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2 Starcraft Questions that always nagged me

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tdotkrayz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States136 Posts
February 17 2009 05:52 GMT
#1
Okay, I have two things that really bothered me about the game. No, I'm not gonna talk about gameplay, I'm gonna ask about the story.

First of all, what is the mechanism by which dark swarm operates? I always assumed that it makes all ranged units miss because they can't see anything under the swarm to fire accuratedly but that's just silly if you have like 50 marines shooting into it at once. So wtf, how can dark swarm protect units from ranged attacks but not melee or splash?

Second of all, on certain maps, there is a huge (and I mean gigantic) fossil sitting on the ground. I mean, this creature is as big as a freaking command center. It's huuuuuuuge and it's even got a scorpion tail! Wtf is it? I really want to know this.

Yeah, that's all. If someone answered these questions, they would make my day.

*
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
February 17 2009 05:59 GMT
#2
i remember thinking about the fossil thing when i first started bw and i actually looked at the map scenery
pretty sure it was never explained in the story though
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 06:01:23
February 17 2009 06:01 GMT
#3
dark swarm is abunch of insects that the defiler throws from its body to take the ranged hits
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
February 17 2009 06:02 GMT
#4
1. The ranged units cannot see anything. And adding a random hit/miss would be against one of the key points to a competitive game, no random factors.

The splash damage obviously does apply, since the explosion still happens, just not directly on the unit, and melee units stand in fron of their enemy to hit them, so they hit. Now, why do ranged units miss a melee unit, even if the melee unit is hitting them? Well, might aswell ask why a command center can't land directly near the minerals. It's just how the game works.

2. Its a space dinosaur, duh.
ff7legend
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States213 Posts
February 17 2009 06:02 GMT
#5
i ask my self the same thing about the big Mech things in the water.
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zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
February 17 2009 06:04 GMT
#6
I thought dark swarm was supposed to work by a blinding effect, not actual protection, which is why if you look closely you can see ranged attacks missing targets in dark swarm.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 17 2009 06:05 GMT
#7

And adding a random hit/miss would be against one of the key points to a competitive game, no random factors.

lol bs in sc the supposed 70% hit miss for elevated thing is bull; more like 30% imo.
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
February 17 2009 06:09 GMT
#8
You answered the first question yourself, really. Since you can't see anything from a distance, you will just be firing randomly with little or no chance of hitting (no chance in the case of the blizzard implementation of dark swarm). However, units can see other units up close, so that's why melee units are successful. Does it make sense that marines can target lurkers in dark swarm but don't actually hit them? No. Does it make sense that a marine directly next to a zergling in a darkswarm can't shoot it? No. Oh well.

As for the second question, it's probably just a decoration. The bones are most likely supposed to represent creatures native to the environments of the maps.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 17 2009 06:17 GMT
#9
How can Lurkers burrow so quickly on a map like Andromeda where the floor is METAL?

Much less units not made specifically for burrowing like Hydralisks and Zerglings.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 17 2009 06:20 GMT
#10
maybe the darkswarm makes all projectiles null because it reduces the force and all that physics stuff. it's a product of the overmind. only the overmind knows
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 17 2009 06:31 GMT
#11
On February 17 2009 15:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How can Lurkers burrow so quickly on a map like Andromeda where the floor is METAL?

Much less units not made specifically for burrowing like Hydralisks and Zerglings.

Hahaha, this made me smile
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 17 2009 06:34 GMT
#12
no seriously guys read the starcraft manuals and stuff, dark swarm is a bunch of bugs that take the bullets and such.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
February 17 2009 06:39 GMT
#13
If we're asking weird things about SC, I got one:

Why the hell are BCs and Carriers so small? Seriously. Like, a Zergling's bigger than an Interceptor lol xD
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 17 2009 06:41 GMT
#14
On February 17 2009 15:34 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
no seriously guys read the starcraft manuals and stuff, dark swarm is a bunch of bugs that take the bullets and such.

http://www.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/defiler.shtml
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Dark Swarm is created from a countless number of smaller creatures that typically cover the Defiler. The Defiler has the natural ability to launch these creatures to a projected position, creating a thick cloud of living insects that prevent any units outside from accurately targeting any units within the cloud.


:O!
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
February 17 2009 06:42 GMT
#15
On February 17 2009 15:02 h3r1n6 wrote:
1. The ranged units cannot see anything. And adding a random hit/miss would be against one of the key points to a competitive game, no random factors.

The splash damage obviously does apply, since the explosion still happens, just not directly on the unit, and melee units stand in fron of their enemy to hit them, so they hit. Now, why do ranged units miss a melee unit, even if the melee unit is hitting them? Well, might aswell ask why a command center can't land directly near the minerals. It's just how the game works.

2. Its a space dinosaur, duh.


Space dinosaur, duh. Sig worthy.
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 17 2009 06:51 GMT
#16
On February 17 2009 15:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How can Lurkers burrow so quickly on a map like Andromeda where the floor is METAL?

Much less units not made specifically for burrowing like Hydralisks and Zerglings.

You should be amazed not outraged!

This is even more impressive!
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 17 2009 07:00 GMT
#17
Hahaha this thread makes me laugh. I honestly have no clue. I don't question it, because when I do it's on my mind all day until I get an answer. And there really aren't answers to a lot of these questions.
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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
February 17 2009 07:05 GMT
#18
I wanna know why CC's can't be built next to minerals
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 17 2009 07:11 GMT
#19
On February 17 2009 16:05 GhostKorean wrote:
I wanna know why CC's can't be built next to minerals

I would also like to know what causes the minerals and gas to line up so neatly at all the expansions.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 17 2009 07:12 GMT
#20
On February 17 2009 16:11 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 16:05 GhostKorean wrote:
I wanna know why CC's can't be built next to minerals

I would also like to know what causes the minerals and gas to line up so neatly at all the expansions.

these arcane demigods called mapmakers
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