state, I don't have one. it's really something that has to come from within. a desire to become and stay motivated toward a goal. some people have it innately and want to constantly improve and move up in the world. others are easily satisfied with what they have and keep things simple, and thus, remain unmotivated.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 01 2009 04:01 GMT
#29
On August 01 2009 07:25 Muirhead wrote:
The spoiler below is my story, which I originally wrote as a wall of text. Read it if you feel like it. The main thing I wanted to communicate is not to be terrified of mental help. We all have your problem to varying degrees and with varying causes, and some people are indeed just lazy. But getting out of a cycle of procrastination is not easy, and I'd ask you to consider help before rejecting it outright. Ask yourself how many years you can go on like this and whether you really can expect change this next semester.

+ Show Spoiler +
I developed a similar problem in junior year of high school.

When my first girlfriend dumped me at the end of sophomore year I reacted by working 24/7 on math for a summer. I went through MOSP in June and in July and August I read 7-8 books and finished the core of the undergraduate math curriculum.

But when I got back to high school and saw tons of girls around me I got lonely as fuck and started lashing out at my parents and crying all the time. I lost all motivation to do anything but stare at the wall and grow increasingly angry.

My parents forced me to see a psychologist but I rejected his attempts to help. I didn't feel comfortable being forced to see someone. I was still getting As in my high school classes by scribbling homework down during lunch or on bus rides, and I think this helped me hide from the magnitude of the problem.

I convinced my parents to let me drop out of high school and "homeschool." I spent my days at the local state university even though I was not an official student.

I ceased being able to write anything. When I was assigned an essay I would stare blankly at the wall for hours instead of doing it.

I worked for months with a professor and came up with some detailed original research, solving a conjecture that had been open for 10 years. The professor wanted to publish the results. First, he wanted me to write up my work carefully so that he could check it over. I couldn't write. I spent the rest of the year avoiding the professor who had been so kind to me. I didn't answer his emails and I was terrified I'd run into him on the street.

When I got to MIT this fall I was excited by the change of atmosphere. I took a political science course and I wrote essays for it. But towards the end of the term I saw a girl I had a tremendous crush on kissing some other guy.

All of a sudden I couldn't write the final paper. I would just stare at the wall and not write anything. The final paper was worth 60% of the grade, so the TA begged me to write something. He told me I had submitted the best short essays he had ever seen in 3 years of TAing the class. He emailed me for months asking me to submit something late. My grades in other classes slipped. The graduate math courses at MIT were harder than anything I took at the state school, and I couldn't afford to be wasting time staring at walls while trying to write essays. I stayed up every night at home over Christmas break until I fell asleep from exhaustion at 4AM, promising myself I would write the thing. I told my parents I was playing Starcraft but in reality I was just staring at a blank Microsoft word page. Sometimes I would cry and sometimes I would feel completely comatose.

I never finished the essay. The professor give me a C anyways, on the back of my previous work. The first semester at MIT is pass/fail, so I had a perfect record. I spent the little time that was left before the Spring semester catching up on the math I had missed. I didn't sign up for a writing course. I still had a perfect record, and just like in high school this blinded me and made me feel like I could be OK and get back on track.

I met a girl in the middle of the spring semester. We talked a lot, and I was somehow able to convince her to become my girlfriend though she strongly resisted my first few advances. She was strange and incredibly frustrating in some ways. She would never initiate contact with me and trying to hug her was like trying to hug a limp doll. She told me she never had a crush in high school. She didn't understand why anyone would want to kiss and she thought it sounded revolting. Eventually she told me she thought she didn't feel anything for me and was uncomfortable dating.

All of a sudden I couldn't do math. I would try to do math and wind up staring at the paper. Every night I would try to do math and often wind up crying, occasionally vomiting. I thought about killing myself a lot. My parents got a letter saying I had failed a bunch of classes. I went to the mental health people. With help, at home and away from the bad memories at school, I finished the work late. Thanks to the quality of the work and the generosity of the professors I still have straight As.

If something like this happens next semester I think I will kill myself, which is why I'm working closely with the mental health people now.


This post makes you sound like such a stereotypical ivy league douchebag, but with huge social problems (another stereotype of ivy leaguers). You talk about how you lack motivation and how shitty everything is and then say "ya I finished undergraduate math in high school and went to MIT and never did my work and still got A's because the stuff I actually did was so brilliant." Thanks for this.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 01 2009 06:22 GMT
#30
On August 01 2009 12:15 v1rtu0so wrote:
i feel like the motivation is there; i always know what the smart thing is to do and actually even want to carry through it, because there is a sense of accomplishment after hard work
problem is, once i acutally try to start work; i always try to put it off and even when i actually start, have a lot of difficulty focusing on it for more than 20 min
that is at least how it is for me
and travis, i go to a school that is as "elite" as mit yet i can't get over this problem..so it is def. possible; it could be because we have high expectations and capacity but are not disciplined enough to actually carry thorurgh what we we should do in theory...leading to extreme frustration/stress and a downward spiral


u can't get into a school like that without doing tons and tons of work.

so no.. ur procrastination problems aren't even in the same league as some of ours.



but yes I understand these sorts of problems are relative..
but when u talk about how u have these same problems... and then mention u go to an ivy league uni.. it kind of is totally fucking ridiculous to anyone who has motivational problems to the extent where they fail basic high school classes
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 01 2009 06:36 GMT
#31
OP sounds like me... and every other human being on planet earth... ¬¬
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
v1rtu0so
Profile Joined September 2008
United States140 Posts
August 01 2009 07:20 GMT
#32
travis:
if i were like this back in high school, there is no way i would have gotten in to where i am now
most of it is situational
I feel the air from alien planet...
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