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radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 00:58:50
July 22 2009 20:03 GMT
#1
A primer

I'm in medical school and just started my 3rd year. What does that mean exactly? In the US, the first two years are mostly basic science, i.e. sitting through lectures and taking written exams. I would say most students in most schools learn around 60-70% of an entire undergraduate major's equivalent in the following topics: biochemistry, molecular biology, gross anatomy, neuroscience, physiology, histology, microbiology, pathology, and pharmacology. We then get tested in all those areas in the first of three phases of what is commonly referred to as "the Boards." The first part (Step 1) is taken after the first 2 years of medical school. Step 2 is taken sometime during your 4th year. And Step 3 is during your residency.

So I just took Step 1. I studied for 6.5 weeks for usually around 10 hrs/day. I dunno if that's a lot compared to some of you out there, but it's pretty much the most I've ever studied. At some point in during that period, you just have to have faith that it doesn't turn out like it did for another physician:




Anyways, the 3rd and 4th year of medical school are when you actually play doctor. You perform H&P's (history + physical) on patients, follow residents around, and learn about clinical decision-making in a variety of fields. The required clerkships are internal medicine, surgery, pediatrics, OB/GYN, family medicine, neurology, and psychiatry. Those might vary slightly amongst schools but for the most part they are accurate. It's also the time that you decide on a specialty (or reaffirm a decision you've already made). At some point in time during your 4th year, you will have to apply to residencies in your specialty of choice. Applying involves your test scores, your grades, letters of recommendation, and a personal statement.

Note: I don't know why I switched to the 2nd person all of a sudden. There's a possibility that I am unconsciously trying to sneak out of all of those responsibilities.

"Why write a journal?"
1. I think it might help me to document some of the experiences I have when they're still relatively fresh in my mind. I'm hoping it will help me to eventually craft a personal statement and help me articulate my experiences during interviews.

2. It might be of interest to a select group of people here on TL. I will accept no responsibility (heh, see?) if I happen to dash your grandiose illusions of medical education. I hope that doesn't happen of course. Hopefully there will be more happy stories.

3. I kinda like writing even though my deficiencies as a writer are too numerous to count.


"This is going to last a few weeks before you get lazy."

Possibly.

So this will be the cover page. I'll try to answer questions if there are any.
Edit: I'll title the journal entries with "MSJ" until that starts sounding lame.

*****
impatience is a virtue
FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
July 22 2009 20:14 GMT
#2
Wow im really interested. I'm looking forward to attending medical school someday and it would be awesome to read about someone else's experience. I will definitely be keeping up with this.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 22 2009 20:17 GMT
#3
Hm.... interesting, a self made journal of adventure and experience of one's life in med school, I'll be looking forward to hear and read what you write! So good luck and keep them writing!!!


Speaking of which, I keep thinking in my mind to create a daily/weekly blog/journal about me too but... I get too lazy... perhaps I won't soon after seeing how successful you can be at this! :D
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
July 22 2009 20:25 GMT
#4
I would definately be interested in this as well.. Which speciality are you going to go in to?
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banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
July 22 2009 20:38 GMT
#5
Sounds like fun. Will check it out =D
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 22 2009 20:56 GMT
#6
Sounds interesting. Will you publish on TL? :D:D
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
July 22 2009 21:00 GMT
#7
Don't get lazy. I'll read every journal you write.
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 22 2009 21:04 GMT
#8
Which med school do you go to?
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 22 2009 21:05 GMT
#9
As will I.

I'm thinking about staying in college for a bit longer to take classes to be eligible to apply. Was the application process difficult? How were the mcats and all that shit?
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radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
July 22 2009 21:56 GMT
#10
On July 23 2009 05:25 kidd wrote:
I would definately be interested in this as well.. Which speciality are you going to go in to?


Will hopefully decide this year. Leaning towards internal medicine or anesthesiology.



On July 23 2009 06:05 PH wrote:
As will I.

I'm thinking about staying in college for a bit longer to take classes to be eligible to apply. Was the application process difficult? How were the mcats and all that shit?


Applying is pretty draining. You have to stay organized and treat it like a job. Hopefully you are from a state where you have a high chance of getting into at least the state school so you don't have to apply to 30+ programs like I had to. MCAT was not bad for me. The science they test is really pretty basic. Being good with reading comprehension is key. I thought it was easier than most undergrad courses in terms of material. It just takes time to review it all.
impatience is a virtue
StormSnarlX
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States278 Posts
July 23 2009 00:04 GMT
#11
5/5 please continue this blog, I'm a biology major and I'm thinking of going to Med School too so this blog would be a great reference.

Some questions:

1. Have you dissected a human body yet? If so, what was it like?

2. How did you do in your undergrad years? What was your GPA? I am finding the chemistry classes a lot harder than the biology classes. Any advice here?

Thats about all for now. =p
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PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
July 23 2009 00:53 GMT
#12
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 23 2009 01:08 GMT
#13
On July 23 2009 09:53 PaeZ wrote:
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt


uh
"I'm in medical school and just started my 3rd year."

or did he actually mention somewhere that he had taken that test? unless that's part of the boards or something but him being a year behind you that would still be confusing
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
July 23 2009 01:16 GMT
#14
On July 23 2009 10:08 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 09:53 PaeZ wrote:
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt


uh
"I'm in medical school and just started my 3rd year."

or did he actually mention somewhere that he had taken that test? unless that's part of the boards or something but him being a year behind you that would still be confusing

it looks like he's in mexico so it might have something to do with that. not sure though.
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PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
July 23 2009 01:35 GMT
#15
On July 23 2009 10:16 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 10:08 Divinek wrote:
On July 23 2009 09:53 PaeZ wrote:
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt


uh
"I'm in medical school and just started my 3rd year."

or did he actually mention somewhere that he had taken that test? unless that's part of the boards or something but him being a year behind you that would still be confusing

it looks like he's in mexico so it might have something to do with that. not sure though.


Yeah, in here we take the USMLE right before the internship, thats of course if we want to study out residency in the States like me.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 01:47:35
July 23 2009 01:43 GMT
#16
On July 23 2009 09:04 StormSnarlX wrote:
5/5 please continue this blog, I'm a biology major and I'm thinking of going to Med School too so this blog would be a great reference.

Some questions:

1. Have you dissected a human body yet? If so, what was it like?

2. How did you do in your undergrad years? What was your GPA? I am finding the chemistry classes a lot harder than the biology classes. Any advice here?

Thats about all for now. =p


1. Yes, most schools have it during first year. I was a bit ambivalent about it. The first few days were exciting of course, but dissecting is very tedious work. I think most people can tell whether surgery is for them or not during anatomy. My cadaver had bladder cancer (the tumor looked like pork btw!) and had a gastric bypass. Most bodies have some sort of abnormality because everyone has to die of something. I think most people tend to enjoy anatomy a lot because it's quite social and a bit like studying a picture book.

2. GPA was >3.6, probably on the lower end of accepted applicants. You have to do solidly on all your courses the first 2 years because they make up the bulk of your science GPA. Get tutoring if you are having problems. Always try to do questions if possible. Those are the quickest way to learn.
impatience is a virtue
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 01:49:26
July 23 2009 01:46 GMT
#17
On July 23 2009 09:53 PaeZ wrote:
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt


You definitely have to have a solid knowledge base to take the test. I'm sure you know the logistics of the test...7 sections of 48 questions each, many in the style of a clinical vignette. I am a firm believer in First Aid. If you use that, Rapid Review Path (new edition in August I think), and USMLE World for your Q bank, you should be in a good shape to at least pass (although if you want to apply to US residencies as an FMG you should try to do as well as possible...I'm sure you know). However, the key is that you must supplement anything that you don't understand in First Aid with other sources. I read through both FA and RR Path 3-4 times before the boards.
impatience is a virtue
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 01:49:45
July 23 2009 01:48 GMT
#18
Sounds like good stuff. I'll live med school through your journals hopefully. :p

Initially, I wanted to get into med (went through a year of apps, MCATs, etc.), but have recently decided I want to work more with neuromuscular function/dysfunction as opposed to ortho which is more bones/ligaments/etc. so am probably going to go the PT/PT route instead (physical therapy/personal training).

I am still curious about med though so hopefully you can shed light on some good stuff.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 23 2009 02:23 GMT
#19
Sigh, 3.6 gets you into medical school? In Canada it seems that 4.0 is not enough *sarcasm*. LoLz.
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TiMbeRWoLf
Profile Joined June 2007
United States30 Posts
July 23 2009 02:46 GMT
#20
Cool blog... I'm actually working on my primary application right now
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PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
July 24 2009 21:47 GMT
#21
On July 23 2009 10:46 radar14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 09:53 PaeZ wrote:
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt


You definitely have to have a solid knowledge base to take the test. I'm sure you know the logistics of the test...7 sections of 48 questions each, many in the style of a clinical vignette. I am a firm believer in First Aid. If you use that, Rapid Review Path (new edition in August I think), and USMLE World for your Q bank, you should be in a good shape to at least pass (although if you want to apply to US residencies as an FMG you should try to do as well as possible...I'm sure you know). However, the key is that you must supplement anything that you don't understand in First Aid with other sources. I read through both FA and RR Path 3-4 times before the boards.


Hi again, thanks for the Info, yeah I already knew about that, already have all those books you said and I also bought the Kaplan Videos from all the subjects, In my school there are many people from the US and Puerto Rico and they also were kind enought to lend me the "Pass Course" which is an alternative, I study roughly 8 hours a day on weekends and 4 hours a day in the week because I already started classes again so I also have to study for my clinical subjects and all that .

Thanks for the info!! and when you get your grade back please tell us how you did! hopefully good!
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
July 24 2009 22:22 GMT
#22
Good blog. This is of interest to me!
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 24 2009 22:51 GMT
#23
I had some questions about Step 1:

1) I hear they have problems where one question is related to the next where they kinda reveal the answer in the subsequent question and you can't go back to answer the prev question. Where there many of these?
2) Could you actually tell whether or not a question was "experimental" or not?
3) How did you allocate/spend your break time? Was going to the bathroom a problem at all?
4) %-wise how many questions had some sort of picture/histo/gross/chart/graph on it?
5) Did you find it difficult to use the reference values?
s_86
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
July 24 2009 23:31 GMT
#24
If you are in class and they show this on the screen...
Remember to yell out "Holy shit! That lady swallowed a baby!!"
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ItsYoungLee
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)227 Posts
July 24 2009 23:45 GMT
#25
Good luck Brah! You involved in any research?
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radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
July 25 2009 00:33 GMT
#26
On July 25 2009 06:47 PaeZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 10:46 radar14 wrote:
On July 23 2009 09:53 PaeZ wrote:
HI radar! im starting my 4th year of Med school and I plan to take the USMLE step 1 in a couple of months, how did you do btw? is the exam really that hard? Because well i have read that for foreigners, 50% of them fail at the first attempt


You definitely have to have a solid knowledge base to take the test. I'm sure you know the logistics of the test...7 sections of 48 questions each, many in the style of a clinical vignette. I am a firm believer in First Aid. If you use that, Rapid Review Path (new edition in August I think), and USMLE World for your Q bank, you should be in a good shape to at least pass (although if you want to apply to US residencies as an FMG you should try to do as well as possible...I'm sure you know). However, the key is that you must supplement anything that you don't understand in First Aid with other sources. I read through both FA and RR Path 3-4 times before the boards.


Hi again, thanks for the Info, yeah I already knew about that, already have all those books you said and I also bought the Kaplan Videos from all the subjects, In my school there are many people from the US and Puerto Rico and they also were kind enought to lend me the "Pass Course" which is an alternative, I study roughly 8 hours a day on weekends and 4 hours a day in the week because I already started classes again so I also have to study for my clinical subjects and all that .

Thanks for the info!! and when you get your grade back please tell us how you did! hopefully good!


that's pretty rough to have class and boards studying. Good luck. I'm happy with my score...not super high but shouldn't hold me back from too many specialties.

On July 25 2009 07:51 lac29 wrote:
I had some questions about Step 1:

1) I hear they have problems where one question is related to the next where they kinda reveal the answer in the subsequent question and you can't go back to answer the prev question. Where there many of these?
2) Could you actually tell whether or not a question was "experimental" or not?
3) How did you allocate/spend your break time? Was going to the bathroom a problem at all?
4) %-wise how many questions had some sort of picture/histo/gross/chart/graph on it?
5) Did you find it difficult to use the reference values?


1. Like 2 sets of 2 q's each on my test.
2. No way jose. Although everyone assumes the crazy ones that they have no idea on are experimental, who really knows.
3. Nope, if you skip the tutorial you get an extra 15 mins, giving you 1 hr total. I took a 5-10 min break after almost every block, which I would definitely do again. You don't need 40 mins for lunch.
4. Would have been hard to say even right after the test. It's a distant memory now. I only remember a few q's where you literally had to diagnose from a picture, mostly gross from what i remember. In most of them you don't need the picture. A few charts for physio also.
5. It's pretty intuitive. There's even a search function under each tab which is pretty cool. You should kind of know what the common normal lab values are by test time anyways.

On July 25 2009 08:45 ItsYoungLee wrote:
Good luck Brah! You involved in any research?


I did some clinical data collecting for a project in cardiology during the summer after 1st year. It's tough to find time during the school year for a real project. Some people manage, but it's not my cup of tea.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-25 01:00:28
July 25 2009 00:57 GMT
#27
Good luck. I hear you need to score like a 200 on your boards just to get anywhere decent.
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 25 2009 01:21 GMT
#28
Thanks for answering my questions =).
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
July 25 2009 03:10 GMT
#29
Thanks radar for all the info you have given , when I do my test ill make a blog as well and tell everyone how I did, hopefully I can get a good score because when someone is foreigner we need to get even better scores to be able to compete.

BTW my specialties options are: Neurosurgery (just like my dad), Urology or Cardiology.
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