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Bush - Now and Then

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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
January 08 2009 19:22 GMT
#1
I doubt anyone will be surprised by these numbers, showing the state of the US in 2001, when Bush entered office, and now, when he's leaving it. From: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/07/1736214.aspx

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
Then: 4.2% (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2001)
Now: 6.7% (Bureau of Labor Statistics, November 2008)

DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE
Then: 10,587 (close of Friday, Jan. 19, 2001)
Now: 9,015 (close of Tuesday, Jan. 6, 2009)

BUSH FAVORABILITY RATING
Then: 50% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 31% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

CHENEY FAVORABILITY RATING
Then: 49% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

CONGRESS APPROVAL RATING
Then: 48% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

SATISFIED WITH THE NATION'S DIRECTION
Then: 45% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 26% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

CONSUMER CONFIDENCE (1985=100)
Then: 115.7 (Conference Board, January 2001)
Now: 38.0, which is an all-time low (Conference Board, December 2008)

FAMILIES LIVING IN POVERTY
Then: 6.4 million (Census numbers for 2000)
Now: 7.6 million (Census numbers for 2007 -- most recent numbers available)

AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE
Then: 39.8 million (Census numbers for 2000)
Now: 45.7 million (Census numbers for 2007 -- most recent available)

U.S. BUDGET
Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office)
Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)

Not alot of people favor Bush, and with good reason it seems. I think democrats and republicans alike are hoping Obama to do better.

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ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
January 08 2009 19:23 GMT
#2
well we deserve it for letting him steal the 2000 election like that
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 08 2009 19:27 GMT
#3
one good thing happened:

jokes
then: many
now: many many more
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
January 08 2009 19:29 GMT
#4
U.S. BUDGET
Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office)
Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)

way to go
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-08 19:29:51
January 08 2009 19:29 GMT
#5
Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
January 08 2009 19:32 GMT
#6
On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger.

I agree with this.

A number of the statistics listed have nothing to do with Bush(Dow Jones, consumer confidence, poverty levels), a recession of this nature was inevitable.
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StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
January 08 2009 19:32 GMT
#7
On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger.

how do you figure that?
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ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
January 08 2009 19:36 GMT
#8
if we didnt go into afghanistan and iraq, it wouldn't be so bad

not to mention that most of the terrorists who attacked were saudis
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
January 08 2009 19:40 GMT
#9
On January 09 2009 04:32 StarN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger.

how do you figure that?


The US unemployment rate is determined by the booms and busts of the American economy, and the US economy, after riding the credit-expansion booms of the Clinton and Bush years, is long due for a recession. Obama's attempts to prop up the bubble will only make the recession more severe and cause more job losses.

Obama by all indications is going to try to spend our way out of the recession, and we're probably looking at trillion-dollar deficits throughout his term. He is raising spending, cutting taxes, while the overall economy is shrinking. It's not difficult to see the balance there.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
January 08 2009 19:40 GMT
#10
On January 09 2009 04:23 ish0wstopper wrote:
well we deserve it for letting him steal the 2000 election like that


Yeah you know we should have done something! Like bomb the white house.... or send an angry letter!

What the fuck do you want us to do?
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Cpt.Cocaine
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada299 Posts
January 08 2009 19:55 GMT
#11
More importantly;

People who have an unfavorable opinion of the United States:
Then: A couple of guys in the middle east and average joes who get screwed on their tax refunds and threaten to move to Canada
Now: Everyone
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
January 08 2009 20:08 GMT
#12
On January 09 2009 04:55 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:
More importantly;

People who have an unfavorable opinion of the United States:
Then: A couple of guys in the middle east and average joes who get screwed on their tax refunds and threaten to move to Canada
Now: Everyone

America has been hated for a long time. There is more hate now then before, but there was still plenty of hate towards the usa 8 years ago.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-08 20:14:34
January 08 2009 20:12 GMT
#13
BUSH FAVORABILITY RATING
Then: 50% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 31% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

CHENEY FAVORABILITY RATING
Then: 49% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

I am still baffled at the %, both then and now.. I would have expected much less just on their views and actions let alone their results.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-08 20:27:18
January 08 2009 20:26 GMT
#14
On January 09 2009 04:29 poilord wrote:
U.S. BUDGET
Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office)
Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)

way to go



That's weird because I saw a graph and US has always been in debt


And I feel really sorry for Obama, he seems like a real family man, I read an article and he's dedicated to spending time with his wife and his daughters but there's so much crap going on right now.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 08 2009 20:46 GMT
#15
On January 09 2009 04:32 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 04:29 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Obama isn't going to do better. The US unemployment rate in 2012 will be higher than it is at the end of Bush's term, guaranteed, and the deficit larger.

I agree with this.

A number of the statistics listed have nothing to do with Bush(Dow Jones, consumer confidence, poverty levels), a recession of this nature was inevitable.


Pretty much.

Most economic indicators have very little to do with the executive office.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
January 08 2009 21:10 GMT
#16
On January 09 2009 05:26 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 04:29 poilord wrote:
U.S. BUDGET
Then: +236.2 billion (2000, Congressional Budget Office)
Now: -$1.2 trillion (projected figure for 2009, Congressional Budget Office)

way to go



That's weird because I saw a graph and US has always been in debt


The above stat is the annual budget deficit/surplus. Debt is cumulative.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
January 08 2009 23:11 GMT
#17
Bush has 31% favoribility now? Wtf.

I have been against Bush since the beginning and I feel so powerless...
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
January 08 2009 23:30 GMT
#18
i guess we shouldn't have done eenie meenie miny moe huh =p
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Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
January 08 2009 23:55 GMT
#19
On January 09 2009 04:22 Hans-Titan wrote:
CONGRESS APPROVAL RATING
Then: 48% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

Surprise surprise, everyone looked right over this and went straight for the low bush/cheney ratings. Typical
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-09 08:25:18
January 09 2009 04:21 GMT
#20
On January 09 2009 08:55 Fr33t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 04:22 Hans-Titan wrote:
CONGRESS APPROVAL RATING
Then: 48% (1/01 NBC/WSJ poll)
Now: 21% (12/08 NBC/WSJ poll)

Surprise surprise, everyone looked right over this and went straight for the low bush/cheney ratings. Typical


- that 1 in 5 still favor Cheney and 1 in 3 still favor Bush is something to be wondered at, a true phucking surprise..
- that 4 out of 5 disapprove of politicians in our current recession is NO surprise, that you would think this is the surprise, does not surprise us
- so surprise, surprise, everyone looked right over and went straight for the Fr33t comment only to realize that he is part of that surprising percentage that just doesn't seem to get it..
- the "typical" was just icing on the cake (still laughing here),

- how clever you must feel!




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gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
January 09 2009 10:03 GMT
#21
Well, a lot of those statistics are related to the boom/bust of the business cycle which Bush himself didn't really have that much control over. Outside of the realm of economics, he's probably most well known for his foreign policy which I think would have interesting polls/stats as well.
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
January 09 2009 11:35 GMT
#22
Interesting correlation, but remember that it's just a correlation. I'd be happily surprised if everything picks up when Obama takes office, but I doubt it will and I won't be blaming him disproportionately, either.
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