So today was the day that Karl Rove was supposed to appear before the House Judiciary committee to testify about the US Attorney firings. And of course, Rove didn't show.
That wasn't a surprise. After getting the deadline pushed back, Rove had already publicly indicated he didn't plan on being there, citing President Bush's claim of executive privilege. Rove's lawyer had then asked for a second postponement, a request that Judiciary chair John Conyers had declined to grant.
It's a bit unclear where things go now. The next key date is March 4th -- the new deadline for the Obama administration to weigh in on the Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten case, in which President Bush also asserted executive privilege. The new administration's stance on that case could well also determine how a judge would rule on the Rove case, should the issue go to court.
And given Rove's continuing failure to cooperate, it looks like that's where we're heading.
An average citizen would have his/her ass in cuffs by now for ignoring any type of subpoena, let alone one from Congress. Yet this fuck will probably be a guest on Fox tonight.
agreed. The awesome abuse of power sub-9/11 is nothing if not exceptional.
I joined the military based upon the attacks of september 11, the more i think on it and the more the governments actions come to light i realize that i've made a critical error.
Expecting a correlation to common-folk is far-fetched. Even if this man wasnt politically connected and only rich there would be a very large divide between actions taken towards him and us peons.
Our country has lost its ideals and morals. We are fittin for a revolution sometime in the next 15 to 30 years. All empires and great nations fall. Its what we rebuild it as that matters now.
Not the least be surprised to be honest. Executive privilege is an ok idea in theory, but the way Bush exploited it is just grotesque. Hope the scumbags get what they deserve.
On February 24 2009 07:42 Rebel_lion wrote: agreed. The awesome abuse of power sub-9/11 is nothing if not exceptional.
I joined the military based upon the attacks of september 11, the more i think on it and the more the governments actions come to light i realize that i've made a critical error.
Expecting a correlation to common-folk is far-fetched. Even if this man wasnt politically connected and only rich there would be a very large divide between actions taken towards him and us peons.
Our country has lost its ideals and morals. We are fittin for a revolution sometime in the next 15 to 30 years. All empires and great nations fall. Its what we rebuild it as that matters now.
Your post, put in the context of your name(read as one word), becomes really funny
I think you're exaggerating a little bit, if a 'revolution' of some sort may happen, but I really doubt it'll be the classical 'revolution', with people protesting and going berserk in the streets
An average citizen would have his/her ass in cuffs by now for ignoring any type of subpoena, let alone one from Congress. Yet this fuck will probably be a guest on Fox tonight.
no, i'm a outright revolutionary and conflict theorist. I believe only warfare between government and people will liberate us from an already bankrupt (morally) system.
I'm for arming the people and instigating brutal and deadly conflict.
it may be wrong and i may be extreme but this country has had up too 200 years to corrupt our ideals. A refreshing is in order.
I dont believe such wide change can be accomplished without massive populace warfare.
Well, Thomas Jefferson believed that every generation was entitled to its own revolution to update the political system. Who knows what the U.S. is entitled to in the next decade or beyond. Look at brief bouts of rioting in England over the current economic crisis. Once prominent government officials openly defy law, (not saying they haven't already done so, but in a time such as this where accountability is so crucial) it could set dangerous precedents. Sadly to say, the possibilities are endless.
On February 24 2009 10:58 Rebel_lion wrote: no, i'm a outright revolutionary and conflict theorist. I believe only warfare between government and people will liberate us from an already bankrupt (morally) system.
I'm for arming the people and instigating brutal and deadly conflict.
it may be wrong and i may be extreme but this country has had up too 200 years to corrupt our ideals. A refreshing is in order.
I dont believe such wide change can be accomplished without massive populace warfare.
What ideals are you talking about? When Adams instituted the Alien & Sedition act? When Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus? When FDR put people in prison camps, attempted to overload the Supreme Court and tried to fix prices? Give me a break.
The virtue of modern democracy is that power changes without bloodshed. Quit being an ideologue and start thinking about things in at least a semi-practical matter. Start fighting for statutory laws and sunset clauses, not a mythological end to "moral bankruptcy." Ever read Animal Farm? That's you, if you had your way.
On February 24 2009 11:28 A Cup of Zerg wrote: Well, Thomas Jefferson believed that every generation was entitled to its own revolution to update the political system.
Yes, and we get it every 4 (and 2) years. That's what Jefferson was talking about. He didn't foresee today's one party system.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. - we will see what the new admins do, the country is in dire need of a purge and mass bannings
Joking aside, yeah it is sad, even more so the apathy surrounding this an many other issues. We are all so into our lives so who takes the time to go do something about it except for vote differently every now and then? Outrage without action is fruitless and I am as guilty as the next guy, I admit it. It is a pity though the people elected to work on this, and paid too, drag their asses or go on about business as usual.
I respect your point and believe it intresting you bring up Animal Farm.
I see us living the book now. You see it as the end of my means.
Sanely speaking, you got me. Rational does that. Insanely speaking my proliferated arms will remain oiled and my fliers waiting to be passed out.
The insane have a long track record of being wrong. Thats not to say one was never right. Your examples of government overreach are provacative. It is my contention that our government grows more bold and more outright amblivelant to our concerns and worries.
Oh, you're right that it is growing more out of control. I just don't think we need to shoot anyone for it, and I'm someone who usually wishes there was more radicalism in the US.
EPT
