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Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-04 15:11:21
July 04 2009 14:58 GMT
#1
Tales of the mighty road to beyond A+...

- BACKGROUND -

In the beginning of Season 9 I set myself a goal on TL to get Olympic Rings (because A+ is for skilless newbies).
So far, I didn't get to play much, due to being busy with all sorts of other things, but I did make some progress.

I used to be a steady D+ player. Right now I'm C, and holy shit, did iCCup become a hell lot easier or is this because I'm not playing on korean hours anymore? I rushed my way to C (from C-) with some -extreme- ZvZ gamesense (9pool -> speed -> muta yeeeaaahhh) and cheesing out several greedy P players on Colosseum (Nexus before forge? HA! allow me to introduce you to the 11pool SUNKEN).

- GAMEPLAN -

Right now, here are my build orders & counters:

- Game countdown starts: say "gl hf"
- If during the first minute of the game my opponent is saying something polite: say "glyo"
- Opponent asks me highest rank: Counter by saying "D-".
- Opponent asks from: Counter with "from iccup"
- Asks for re: respond: "k, same name"
- Say gg without leave: attack move with my ultra and scout for hidden expos

So yeah, this has been my trip so far. A puny 46% winrate (more like a lose rate amirite) on this account:
ICCup Profile: Aqo
(he has 6 games under 5 minutes! Hacker!)
Ahh how much I love opening 9pool.

- LOOKING FORWARD -

Now that I'm gonna be playing games in the C range, I'm hoping to meet opponents who can actually macro and know the meaning of timings (hell, I don't). What should I do different? Should I work on my muta micro in advance? I know that my muta vs scourge is pretty... subpar.
I'd like to hear advice from the better players, I'm gonna be increasing the rate of games I play and I want to have a blazing road to Olympic Rings.

- HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED -

Right now I'm struggling with:

1. In ZvP, I like to open with a quick 3-Lurker contain. If I do this, toss give me a lot of problems with sair/reaver, mainly because I lose overlords to sairs and can't produce units. How do I deal with this, assuming I still want to get fast lurkers? Do I have to cut some econ for earlier spire&scourge? Or is there a good pattern to hide overlords? (I'm scared of DT) I can't scout their base due to dragoons so I won't know if my lurker opening is solid or they're doing 2stargate sairs. Maybe I can find it out in other ways? spinless forge etc?

2. In ZvT, if T gets a high amount of barracks early on and moves out to attack/contain I have problems with securing my 3rd and then I can't have a proper lategame. What gives?

3. In ZvZ, playing against 3hat ling out of 9pool opening seems to be very flimsy. I need some crazy drone/sunken senses to win that. Is there some formula to make it easier?

If any players who have solid answers can throw some tips that would be awesome. <3

- REPLAYS -

No "I just played some games on iCCup" thread is complete without a replay pack right? So here you have it, replays! Aqoreplay 07-04-2009.rar

Don't expect anything special really, I wouldn't call myself anything beyond C- anyway. But maybe someone is interested anyway who knows! ;o gotta share the love

Reavers. Lurkers. Vultures. Defilers. Corsairs. Vessels. Why did they remove all the cool units from SC2...?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 04 2009 15:36 GMT
#2
glhfyo
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 04 2009 15:42 GMT
#3
Don't worry man, getting olympic is a piece of cake.

Things you might want to add to your BO:
- If you just beat someone in a very close game, maybe even someone a little better than you and he asks for a rematch, you need to say: " sorry, you're too noob"
- If you're gonna get olympic you gotta be badass. Therefore you must only speak poor english. While getting past lower ranks tell people you're from korea and start spamming random ASCII characters

gl on your epic quest and don't forget to post awesome pics of your awesomeness
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
July 04 2009 16:00 GMT
#4
on a serious note, ive been playing Z for fun this past few days, and one way I deal with terrans who bio, Instead of the standard muta harass, i go for fast slowdrop lurkers, drop in their base and try to maximize my damage from that while containing and mass expoing. it does surprisingly well, least in my opinion because most terrans just mass turrets expecting muta. but ZvT is my most hated matchup in the game, which sucks cause zvz and zvp are my favs, but i dont wanna do any dual racing if possible =/
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Aqo[il]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Israel183 Posts
July 04 2009 16:27 GMT
#5
Really wow ;o
ZvT is my favorite mu when the T goes bio, when T goes mech it's my least favorite (macro game derp derp derp) ;/
Reavers. Lurkers. Vultures. Defilers. Corsairs. Vessels. Why did they remove all the cool units from SC2...?
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
July 04 2009 18:15 GMT
#6
On July 05 2009 01:00 Skyze wrote:
on a serious note, ive been playing Z for fun this past few days, and one way I deal with terrans who bio, Instead of the standard muta harass, i go for fast slowdrop lurkers, drop in their base and try to maximize my damage from that while containing and mass expoing. it does surprisingly well, least in my opinion because most terrans just mass turrets expecting muta. but ZvT is my most hated matchup in the game, which sucks cause zvz and zvp are my favs, but i dont wanna do any dual racing if possible =/


I play terran, and I really really hate it when a zerg does dual slow lurker drops. Like when they lift 2 into your main, and 2 behind your mineral line at your expansion. You are usually too busy dealing with 1 to notice the other one before he kills lots of scvs. Also, once the lurkers burrow behind the mineral line at your expo, its extremely hard to kill them without a tank, because of the shitty pathing marines take to attack (they line up in a straight line trying to get behind the mineral patches.

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