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So how far can Asians go... trying to act "black"

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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
January 20 2009 08:49 GMT
#1
Until it's considered too much?

Since music is a common medium for most people to relate to, I'll primarily be posting music videos of certain singers

Exhibit A: Crown J's MV "So Fly"


I personally don't care how many times you have "Ayyyyy" or "Ballin!" in your song. I don't even give a rats ass if you have black people in your music video as a representation of trying to validate a song as a true "hip-hop" song. So really what's the point of this song? I personally feel like he's trying to validate his status as a true hip-hop artist in Korea, trying real hard with his image especially in his videos.



Even this song did received success, this single was released after he was well known in that show above... not that "black" in that show huh?

Exhibit B: Accepting what you are usually gains more respect from other people

Jin - Learn Chinese


Quick info on Jin:
Well known freestylist, especially on BET where his freestyling was displayed against other freestylists



Part of Ruff Ryders from 2002-2005/2006ish

The difference here? Granted the opportunities he's had being in America but being part of Ruff Ryders that includes names like DMX, Swizz Beatz, The Lox, speaks volumes for his hip-hop accomplishments. If you noticed in his freestyle and actual music video he doesn't deny that he's asian, if anything he's proud of what he is.

So, one "rapper" is mostly known for appearances in a television show vs. another being mostly known for his music. While one accepts who he is vs. one who tries to show off his bling bling like what typical "black people" might do, which one are you going to critisize less?
Couple of my best friends are black and I know sure as hell that trying to act black in front of them would've turned them off real quickly. I mean seriously what do you guys think?










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Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-20 09:17:21
January 20 2009 09:01 GMT
#2
I like hip hop and rap but the first two songs are sooo bad
they are just pathetic
the rap battle imo the chinese did better thatn the afro american, but tatke into account that I don't get all the things they rapped about coz english isn't my first language

generally I don't give a fuck about skin color as long as the music they produce is good
like afu ra:
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 20 2009 09:09 GMT
#3
Jin's freestyling is pretty good. I guess some Asians act "black" to fit in more and be cool, but it's not that bothersome. It's their choice, so if they want to act like a tough guy let them be.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 20 2009 09:10 GMT
#4
isn't there a difference between acting black and being a part of hip hop culture? i'm not really sure what acting black consists of... i figured the whole baggy clothes, big jewelry, style of talking/walking, music, etc, was just "hip hop culture" and there are people doing that around the world now, not just black people in america.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10406 Posts
January 20 2009 09:21 GMT
#5
I completely agree with you man. Jin is such a joke. Look at those baggy clothes, the crooked braves cap, the gold chain. That guy tries to act so black it's not even funny.
baronsb
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States33 Posts
January 20 2009 09:35 GMT
#6
On January 20 2009 18:21 BlackJack wrote:
I completely agree with you man. Jin is such a joke. Look at those baggy clothes, the crooked braves cap, the gold chain. That guy tries to act so black it's not even funny.

This is false.

First off, the baggy clothes, etc do no consitute "acting black". If a black kid decides to play SC and study math in his free time is he "acting asian". No, he's just doing what he likes/wants to do.

Second, I've seen/been around Jin more than once, and he's not trying to act anything, just a very talented freestyler who isn't afraid or trying to conceal what he is.
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sebu
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States37 Posts
January 20 2009 09:38 GMT
#7
He's being hip hop not black. I don't know where you grew up, but over here it's quite normal for everyone of all races to be hip hop or what you see as being "black"
MaNg0
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States675 Posts
January 20 2009 09:39 GMT
#8
On January 20 2009 18:10 Liquid`NonY wrote:
isn't there a difference between acting black and being a part of hip hop culture? i'm not really sure what acting black consists of... i figured the whole baggy clothes, big jewelry, style of talking/walking, music, etc, was just "hip hop culture" and there are people doing that around the world now, not just black people in america.



this is truth.

if you think they're "acting black" you need to re-think your train of thought.



when will black people stop acting so white?


LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10826 Posts
January 20 2009 10:00 GMT
#9
Jin is legit.
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
January 20 2009 10:21 GMT
#10
Jin is ok but Crown J hell no!
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KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
January 20 2009 11:39 GMT
#11
I don't know but it sure as hell is funny.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 20 2009 13:42 GMT
#12
How far can Asians go trying to be "white"? How far can geeky North Americans go trying to be "Asian"? How far can blacks go trying to be "white"? How far can whites go trying to be "black"?

Are contemporary Asian composers trying to be white because they compose with Western instruments in mind?
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
January 20 2009 13:53 GMT
#13
this is why i listen to underground rap
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-20 18:06:25
January 20 2009 14:36 GMT
#14
Shh you're gonna upset the people who call them selfs aZn.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 20 2009 15:16 GMT
#15
East side.
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
January 20 2009 16:10 GMT
#16
regardless of color, if that was the culture somebody grew up in what gives you the right to call it a "pretending" and "trying to be"?????? Your post just shows very irrational side of you. It is a time of global era where different people of different races are brought up in different cultures. We see white people brought up in a ghetto who act ghetto and asians brought up in US acting totally white. They are not faking but its just the culture they live with. Face it.

Crown J is acceptable to his black friends. And he had even been invited to BET Award by people in hiphop music industry when he was making that m/v in Atlanta, GA. Professionals in hiphop industry don't think he is a black-wanna-be but you do.

Now it is more about where and how you grew up then color of your skin. And when judging about someone, you need more than 3 youtube vids.

IMHO
Boxer is the truth.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
January 20 2009 21:46 GMT
#17
U guys dnt no Azn music.

Dis am da shit:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tWp-DH8OSRU&feature=related

Oh my days,
it's wongage,
chinese boy,
he's not on a longage.

Not. on. a longage. Yes
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
January 20 2009 22:48 GMT
#18
Dude, Jin is sick.
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
January 20 2009 22:53 GMT
#19
They are trying to act "cool", not "black". It just so happens in this day and age that being cool to them means acting like one of those gangster rappers.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 21 2009 03:58 GMT
#20
Apparently some gangsta rappers aren't even gangsta at all.
Some of them don't have the rap sheet that they claim to have, such as Akon (Convict Music? Not really.)

Also, black people weren't even the original gangsters. Real gangsters like those found in the Italian Mafia and the Chinese Triads have existed for centuries.
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