On January 02 2009 22:35 fight_or_flight wrote: Women always look for security (they don't actually care about you) and when you had to work 24/7 she thought less of you..
I read your post. But none of the responses (unfortunately, this forum has a lot of immature kids these days).
My name is Joe, I'm 26. We are about the same age. Let me say firstly, that I think you are pretty fucking awesome for being so entrepreneurial in starting your own business! You've got some balls, and are a worthy person, at the very least.
Let's talk about the woman situation first.
I tell you what man, I relate 110%. When I was 23, I had to write-off my closest friend, because he tried to fuck around with my high school sweetheart. The fact is, if you have ever loved a particular girl, she is hallowed ground. Off limits. Every guy knows this deep down; it's built-in.. but sometimes true colors reveal themselves. If your "friend" hits her up regardless of that, he is your enemy, not your friend. Blow him off.
Secondly, please don't do anything rash... I've sent you a PM with my cell phone number. Please give me a call, I'd really like to chat with you more in-person.
i also wanted to add that everyone keeps say screw this girl... thats alot easier said then done... i mean i have been with the girl since i was 17 im 24 now. It is my first real relationship. I guess that makes things harder since i have not been in alot of relationships. I honestly had come to a point in my life where i thought i was ready to get married. i had made my mind up and i told her. I said as soon as i get my finances in order im gunna bye you the best ring i can get and we can get married and move in together. the thing is she was agreed and told me she wanted too. Ya just gotta understand when all you here is "hey your girl of 7 years was seein your best friend behind your back" its easy to just say ohh froget about her.. The way i feel i can't imagine being with another girl cause i am so used the being the with girl. Plus my best friend screwed me over... a guy who gets more girls then fuckin brad pitt... I also think that some of my other friends knew about it and chose not to tell me and i just feel totally betrayed and i don't feel like i can go to my friends for help. Luckly thought i still got my rent and TeamLiquid, and once again thanks for the kind comments im acctually kinda glad i posted
Plus my best friend screwed me over... a guy who gets more girls then fuckin brad pitt... I also think that some of my other friends knew about it and chose not to tell me and i just feel totally
Stop this kind of thinking! Stop thinking about the predicament altogether and focus only on solutions. There are several helpful ones here and I would, as already suggested, encourage you to tackle the drug problem first. There is always help to be had with this but you must try to have some self restraint and ensure the help you get is not wasted (for example, I know of people who are getting the medication that weens them off of heroine for free, and then use all of that to get high or sell it to buy more).
Don't act about anything with this girl and your friend for now. Completely ignore them and try not to respond to any attempts to contact you because you are not in a position to make any decisions you may regret, although I strongly advise to remember how she made you feel now when you are through this and it is time to deal with these things.
You must cover your drug problem first - your girlfriend and mate can go on standby until your head is cleared.
Money problems. Everyone has them, especially now - just get by as best you can and stop thinking about how much it costs you. If you can't stop this negative thinking when you are not busy (keep working, it can help take you mind off it, but perhaps mix the scenery up a bit if possible) then get a self help book to read at night or something. I can't really help you with the money thing as I myself get into money trouble sometimes but because I put absolutely no value on money and have a hard time understanding desire for it.
With your drugs gone and your mind off of negative things (i.e. make a fresh start) your head will be clear and your other problems will seem petty or easily solved. The money problems might mean you can't afford the lifestyle you grew up thinking you'd have, but hey life is pretty OK without it if you have your health and people who love you.
Do you have family who can support you? Any other friends? Perhaps even your job can be put off for a while if you can get work elsewhere (although this is big risk and I would only advise doing something like this if you were in absolute dire need of a change of surroundings). I would also not advise spending a lot of time alone with yourself - this would result in more time to think about everything going wrong and make you perceive matters worse (just like when you're a kid and it's all fun and games at the sleepover until you are on your own at night and miss your mummy ).
This may sound lame and useless. But instead of anti-depressants, i say do some gardening. Do some gardening around the house. Nothing is more fulfilling than seeing your plants grow after a few weeks.
I have nfi how drugs affect one, I am 22 but have never taken any drugs in my life, I get high enough on oxygen as it is so I dont need cheats. So try fill that up with something else instead, like gardening. Something to do with nature.
Smell fresh soil, fresh plants fuck i wish i lived in a farm, urban life is fucked.
Heartbreaking story :-/ I wish you the best of luck, and get back to working out. Thats the one thing thats always made me feel better about myself, I don't know why, but everytime I come home frome the gym, I always feel better about myself, regardless of how much life sucks.
Hey HatchetWound. I was in a similar situation a year ago. I felt completely depressed and had no motivation to do anything. I stopped caring about the things that were important to me (school, friends) and developed a addiction to get away from my sadness as well.
But now I feel much better. I am enjoying life, everyday when I wake up I feel like a new person. I am still battling my depression, but its a fight I know I will win. I hope the following advice will help you:
1. Quit your addiction to drugs. This is the first step to becoming better. When I was addicted, I used it as a distraction to get away from reality. It wasn't until I stopped that I realized I needed help. Whether you do it cold turkey or go through rehab is up to you. But this is the first stop, and the most important one. If you have the strength to do this, everything else is easy.
2. Seek professional help if possible. I know money is tight for you, but if you can spare it, find a nice therapist to talk to every week or so. It works wonders just having somebody sit there and listen to you. It dosen't even matter if you take his or her advice, its all about getting everything off your chest. If you are suffering from major depression, you will be given a chance to get on anti depressants. I suggest you take these if you are willing, they do help. I know a lot of people will say therapy is a bunch of bs, thats what I thought too before I actually tried it. It will be different for everyone, but for me, therapy and medication helped a ton.
3. Discover your calling. Is there something you've always wanted to do but never had the chance? Some hobby or interest you've kept to yourself, never really had a chance to develop because you spent all your time working, or going to school? Its time to find it again, and become obsessed with it. Take the energy from your old addiction and transform it into an healthy addiction. For me, this was music. I've always loved music, must have it around me all day, can't drive without it, can't go a day without listening to it. I don't know what the equivalent is for you, but all I know is that it HAS to be something you are very passionant about. It has to be instrinsic too, this passion can't be 100% motivated by money or fame. It is something you do to make yourself happy, regardless of what anyone else thinks. If you can grab on to it, you can reinvent yourself and have a new outlook on life.
Those are the 3 big steps I took, and I am become healthier everyday. The only thing I can't really help you on is girl in your life. I've never been in a relationship like that, so I can't really comment. The only thing I will say is that you will eventually meet new and interesting people once you become healthier, and you might also reunite yourself with those family and friends you thought you had lost as well. So just hang in there HatchetWound, you have a great community at TL and we will support you.
Stop the fucking drugs man. I would not blame your gf for dumping you or cheating on you if you started to fucking take h dude. I tried lots of drugs, too and even snorted h once and my gf told me if I ever took h again she would dump me and I totally approved of that because I had no intention to take it again and if i would get addicted i would want her to leave me alone to not get her into this shit
Girls are shit - always remember this - they're in it for themselves, what they can get out of it. If someone offers a better deal than you it's not about asking themselves "what kind of moral character would I have if I don't stay faithful to my boyfriend" but "is this what's best for me"?
You can easily get this book off Torrents, it's called The Game by Neil Strauss if you read if it doesn't exactly immediately help you with your situation but at least you'll understand why your Brad Pitt friend gets to fuck the girl. The fact that he already gets a shit load of pussy is all the more reason he'd get to fuck your girl, not a reason why he shouldn't (as you were saying).
As for money, well usually if you go into a Church and tell someone about your problems, especially a relatively smaller tight knit community Church and not a mega-Church in the city, you'll probably find someone who will be willing to give you some form of financial assistance (whether it be employment or helping you with your accounts) and be there for you until you get out of it.
Its when times get rough....when you are at the lowest of lows. Its only when you lose everything, hit rock bottom, that is where you can find the most emotion and inspiration to get back on your feet. Trust me, you will get back on your feet, you want to, and you will.
Hey man, I will only touch on the girl part of things, since that's where I can relate. When everybody says to forget about the girl and move on, it is good advice, but unfortunately it's incredibly hard advice to follow. I have been in several multi year relationships with girls, and when it's over, you can feel like you just want to crawl up in a ball in the bathroom and not move for a week. It's really hard to do things like work, or hang out with friends, or anything really, because all you can do is think about the girl constantly, and when you do you have this horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach like you are going to puke, you're so upset.
I will be honest with you man, there are hard times ahead. the good news is that there are also good times ahead. When you are in a relationship for that long, learning to live without that person in your life is like withdrawl. It can take 2 - 4 weeks before you can even start to function normally again, and those are some hard weeks man. Even after that, you will miss her and think about her a lot, but at least you will be able to get through the day without feeling like shit.
Then after a couple months (as long as you break off contact with her) something magical happens. It's the basis for that age old saying that time heals all wounds, which sounds really cliche and cheesy, but it's pretty cool when you actually experience it. All of a sudden you'll stop hurting inside all the time, and when you look back and remember how bad you felt, you'll wonder how you could have ever let the situation get you so down. You'll see thing so much more clearly, and realize all the things you still have to look forward to in life. You'll feel much better.
It's happened to me so many times, that I can now see it for what it is. As guys, our emotional and mental state can be completely controlled by our hormones, and it can just totally destroy our ability to think properly for extended periods of time.
The only advice I can give you, and this is important, don't talk to her. Don't drunk dial her and ask her why she did it, and how she could do it, and why with your friend, and how long it's been going on, and who else knew about it, etc etc etc. The answers to these questions won't help you, you'll find them out later anyway, and talking to her occasionally will make this process a never ending one. The sooner you break off all contact with her, the sooner you'll recover from your depression.
Try to focus on the other things in your life that make you happy. For me it was always video games, basketball, other sports, playing my cello, and programming. For you it could be other things.
Man this is why I love Starcraft players. You would never get this kind of response on a CAL league forum. I feel like the serious Starcraft players are manner as hell (the majority) and you gotta love that. Sorry for your troubles by the way, hopefully you have gained some insight and things will start to work things out one way or the other.
I can relate to the girl thing though bro, and honestly, I know its hard, but thats a really difficult thing to work through, needless to say you need some time away from it all I'd say. If its at all possible take a vacation, and consider methadone treatments...... Anyway dude best of luck with life and with the business. This shit economy sucks, but in the end its just money. No one is going to kill you if you cant pay your bills, whereas it sucks to fail as a business owner, you are a true baller for making that leap, the most important thing is your health though, and stressing about the rest of it all is null and void and this point.