• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:49
CEST 16:49
KST 23:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)83ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo39Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Old Replays From 1.4.6 The future of the SC game model
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? ProGamer Paychecks Story Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9954 users

Tragic Hero

Blogs > thopol
Post a Reply
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 08:24:54
June 12 2009 08:08 GMT
#1
Today I learned something about myself. Very often there will be a player who displays great promise and is granted the attention of so many fans because of a moment in the sun (you can tell because of the 'calm is new savior' or whatever signatures). These players are doted upon for short times and then cast aside in favor of the new one-second-hero.

I prefer the players who show promise but do not perform well. Favorite protoss? BackHo and Free. Terran? I'm one of the only HiyA fans. Zerg? Well, Calm (I was saying shit like 'new savior'... lol). Sure I like good players. Sure I bandwagon with sick newbies like Violet. Sure sure sure. The thing is the players who don't perform well are more attractive to me. There is a component of heroism that comes from being down on your luck. This facet is what really calls to me when I choose my stars.

EDIT: I guess what I'm saying is that when there is an unfavorable relationship between skill and stardom, paradoxically, a kind of tainted stardom ensues.

*
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
June 12 2009 08:11 GMT
#2
YellOw.
TranslatorBaa!
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 12 2009 08:15 GMT
#3
I've always seen Free as a strong player aha =P

Sea.Really for me ^_^
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 08:18:05
June 12 2009 08:16 GMT
#4
On June 12 2009 17:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
YellOw.

This is true. YellOw attained a level of success much beyond the players I mentioned though.

EDIT: Free has been strong, certainly, but his play is not consistently strong enough to garner him the attention or success of similar players (like his dragon buddies).
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
June 12 2009 08:25 GMT
#5
you should talk to Fakesteve about Sea[Shield] and his tournament results!
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
June 12 2009 08:28 GMT
#6
Interesting.

I'm quite the opposite, but I really do sympathize with those who try so hard but fall short.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 12 2009 08:31 GMT
#7
You're totally right about Sea. He falls perfectly into the category of progamer I'm talking about.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 12 2009 08:48 GMT
#8
Everyone is like that.

I love the top players just because it's endlessly entertaining and impressive to see their impeccable gameplay...but I love to follow the up-and-comers; people who will never quite be Jaedong, Flash or Bisu, but people you can support in both their ups and downs.

My favorites in that category are Stork, Jangbi, Really, Piano and Thezerg. I love their play and I love following their games...just they hardly ever fucking deliver good results (Stork has run out of steam once again, and Jangbi just hasn't been playing like he used to since losing three finals in one season...T_T ).
Hello
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 12 2009 09:01 GMT
#9
Stork and Jangbi don't count I'd say. They are both such successful players. The romantic aspect of the loser-star I'm talking about is that they do not achieve that success.

I am really feeling inarticulate tonight. Maybe it's general Pabst's fault.
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
June 12 2009 11:00 GMT
#10
NaDa was a bonjwa, but not anymore. I still love him.

Zerg, I like savior. He simply destroys everyone.

Protoss ~ Who could forget RainbOw? That lovable little loser-boy.
베이비 폭스 WeMade 파이팅! ~ WeMade 팬 ~ BaBy 팬 ~ щ(゚Д゚щ) Gee Gee Gee Gee BaBy BaBy BaBy ♫♫
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
June 12 2009 11:08 GMT
#11
Everybody likes an underdog... though perhaps for different reasons
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 12 2009 13:25 GMT
#12
You love players you can identify with in some way.

I'd say that people who's favorite players are top dogs and winners are more successful in life.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #93
WardiTV1205
IntoTheiNu 1119
TKL 207
IndyStarCraft 134
CranKy Ducklings106
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MaxPax 288
TKL 207
Rex 177
Ryung 147
IndyStarCraft 134
trigger 36
SHIN 27
RushiSC 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5879
Jaedong 1354
Light 867
Mini 582
EffOrt 580
Soulkey 548
BeSt 348
Hyuk 328
Soma 319
Mong 247
[ Show more ]
Snow 225
Zeus 220
Rush 170
ggaemo 120
Dewaltoss 103
hero 98
Pusan 80
Hyun 78
Sea.KH 60
ToSsGirL 40
sorry 39
scan(afreeca) 29
Aegong 24
yabsab 22
Movie 20
Bale 15
GoRush 15
IntoTheRainbow 12
Hm[arnc] 12
Sacsri 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
Dendi1200
420jenkins219
BananaSlamJamma144
Fuzer 69
Other Games
hiko1144
B2W.Neo915
singsing912
Lowko703
crisheroes298
Mew2King66
KnowMe42
ArmadaUGS28
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream582
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV488
• lizZardDota262
League of Legends
• Nemesis3600
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
1h 41m
RSL Revival
19h 11m
RSL Revival
1d 2h
Bombastic Starleague
1d 5h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Bombastic Starleague
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.