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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-03 04:24:10
March 29 2009 13:26 GMT
#1
1) Tabs?

Personally, I just google.

I'm looking for good tabs like similar to this one : http://www.allguitartabs.com/f/44625/download (Insomnium- The elder)

or this one: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/a/all_that_remains/and_death_in_my_arms_power_tab.htm (All that remains- And death in my arms)


Usually don't find good tabs for songs i like.

http://www.killrbuckeye.com/Tabulature.shtml <- Also, i went here for some decent tabs.

and http://www.mxtabs.net/

Also, i've actually found some tabs on youtube o_o


There's been two threads (but way back in 2005) and i wanted something more updated, so i was wondering if anyone had a good site/search engine they use to locate tabs.

Or you could just post your favorite song/tab in this thread.

2) Backing Music

I asked my friend how to get good at guitar and he told me to just play songs i like(hence the tabs question) and just mess around with scales.

I was wondering if anyone had instrumentals similar to this:
[url blocked]
-fun to play along too

3) What kind of guitar/amp should i buy?

I'm just practicing with a cheap acoustic and I've been meaning to get an amp and guitar for a while now.
I guess price range 200-500, electric.

4) Any tips?

The whole point of doing all this is to practice and sound better, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 29 2009 13:44 GMT
#2
3)

what kind of music do you play?

500 USD is not a lot of moneys for both e. guitar and an amp.

1) ultimate-guitar.com

for every wannabe guitarists

4) do it every day, at least for half an hour, and do it systematically. learn chords, scales and progressions. it will blend in with time.

2) get a metronome, all u need.
I am not good with quotes
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 13:50 GMT
#3

3)

what kind of music do you play?

Stuff like the first tab i posted (insomnium)
Just working on getting stuff clean, i can play fast enough.

500 USD is not a lot of moneys for both e. guitar and an amp.

yeah ... i'll save up <__<
i can just borrow my friends amp/cord afterwards


1) ultimate-guitar.com

for every wannabe guitarists

google likes to re-direct me here a lot


2) get a metronome, all u need.

I have one, had to get it for orchestra class back in the day (cello)
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 29 2009 13:55 GMT
#4
well, as for the gear with that style, you should look into jackson and ibanez electric guitars. they have a nice scale of prices for their gear. especially ibanez, they have nice guitars for like 200 USD.

as for the amp, 300 USD will not get you a good tube amp, so go for quality solid state, i would highly recommend Roland Cube amps ( 15, 30 or 60W versions, depending on how much you own) or hybrid amps (those have tubes in the preamp) like Peavey TransTube amps or VOX VT series.
I am not good with quotes
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 14:11:52
March 29 2009 14:11 GMT
#5
Thanks.
Have any advice for vibrato? I do this thing where i use my finger to make like... mini- bends, back and forth, which actually sounds a lot better than when i try normal vibrato ( like on a cello ).
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 14:27:56
March 29 2009 14:27 GMT
#6
learn2ultimateguitar?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/

Also, if you haven't tried Powertab before then by all means give it a shot! Personally, I prefer it over Guitar Pro.
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
March 29 2009 14:33 GMT
#7
There's no real meaning in "working on getting stuff clean, i can play fast enough.". Fast = meaningless if it's not clean. Get a metronome and go reaaaaaly slow at first and go slowly your way up. If it's not played clean, it's not played right. If you can't play it correctly slow, there's no way it will be clean (and I mean the "really clean" sound) at a faster speed. And go really basic at first. I started playing chromatics again really slowly but 100% correctly (or as close as I could get to that).

It can be frustrating at first, but for me after a while I really enjoyed (and still am enjoying) the process cause this is what helped me more than anything and I made heaps of improvement. It's very unlikely you've got all the basics mastered. In my opinion, someone who has mastered the basics is an awesome guitar player, but unfortunately it's too easy to get caught up in your excitement and anticipation and think you're past that and start going more complex, even though you know it's not sounding as good as it should.


And why are you still looking for tabs nowadays? Never heard of Guitar Pro? You can find pretty accurate transcriptions of most popular (and not only) songs for GP and it's really anything anyone could ask for to work on his own. In my experience you can never run out of things you want to learn how to play. Also, if you can't find accurate guitar pro tabs (rare, but happens) you can always search to download pdfs of the official books with transcriptions of the bands you like (it's not that hard with some basic google skills).
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 14:43 GMT
#8
On March 29 2009 23:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
learn2ultimateguitar?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/

Also, if you haven't tried Powertab before then by all means give it a shot! Personally, I prefer it over Guitar Pro.

the first tab i listed were actually guitar pro, i was just asking if anyone had better sites ( just wondered )
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 14:50 GMT
#9

There's no real meaning in "working on getting stuff clean, i can play fast enough.". Fast = meaningless if it's not clean. Get a metronome and go reaaaaaly slow at first and go slowly your way up. If it's not played clean, it's not played right. If you can't play it correctly slow, there's no way it will be clean (and I mean the "really clean" sound) at a faster speed. And go really basic at first. I started playing chromatics again really slowly but 100% correctly (or as close as I could get to that).

yeah playing fast without it being clean is meaningless
that's what i basically said , i thought. Guess i need to take English again
I also do what you've described by starting slow and going faster when it's clean.
its weird on guitar though, idk how to get a note clean in general
Like, in orchestra u can vibrato the note, but on guitar it doesn't sound as distinct(unless u bend it)


In my opinion, someone who has mastered the basics is an awesome guitar player, but unfortunately it's too easy to get caught up in your excitement and anticipation and think you're past that and start going more complex, even though you know it's not sounding as good as it should.

guilty <__<
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 15:21:54
March 29 2009 15:05 GMT
#10
All I meant was that you said "I can play fast, I just need to play it clean". Then you can't really play fast If you didn't mean it like this, just scratch that, didn't mean to offend you or anything

For tabs, I've just downloaded from torrents a pack with a collection of a few thousand tabs (should be easy to find with a simple torrent search). I rarely recall having to go search anywhere else for a tab, and that was just at the first few sites that appeared at google for "guitar pro tabs". It just happened this was never a problem for me, but I suppose it also has to do with the songs you're looking for, maybe it's hard to find new songs of less popular bands.

Vibrato in electric guitar is different from classical instruments. In electric you do an "up and down" motion, in classical you do "left and right". It's not the same.

I'm not sure how it is in cello, but I'm guessing it's similar to classical guitar (which is where what I said applies).

Also, make note that in classical guitar your left hand fingers are supposed to be vertical to the neck, whereas in electrical they're supposed to be at an angle (as if kind of pointing towards you) to achieve optimal clarity. Hope this makes sense..
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 29 2009 15:50 GMT
#11
1) Tabs?
I use 911tabs which includes results from many sources:
http://www.911tabs.com/guitar_tabs/

Similar to the KillrBuckeye site, another one with high-quality tabs (mostly metal tabs though, like Killr) is musicman1066: http://www.freewebs.com/musicman1066/

Also if you weren't aware, both of them have YouTube channels and play the covers extremely well.

I also use a program called Guitar Pro, and download Guitar Pro tabs for it (you can also find them on 911tabs). You're more likely to find higher quality (more accurate) tabs by downloading the Guitar Pro version of it. It basically is like having a tablature book in front of you, but it also plays the song for your while you watch the tablature go by on the screen. You can repeat certain portions of the song that give you trouble by putting it on loop, and you can even slow down music up to 75% (playing the song, or part of the song at 25% of the original speed without affecting the pitch)! Highly recommended for any serious guitar player.

2) Backing Music

Guitar Pro is your best bet here. Although playing along with a metronome is "okay", some songs really should be played with the band in the background. I use the metronome most often with my exercises (practicing picking different rhythms using chords, as well as practicing lead guitar with scales and solos).

Something else you can do is buy a mid-level multi-effects pedal - they inevitably will include a customizable drum machine (you can alter the type of drum rhythm used, it's speed, and it's volume on mine).

3) What kind of guitar/amp should i buy?

I highly recommend trying out guitars before you buy them. And I also don't recommend buying a guitar less than $200. Different guitars have different feels to them, so I won't recommend anything specific.

4) Any tips?

Setup a basic practice regimen that you can stick to. Even if it only ends up being a total of 15 minutes 3 or 4 times a week, it's better than 1 day playing for hours straight. Some ideas for things to concentrate on while practicing:

* Ear Training. There's a variety of ways to practice this. I prefer getting my guitar in tune, hearing what each string sounds like when in tune, then loosening all the strings except the low E and tuning to that. Verify with an actual tuner before moving onto the next string.

* Chord Training. Learn the basic open chords (major and minor - then later on practice other chords), and focus on having all the notes come out cleanly, as well as smoothly and efficiently moving from one chord to the next.

* Rhythm Training. Put the metronome at a moderate tempo, and practice different rhythms of quarter notes, eighth notes, and sixteenth notes using the chords you know.

* Lead Training. Buy a book that details the different positions each scale can be played in, and practice playing them along with a metronome.

A great free site for basic, intermediate, and advanced guitar lessons is Justinguitar.com:
http://www.justinguitar.com/

He includes videos for almost every lesson.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 16:06 GMT
#12
Thanks a lot!
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 16:08 GMT
#13

Also, make note that in classical guitar your left hand fingers are supposed to be vertical to the neck, whereas in electrical they're supposed to be at an angle (as if kind of pointing towards you) to achieve optimal clarity. Hope this makes sense..

makes perfect sense, thanks. I play more classically when im higher on the fret board and "electrically" when im lower strings/frets if that makes sense. Harder to vibrato the way im used to, on lower frets because your wrist is arched like that.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 29 2009 16:21 GMT
#14
you will find the best position to play while standing, it comes naturally.

http://www.adamlevy.com/lessons/index.htm

this guy has got some great tips. as EscPlan9 noted, justin guitar is a great teacher, at basic and advanced levels of play.

have fun and don't over practice, enjoy it, somewhat like starcraft.

I am not good with quotes
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 17:13 GMT
#15

that's basically how fast i play a scale

- i was wondering if TL could point out errors and stuff.

then the vibrato thing... (i meant to say higher frets the second time <__<)
Is it because my posture is wrong?
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-29 17:19:24
March 29 2009 17:17 GMT
#16
1) As already stated several times, ultimateguitar.com. Alot of the tabs are fairly inaccurate, but if you have a halfway decent ear it should be pretty easy to correct any mistakes you find there.

2) http://www.freejamtracks.com/
I use that to practice coming up with basslines.

3) http://www.rondomusic.com/ More specifically the SX models. I don't know how their guitars are, but their basses are awesome for their price (even the low low ones) so I'd hope that their guitars have similar quality. The amps they sell aren't very good, but if it's just for practice then they should get the job done.

Although I'd recommend looking up craigslist/ebay/garage sales. You probably get 2-3x the quality for the same price by buying used.

4) Find a teacher/tutor or whatever to teach you the basics in terms of proper posture, fingering, etc. Scales and theory you can easily learn yourself, but I've heard a load of stories of people basically having to relearn to play the guitar after realizing their technique is horrible and is holding them back. A session or two with a competent teacher should get you going.

Also as already stated, practice, practice, practice.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 17:18 GMT
#17

4) Find a teacher/tutor or whatever to teach you the basics in terms of proper posture, fingering, etc. Scales and theory you can easily learn yourself, but I've heard a load of stories of people basically having to relearn to play the guitar after realizing their technique is horrible and is holding them back. A session or two with a competent teacher should get you going.

uh o
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 29 2009 17:32 GMT
#18
For 300-500 dollars, don't expect to get anything of decent quality in guitar or amp. But if you're just starting off then just buy a cheap but playable guitar and some tiny amp to carry around. I think it's best to just buy a simple guitar and a simple amp with none of that onboard effects shit.

I started off with a cheapo Ibanez and a 20watt solid state Orange amp. Although I've sold my Ibanez to my friend and have almost never played on the little Orange amp since I've gotten my Ampeg V4, the two cheap pieces of equipment was what I taught myself with for a good two years, and even though the Ibanez was a pure piece of shit, I learned how to play with it, and that's all that really matters.

Don't really try to look for sound quality, especially in the lower end guitars. Just find something that feels really comfortable to play; that's arguably the most important thing to look for.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 29 2009 17:35 GMT
#19

Don't really try to look for sound quality, especially in the lower end guitars. Just find something that feels really comfortable to play; that's arguably the most important thing to look for.

ok thanks.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
March 29 2009 17:49 GMT
#20
What a strange place to look for musicianship advice. The internet?

Go talk to the music teacher at your school.
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