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On May 21 2009 02:19 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 02:16 omninmo wrote:
all life on this planet was given to it by the others. call them gods or aliens or anunaki or whatever. evolution is the "science" that the eugenicist elites force feed you. the masses are just as dogmatic about their beloved science as they ever were about religion. Then who created the gods/aliens/anunaki? You haven't explained anything, just put another step into the process and then felt smug because you aren't one of the 'masses'. I'm guessing you haven't heard of or don't care about occam's razor, but it is ok because nobody with half a brain cares about what you or your kind say anyways. You are just light entertainment to the scientific community they enjoy between learning the truth and using it to save your life/make it better.
science is useful only insofar as it serves life. science has use. it is the most useful. but it is only useful in amplifying our senses to make measurement easier. science cannot explain the world. it can only measure it. science doesnt lie but scientists do. the fact that we try to account for the most dynamic process on our planet with one neat "theory" says more about our species than any previous or future ones. the theory of evolution has more to do with human psychology than biology. i wasnt trying to explain anything. i was merely trolling because those who know don't speak and those who speak don't know.
best of luck to all those who would try to catch evolution in the act. "proving" such theories is of anecdotal significance at best. i think some king back in the day had some lackeys... they used "science" to prove a flat earth, witches, plague coming from masturbation, angels, etc.
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Creatures don't evolve. They either merge or morph and outrange you, eventually.
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I think you're genuinely just dumb. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with psychology. It's just currently the most plausible and useful explanation for what it's trying to describe. We make and rely on theories constantly in our daily lives. You theorize everyone you meet is another living thing and not a machine because there's no reason to believe otherwise, and tonnes of reasons to believe it.
Saying we keep finding fossils of humanoid like creatures, but who aren't exactly human is because we evolved is useful. Not saying anything about it because we can't say anything for sure is just primitive.
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On May 21 2009 02:28 omninmo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2009 02:19 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 21 2009 02:16 omninmo wrote:
all life on this planet was given to it by the others. call them gods or aliens or anunaki or whatever. evolution is the "science" that the eugenicist elites force feed you. the masses are just as dogmatic about their beloved science as they ever were about religion. Then who created the gods/aliens/anunaki? You haven't explained anything, just put another step into the process and then felt smug because you aren't one of the 'masses'. I'm guessing you haven't heard of or don't care about occam's razor, but it is ok because nobody with half a brain cares about what you or your kind say anyways. You are just light entertainment to the scientific community they enjoy between learning the truth and using it to save your life/make it better. science has use. it is the most useful. but it is only useful in amplifying our senses to make measurement easier. science cannot explain the world. it can only measure it. science doesnt lie but scientists do. the fact that we try to account for the most dynamic process on our planet with one neat "theory" says more about our species than any previous or future ones. the theory of evolution has more to do with human psychology than biology. i wasnt trying to explain anything. i was merely trolling because those who know don't speak and those who speak don't know.
'One neat theory.'
What do you think evolutionary biologists study in graduate school. You think they go in one day and are told the definition of evolution and then that's it? No, if is not 'one neat theory', it is a very complex explanation of what occurs in biology. However dumb people boil it down to a straw man argument that they then attack with their high school education and proclaim themselves the victor because 'science cannot explain the world, only measure it.' I suppose we developed computers just by measuring? No, we can explain the specific components and the electrical science going on inside. Your worldview is pathetic. I'll let you go back to thinking you know everything though.
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best of luck to all those who would try to catch evolution in the act. "proving" such theories is of anecdotal significance at best. i think some king back in the day had some lackeys... they used "science" to prove a flat earth, witches, plague coming from masturbation, angels, etc.
Wow hahaha. Okay. So one person says 'hey look, we found a tonne of fossils, and they look like they slowly get more and more like us... Maybe we're a part of this chain.' You say 'No. I don't know how they got there, or have a better explanation, but just no.'
You can't really compare science and pseudo-science and expect anyone to take you seriously either. Claiming someone is a witch because they have a mole is nothing like claiming something might be evolved from something else because they complete a very logical chain.
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This theory would require an entire species, or at least one male and one female, to evolve into the exact same thing at relatively the same time.
Thank you for the laughs. Your understanding of what evolution says is too limited for this to be worthwhile, you need to start reading some basic textbooks to understand what it is you're arguing against.
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On May 21 2009 02:34 Chef wrote:
I think you're genuinely just dumb. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with psychology. It's just currently the most plausible and useful explanation for what it's trying to describe. We make and rely on theories constantly in our daily lives. You theorize everyone you meet is another living thing and not a machine because there's no reason to believe otherwise, and tonnes of reasons to believe it.
Saying we keep finding fossils of humanoid like creatures, but who aren't exactly human is because we evolved is useful. Not saying anything about it because we can't say anything for sure is just primitive.
im not talking about your psych 101 class joey. i am talking about psychological causes. what does the Ida do for us? great, so now we have PROOOOOVED that darwin was "right". now what?
all the problems are still there. you think the opposition to evolution will be this and be like, "oh, well what were we thinking? here's the proof and i cant argue with that". science relies on faith just as much as faith relies on fear.
why you guys being so defensive? can you not imagine a world without grandma lucy?
On May 21 2009 02:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
your worldview is pathetic. I'll let you go back to thinking you know everything though.
misdirected hostility? i dont know anything man. well, i do know that you seem to be a really pious believer in evolutionary theories.
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This thread.
This thread, man.
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Here it goes:
What's really crazy isn't evolution, it's how the world is only 6,000 years old.
I agree that one species can't suddenly turn into another: I'm sure we all know the difference between Pokemon and the real world (pikachu --> RAICHU). As for hydra --> lurker or mutalisk --> guardian, that doesn't really happen unless you're thinking caterpillar --> butterfly.
Evolution is a gradual process, heavily influenced by the environment and works through natural selection. Sit in on an anthropology lecture on evolution or something, they're quite common in universities, unless of course, you visit institutions like Liberty University or something (http://www.liberty.edu/academics/index.cfm?PID=9821)
Another thing: Superspecies? It's unclear what you mean by that term. Wouldn't any species be considered a superspecies in its own environment since it is well-suited? Certain adaptations are advantageous and some or not, but that depends on the conditions involved. Consider the following situation:
A zergling with burrow is able to escape detection by a passing mnm force while a zergling without burrow is cornered and killed. Assuming that all zerglings can mate and reproduce, the successful ones that can burrow will multiply and the majority population of zerglings will possess this trait (burrow).
This is also a good time to note that populations evolve, not individuals.
Now, consider the modification: the terrans have a sci vessel following them around and they are able to kill the burrowed zerglings (assume that they're always burrowed), while they are killing these burrowed zerglings, the ones that can't burrow are able to run away. Thus the population composition starts shifting to more zerglings that can't burrow.
There's also certain trade-offs as mentioned earlier in the thread. In a drier environment where food is scarce, birds (think Darwin's finches, I can't find any starcraft references for this one). The finches have to resort to less ideal resources such as bigger seeds with harder shells (small seeds are ideal because they're easy to crack and eat --> expend less energy eating them). Finches with bigger beaks can crack open the shells and so they can be successful in that environment: they reproduce and there are more birds with bigger beaks. Of course, you might wonder why it is super-rare to find a bird with a super massive beak (a superanimal if you will, as per the observation that you only find finches with a maximum sized beak). Certain anomalies that arise spontaneously (due to diverse gene pools, mutations, etc.) that do yield finches with these supermassive beaks would be eliminated from the population because their beaks may cost alot of energy to maintain or they're too heavy: there's some disadvantage with larger beaks but there are advantages to the larger beaks in the drier environment over smaller beaks.
For a non-biological expample: traits can also be behaviors. Think of them as like strategies in starcraft. Good strategies that have been developed are "replicated" in a sense that other gamers start adopting their build orders, timings, etc. When the "environment" changes such as new counter-strategies/timings, etc. are found, the previous strategy becomes less viable and becomes used less and less.
I tried making this as relevant to tl.net, entertaining, and educational as possible. Thanks for reading.
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On May 21 2009 02:32 Boonbag wrote:
Creatures don't evolve. They either merge or morph and outrange you, eventually.
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You must be trolling lol.
Hereditary traits and genetic mutations in human beings are enough for me to believe in evolution, let alone all the fossils that strongly suggest it's true. I'm not saying it's infallible and there might be another cause... But there's nothing to suggest it yet.
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On May 21 2009 02:49 koreasilver wrote:
This thread.
This thread, man.
i was waiting for this post. i think my work here is done.
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MORPH AND OUTRANGE YOU.
edit: holy lol, you talk about the anunaki.
Wait, Tristan, is that you?
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MORPH AND HIDE IN A WHOLE UNTIL YOU ARE JUST ABOVE ME AND THEN HIT 'S'.
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Just tell him to read Darwin... or even some basic research on 'evolution' on wikipedia. Why waste our time explaining something so basic that have been detailed so many times... You and your 'friend' are some really lazy bums. ¬¬
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Why don't we just get it over with become 4teamliquid-chan? -.-
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