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If The Playoffs Started Today: 6/23/09

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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 19:42:30
June 23 2009 15:49 GMT
#1
If The Playoffs Started Today: 6/23/09

1. OZ 32-18 (5 matches left)
2. SKT 32-19 (4 matches left)
3. Hite 30-20 (5 matches left)
4. CJ 30-21 (4 matches left)
5. STX 29-21 (5 matches left)
6. KHAN 28-22 (5 matches left)
7. KT 26-24 (5 matches left)
8. Stars 25-25 (5 matches left)
9. MBC 23-28 (4 matches left)
10. FOX 20-30 (5 matches left)
11. eSTRO 18-32 (5 matches left)
12. Air Force ACE 9-42 (4 matches left)


These are the current SPL pole positions. Surprisingly, CJ has been knocked from third place and now must battle it out with Hite as SKT and OZ appear to be pulling away.

[image loading]

Chart thanks to Pachi


This is how the new playoff system works. What this means for our progaming teams is that if the playoffs were to begin tonight, the matchups would be as follows:

Match A: Hite (3) vs KHAN (6)
Match B: CJ (4) vs STX (5)
Playoff Final: Winner A vs Winner B
Semifinal: Playoff Winner vs SKT
Finals: Semifinal Winner vs OZ


What I'd now like to do is take a look at how things might play out, focusing primarily on matches A and B.

Match A: Hite SPARKYZ vs Samsung KHAN

This should look familiar. Last season*, The Sparkyz managed to fight their way through to the finals match, only to be finished off in five by the powerhouse that was KHAN. Memorable moments included FBH's ridiculous beach ceremony after defeating (T)go.go the wannabe as well as (P)Chalrenge being (P)Chalrenge. A 4-0 sweep was only prevented by the ever-reliable (T)Leta, as his teammates decided to flail in the sand while he was left to stem the tide alone.

This year, however, is different. 2v2 has been eliminated. KHAN's core decided to go into a simultaneous superslump (SSS). Hite has found new strength in (P)Horang2, an improved (Z)YellOw[ArnC], and a hotter-than-ever (T)Leta. Quite frankly, this match would be a beatdown of grudge-like proportions. KHAN is 1:4 vs Hite this year, including this week's brutal 0-3 blowout. As much as I'd like to believe (P)Stork, (T)firebathero, and (P)JangBi can pull it out, it's a long shot. What goes around, comes around, I suppose.

Things to look for:

+ Show Spoiler +
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Match B: CJ Entus vs STX

It may not be a grudge match, but CJ vs STX would promise to be a far better playoff than Hite vs Samsung. These two teams are arguably the most rounded in the league, and as such every match should be exciting. If you're looking for entertainment in a Team BoX, this is where it's at. Many of the potential matchups would be full of win ((Z)EffOrt vs (Z)Calm, anyone?) and these teams rarely disappoint when it comes to fun games.

Predicting this winner proves interesting. CJ has been playing like the elite team it wants to be, and its record shows. A WL title and surging star players leave CJ a favorite against almost any team when it comes down to the wire. However, their record against STX is not so good. They currently stand at 1:3 (with their only win coming in Ace via Kwanroll). These teams' equivalent depths provides an interesting dynamic, as one or two streaking/slumping players may not be enough to tip the scales in a matchup full of upset potential. I think the upcoming R5 match between these two teams may be telling in that respect.

Things to look for:

+ Show Spoiler +
Watch CJ's home stretch closely. They have STX, Hite, and SKT on the menu, and will be clawing tooth and nail to reclaim that #2 spot. Whether they gain momentum or burn out could make or break them, should this playoff match take place.


What about vs SKT/OZ?

I will be looking at potential semifinal/final matches in a later post, as well as keeping track of how things develop in the weeks to come. Feel free to post your thoughts and constructive criticism below.

*Fun Fact: (P)Sea.Pure had the best record for SPL08

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BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
June 23 2009 16:16 GMT
#2
About Pure having the best record, are you sure you didn't leave out winner's league?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17070 Posts
June 23 2009 16:18 GMT
#3
(Z)Nice write up...lots of TLPD happening.

(Z)Where. (T)Only. (Z)Ace.

XD
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 23 2009 16:19 GMT
#4
Pretty sure he said PL 08, as opposed to current season which is 08-09.

Btw, a ton of random stuff got tlpdized.

But the main thing is: fantastic write-up.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 16:31:06
June 23 2009 16:27 GMT
#5
Yeah, I've gone through and edited out all the tlpd monstrosities (I hope, at least). Crazy Koreans and their random English nicks.

Thanks guys. Any recommendations for what else you'd like to see in a post like this one?
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 17:14:48
June 23 2009 17:13 GMT
#6
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 23 2009 17:46 GMT
#7
I think the most interesting part is trying to figure out who will be sent as "filler" players. I think CJ and STX are the only teams that have 6 players who are reasonably capable of taking wins from pretty much everyone. For everyone else, they'll be forced to use players that we rarely ever see in BO5 PL. If these players can create an upset and get a win, it'll be a pretty big advantage for the team.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 18:03:00
June 23 2009 17:54 GMT
#8
I really wanna see some Best of 7's. That way we'll actually see which team has some nice depth, plus BO7s are fucking intense.

That being said, OZ is fucked. Jaedong + Bunch of Failures.

Shit, STX has some fucked up depth. Kal/Hwasin/Calm/Hero/July/Shuttle/Notice. What the hell?

We all know of CJ's depth with Effort/Iris/Skyhigh/Kwanroll/Much/Savior/Movie. But damn, STX has some sick depth too.

I think of the teams that get hit the hardest are probably Samsung and OZ with a BO7 format. Khan with Stork/Jangbi/Great/FBH lack another two players, while OZ simply has Jaedong/Hiya/Backho/Lomo.

I think Hite and SKT can scrape by as Hite has Leta/Yarnc/Horang2/Type-B/Go.Go and SKT has Best/Bisu/Fantasy/TheZerg/Canata, but they certainly don't have the depth to go 6 deep with the confidence that CJ and STX have.

Curious to see who gets sent out from each team. Also, maps'll play a pretty big factor in this, so we'll have to see how that plays out.
God Bless
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
June 23 2009 17:59 GMT
#9
This makes me even more excited for the playoffs, can't wait for it! Great writeup!
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 18:04:24
June 23 2009 18:01 GMT
#10
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
June 23 2009 18:09 GMT
#11
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 23 2009 18:12 GMT
#12
I started writing one of these, but it ended up being kind of shitty and I never finished it. Good job.

The one thing you're not taking into account is who has which matches left, this actually makes the forecast somewhat different (and is a number we can calculate with some measure of accuracy).

The next R&S (hopefully tomorrow) will cover some of this stuff, but from a slightly different perspective, LETS COMPARE NOTES WHEN IT HITS.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 23 2009 18:15 GMT
#13
Well, Kwanro isn't doing too well right now and Movie isn't too good. On the other hand, they're only sending Savior out against ACE and Estro... I think there's still a decent chance they'll play Savior.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 23 2009 18:23 GMT
#14
OZ is so fucked... x.x
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 18:29:06
June 23 2009 18:26 GMT
#15
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?

why not? savior can play
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
June 23 2009 18:26 GMT
#16
On June 24 2009 03:12 heyoka wrote:
I started writing one of these, but it ended up being kind of shitty and I never finished it. Good job.

The one thing you're not taking into account is who has which matches left, this actually makes the forecast somewhat different (and is a number we can calculate with some measure of accuracy).

The next R&S (hopefully tomorrow) will cover some of this stuff, but from a slightly different perspective, LETS COMPARE NOTES WHEN IT HITS.


Yes, this is deliberately narrow in scope, and I look forward to it.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 19:01:44
June 23 2009 19:01 GMT
#17
On June 24 2009 03:26 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?

why not? savior can play


Did someone mention (Z)sAviOr? (Z)sAviOr has been tearing it up lately. He is the unquestionable god of Outsider and even (Z)Jaedong will try to dodge him and that map in the playoffs
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
June 23 2009 19:03 GMT
#18
God I love bo7 PL matches. Looking forward to the playoffs.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
June 23 2009 19:36 GMT
#19
On June 24 2009 04:01 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 03:26 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?

why not? savior can play


Did someone mention (Z)sAviOr? (Z)sAviOr has been tearing it up lately. He is the unquestionable god of Outsider and even (Z)Jaedong will try to dodge him and that map in the playoffs


lol obvi troll
Free Palestine
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 23 2009 20:05 GMT
#20
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?


You insult (Z)sAviOr (1-0 in Round 5, In MSL) but fanboy STX including (Z)July (0 games played in R5) and (P)Shuttle (0 games played in R5)?
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
June 23 2009 20:28 GMT
#21
On June 24 2009 05:05 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?


You insult (Z)sAviOr (1-0 in Round 5, In MSL) but fanboy STX including (Z)July (0 games played in R5) and (P)Shuttle (0 games played in R5)?

Isn't shuttle scheduled to play in a few hours against WeMade?
Uff Da
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
June 23 2009 20:51 GMT
#22
On June 24 2009 05:05 pachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?


You insult (Z)sAviOr (1-0 in Round 5, In MSL) but fanboy STX including (Z)July (0 games played in R5) and (P)Shuttle (0 games played in R5)?


July and Shuttle both in the GSL Ro8

what round did savior get knocked outa? 64?
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 20:59:01
June 23 2009 20:54 GMT
#23
On June 24 2009 05:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 05:05 pachi wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:09 Ideas wrote:
On June 24 2009 03:01 Kentor wrote:
On June 24 2009 02:13 Ideas wrote:
STX would fucking destroy CJ in a Bo7.

Calm/Hwasin/July/Kal/Shuttle/by.hero vs Effort/Kwanro/Iris/skyhigh/much/movie? pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


+ Show Spoiler +
tbh it'd all come down to what team gets more favorable MUs :\. would be a fucking amazing series though

where's savior in CJ line up? CJ is 7 man deep. and wtf shuttle? right....

CJ is the best there is for a Bo7. I wonder how Hahaseung is gonna do.


7th set is a ACE match. you honestly think savior would be played over any of those 6?

and what do you mean wtf shuttle? have you just not watched SC since 2007?


You insult (Z)sAviOr (1-0 in Round 5, In MSL) but fanboy STX including (Z)July (0 games played in R5) and (P)Shuttle (0 games played in R5)?


July and Shuttle both in the GSL Ro8

what round did savior get knocked outa? 64?

savior would rather bang super models than play gom
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 23 2009 20:55 GMT
#24
or get good at sc...
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51665 Posts
June 23 2009 20:58 GMT
#25
Bo7's are the best way to show how deep a team is in terms of strength.
Teams like Oz and KT (read, one man armies) will just simply collapse in the Bo7 format, while deep teams like CJ and STX will dominate.
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