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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
But what does zerg have to do? 5so6so7so SUPPLY GG... LOL .5 SECONDS AND I HAVE LIKE 50 MORE SUPPLY NOW IM GONNA EXPAND AGAIN HAHAHAA AND they get a damn dropship, scout, and detector all in one! Poll: Your opinion? (Vote): He's right (Vote): He's protoss (Vote): He's drunk   | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
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stanley_
United States816 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
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prOxi.Beater
Denmark626 Posts
And have fun with your 20 overlords! | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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Eternity
France69 Posts
One probe can build a whole base whereas Terran need one SCV per building and Zerg have to balance larva in drone / lord / units. Taking one probe and doing Pylon Pylon Pylon doesnt take that much time ... true 1sO goes faster but your not spending those 3 larva on units. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
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Kim_Hyun_Han
706 Posts
protoss is ez | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Anyone who says protoss is obviously easier and doesn't change to protoss is just stupid or unwilling to admit they suck. | ||
Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On March 09 2009 22:18 Nytefish wrote: Well I suppose saying zerg macro is 5so6so7so is just like saying toss micro is just 1a2a3a, in that they're both highly inaccurate statements only said by newbies and whiners. But it's usually terrans who say toss is 1a2a3a anyway. Anyone who says protoss is obviously easier and doesn't change to protoss is just stupid or unwilling to admit they suck. One is largely more accurate than the other. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Well in my mind anything less accurate than my inaccurate and arbitrary definition of accuracy of statements is inaccurate enough to accurately judge as intolerably inaccurate. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Zortch
Canada635 Posts
I lose 6-10 pylons all the time to a bunch of stacked up mutalisks. Their splash damage once they get +1 weapons is crazy powerful! | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Well, its not entirely incorrect, depending on how you interpret it. Protoss is easier at low-level play, but at high levels, when races reach their potential, it balances out. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7886 Posts
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KingofHearts
Japan562 Posts
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skronch
United States2717 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On March 09 2009 23:41 skronch wrote: I think what is funny is how many people are taking this post seriously Good we have you too balance it up ha? anyway, I just love it when people constantly find little aspects of game that are easier for one race than the other, and then, in the moment of frustration after a loss, pulling the analogy to the entire race being easier that the other. It's cute imo. But I hate the fact that some people still wont admit that protoss is the simplest and cleanest race to play. Nobody says they're stronger, but they surely are the race with the least bullshit to put up with. Don't fucking argue with me. or if you will, plz put it in a spoiler so I dont accidentaly glance over it. | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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ManBearPig
Belgium207 Posts
On March 10 2009 00:30 niteReloaded wrote: Good we have you too balance it up ha? anyway, I just love it when people constantly find little aspects of game that are easier for one race than the other, and then, in the moment of frustration after a loss, pulling the analogy to the entire race being easier that the other. It's cute imo. But I hate the fact that some people still wont admit that protoss is the simplest and cleanest race to play. Nobody says they're stronger, but they surely are the race with the least bullshit to put up with. Don't fucking argue with me. or if you will, plz put it in a spoiler so I dont accidentaly glance over it. There's so many people saying protoss is the easiest race, however, I've never seen any real arguments or reasons. Saying '1a2a3a' is not an argument. Saying they macro easy is not an argument without quite an extensive explanation. I don't want to argue with you, although I disagree, because I don't think that will do any good. However, I would like you (or someone else if they feel up to it) to explain why you think protoss is the easiest race. I can't think of any convincing reasons myself, so I'm curious really. Maybe you'll even sway me over to the dark side. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
maybe i just like playing zerg? | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
Plus it's not like you are going to lose many anyway, zergs lose overlords all game long which stunts their production. And is it really that hard to place down 5 pylons @ a time? It's not like you really need to watch your army anyway lol. But I will agree with you having them all as detectors and drop ships are pretty handy. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Not what is easiest. | ||
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15vs1
64 Posts
On March 10 2009 04:10 ManBearPig wrote: There's so many people saying protoss is the easiest race, however, I've never seen any real arguments or reasons. Saying '1a2a3a' is not an argument. Saying they macro easy is not an argument without quite an extensive explanation. I don't want to argue with you, although I disagree, because I don't think that will do any good. However, I would like you (or someone else if they feel up to it) to explain why you think protoss is the easiest race. I can't think of any convincing reasons myself, so I'm curious really. Maybe you'll even sway me over to the dark side. It does not require any explaination because it is just observation. It is quite easy to find C-/C protoss with apm about 120 (dont know about higher levels) but all terrans at this rank have at least 150 apm. Protoss mechanics is the easiest and many terrans play PvT, protoss players on the contrary almost never play TvP. The new maps design to be balanced at progamers level. But if map is balanced for A+ players it will be really bad for D+. The good example is python, there was so many whinings about how it is unbalanced in TvP but TLPD statistics shows that it is terran favoured map!!! So protoss are stronger at lower levels but only because everyone use pro maps and these maps are supposed to be balanced only for pro players. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On March 10 2009 04:10 ManBearPig wrote: There's so many people saying protoss is the easiest race, however, I've never seen any real arguments or reasons. Saying '1a2a3a' is not an argument. Saying they macro easy is not an argument without quite an extensive explanation. I don't want to argue with you, although I disagree, because I don't think that will do any good. However, I would like you (or someone else if they feel up to it) to explain why you think protoss is the easiest race. I can't think of any convincing reasons myself, so I'm curious really. Maybe you'll even sway me over to the dark side. Sometimes practical experience can give you a better clue than a long elaboration (that I wouldn't know how to make on this subject properly btw.) So, just try reaching C- with all 3 races, then come back here. And I challenge anyone to do this. Reach C- with all races and then say which was the least trouble. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
On March 10 2009 04:54 anderoo wrote: I don't understand why people say "if you think protoss is easier but you dont switch to protoss you must just suck" maybe i just like playing zerg? Ok fair enough, I'm just sick of people who make the blanket statement "protoss is the easiest race" without defining what they mean by easy. And somehow a terran or zerg of the same rank as a protoss is "a better player" because they don't play toss. Again you can make a case for it, but simply saying "better" is vague and annoying. | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On March 10 2009 05:49 niteReloaded wrote: So, just try reaching C- with all 3 races, then come back here. And I challenge anyone to do this. Reach C- with all races and then say which was the least trouble. I don't think that's a good experiment. I think the order that you learn the races matters. It's easier to go from switch from terran to protoss or vice versa because of similar mechanics. Also, I think it's easier to go from zerg to any of the other races, but that's only from personal experience. In addition, once you get to C- in any of the races, you already have the basics APM, mechanics, and understanding of two of the matchups. In conclusion, I don't think that learning all three races allows you to say which is the easiest to play or to get good with. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On March 09 2009 23:24 Biff The Understudy wrote: More I read teamliquid, more I regret to play terran. siege tank. stfu im T too haha i know, | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
I think eVaDe was the god of terran, nobody realizes it tho. | ||
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koreasilver
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 11 2009 04:39 Racenilatr wrote: your so dam stupid. Protoss CANT 1a2a3a. It's just a silly thing people say because some people just cant macro for shit. Also so isn't THAT hard, but that's probably just me. For some reason, I have a hard time reaching M for marine and end up hitting , or n so I am going to assume it's just me that thinks 4so5so6so7so is easy to reach Yes you can, actually. Sometimes I play PvT and once I get 3 control groups of zeal/goon I just attack move the natural and win 50% of my games against D terrans. But you have to macro, yeah. Easiest macro of any race. | ||
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Tinithor
United States1552 Posts
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On March 11 2009 03:34 Xeris wrote: Terran's fucking easy because all you have to do is build siege tanks + 2343454 turrets + lay mines and wait until Protoss gets so pissed off he runs his maxed army into you and dies then you move out. I think eVaDe was the god of terran, nobody realizes it tho. Ok thanks for the advice Next time I play TvP I'll gather the 175759050+ mins to make 2343454 turrets, seige tanks and vultures and I'll win Btw if you want to get rid of the 1a2a3a4a5a joke next time include some 8s or 9s in your post | ||
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