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I doubt anyone will be surprised by these numbers, showing the state of the US in 2001, when Bush entered office, and now, when he's leaving it. From: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/07/1736214.aspx
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE Then: 4.2% (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2001) Now: 6.7% (Bureau of Labor Statistics, November 2008)
DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE Then: 10,587 (close of Friday, Jan. 19, 2001) Now: 9,015 (close of Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2009)
BUSH FAVORABILITY RATING Then: 50% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 31% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
CHENEY FAVORABILITY RATING Then: 49% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
CONGRESS APPROVAL RATING Then: 48% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
SATISFIED WITH THE NATION'S DIRECTION Then: 45% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 26% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
CONSUMER CONFIDENCE (1985=100) Then: 115.7 (Conference Board, January 2001) Now: 38.0, which is an all-time low (Conference Board, December 2008)
FAMILIES LIVING IN POVERTY Then: 6.4 million (Census numbers for 2000) Now: 7.6 million (Census numbers for 2007 -- most recent numbers available)
AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE Then: 39.8 million (Census numbers for 2000) Now: 45.7 million (Census numbers for 2007 -- most recent available)
U.S. BUDGET Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office) Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)
Not alot of people favor Bush, and with good reason it seems. I think democrats and republicans alike are hoping Obama to do better.
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well we deserve it for letting him steal the 2000 election like that
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one good thing happened:
jokes then: many now: many many more
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U.S. BUDGET Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office) Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)
way to go
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Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger.
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On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote: Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger. I agree with this.
A number of the statistics listed have nothing to do with Bush(Dow Jones, consumer confidence, poverty levels), a recession of this nature was inevitable.
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On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote: Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger. how do you figure that?
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if we didnt go into afghanistan and iraq, it wouldn't be so bad
not to mention that most of the terrorists who attacked were saudis
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On January 09 2009 04:32 StarN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote: Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger. how do you figure that?
The US unemployment rate is determined by the booms and busts of the American economy, and the US economy, after riding the credit-expansion booms of the Clinton and Bush years, is long due for a recession. Obama's attempts to prop up the bubble will only make the recession more severe and cause more job losses.
Obama by all indications is going to try to spend our way out of the recession, and we're probably looking at trillion-dollar deficits throughout his term. He is raising spending, cutting taxes, while the overall economy is shrinking. It's not difficult to see the balance there.
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On January 09 2009 04:23 ish0wstopper wrote: well we deserve it for letting him steal the 2000 election like that
Yeah you know we should have done something! Like bomb the white house.... or send an angry letter!
What the fuck do you want us to do?
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More importantly;
People who have an unfavorable opinion of the United States: Then: A couple of guys in the middle east and average joes who get screwed on their tax refunds and threaten to move to Canada Now: Everyone
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On January 09 2009 04:55 Cpt.Cocaine wrote: More importantly;
People who have an unfavorable opinion of the United States: Then: A couple of guys in the middle east and average joes who get screwed on their tax refunds and threaten to move to Canada Now: Everyone America has been hated for a long time. There is more hate now then before, but there was still plenty of hate towards the usa 8 years ago.
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BUSH FAVORABILITY RATING Then: 50% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 31% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
CHENEY FAVORABILITY RATING Then: 49% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
I am still baffled at the %, both then and now.. I would have expected much less just on their views and actions let alone their results.
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On January 09 2009 04:29 poilord wrote: U.S. BUDGET Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office) Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)
way to go
That's weird because I saw a graph and US has always been in debt
And I feel really sorry for Obama, he seems like a real family man, I read an article and he's dedicated to spending time with his wife and his daughters but there's so much crap going on right now.
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On January 09 2009 04:32 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote: Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger. I agree with this. A number of the statistics listed have nothing to do with Bush(Dow Jones, consumer confidence, poverty levels), a recession of this nature was inevitable.
Pretty much.
Most economic indicators have very little to do with the executive office.
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On January 09 2009 05:26 il0seonpurpose wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 04:29 poilord wrote: U.S. BUDGET Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office) Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)
way to go That's weird because I saw a graph and US has always been in debt
The above stat is the annual budget deficit/surplus. Debt is cumulative.
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Bush has 31% favoribility now? Wtf.
I have been against Bush since the beginning and I feel so powerless...
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i guess we shouldn't have done eenie meenie miny moe huh =p
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On January 09 2009 04:22 Hans-Titan wrote: CONGRESS APPROVAL RATING Then: 48% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
Surprise surprise, everyone looked right over this and went straight for the low bush/cheney ratings. Typical
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On January 09 2009 08:55 Fr33t wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 04:22 Hans-Titan wrote: CONGRESS APPROVAL RATING Then: 48% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll) Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)
Surprise surprise, everyone looked right over this and went straight for the low bush/cheney ratings. Typical
- that 1 in 5 still favor Cheney and 1 in 3 still favor Bush is something to be wondered at, a true phucking surprise.. - that 4 out of 5 disapprove of politicians in our current recession is NO surprise, that you would think this is the surprise, does not surprise us - so surprise, surprise, everyone looked right over and went straight for the Fr33t comment only to realize that he is part of that surprising percentage that just doesn't seem to get it.. - the "typical" was just icing on the cake (still laughing here),
- how clever you must feel!
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