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magicbullet
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Singapore163 Posts
November 08 2008 18:48 GMT
#1
It feels so shitty, when after putting in so much time and effort at bw, you realize that you still sucks at it.

Today's another lousy ICCUP day for me, losing many games due to silly mistakes. The game of Brood War has too many variables. It demands constant analysis and evaulation from the players while also demand constant control and micromanagement at the same time. I myself am handicapped at quick thinking. Often in game I become too engrossed in the current action that i forgot the fundamentals of the game. The problem is magnified by playing zerg, which unlike other race has the onus to "lead the play".

Anyone else experiencing road blocks in bw?




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village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
November 08 2008 18:50 GMT
#2
The onus is ours
lwstupidus
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States74 Posts
November 08 2008 18:52 GMT
#3
yea.. for a while I was stuck at C- but then I upgraded my training regimen to 8 hours a day from 4.. and now I'm B

I would advise you if you're having trouble improving to put in at least 12-14 hours a day for a few weeks, also make sure you eat healthy and spend some of your excess time exercising or sleeping
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
November 08 2008 19:05 GMT
#4
On November 09 2008 03:52 lwstupidus wrote:
yea.. for a while I was stuck at C- but then I upgraded my training regimen to 8 hours a day from 4.. and now I'm B

I would advise you if you're having trouble improving to put in at least 12-14 hours a day for a few weeks, also make sure you eat healthy and spend some of your excess time exercising or sleeping

As ridiculous as this sounds it's probably true rofl...

I honestly don't think being zerg makes you worse off overall, but I'm sure in specific applications it does. If a problem of yours is silly mistakes and balancing doing many different things, then both of those can be taken care of with additional practice and a positive mindset.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
November 08 2008 19:07 GMT
#5
On November 09 2008 03:52 lwstupidus wrote:
yea.. for a while I was stuck at C- but then I upgraded my training regimen to 8 hours a day from 4.. and now I'm B

I would advise you if you're having trouble improving to put in at least 12-14 hours a day for a few weeks, also make sure you eat healthy and spend some of your excess time exercising or sleeping


LOL either you are joking, or just unreal. Seriously, who has 13hours to invest into broodwar each day? School / Work / life would most certainly be in the way.

You just need to analyze your own weaknessess and address them 1 at a time. Who cares if you lose the game. A typical example for me as a terran player is. I concentrate on 1 matchup, tvz, and then concentrate on doing 1rax fast expansion. I also make sure I am adding my factory and starport at the proper times. this leads to me not paying attention to my units sometimes, but for now, Im just trying to make sure I have the right timings for the typical 2 groups of m/m 3 tanks and 1 vessel.

Basically, set aside somethings, and focus on your weaker points. Watch your replays and see how its coming along. You need to take an active role in improvement, as opposed to just playing lots of games. If you are blindly playing games, and doing the same mistakes over and over, then its pointless. Figure out where you are failing, and start fixing it.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
November 08 2008 19:24 GMT
#6
Mechanics and Scouting
That's all there is to it, seriously. Don't worry about sneaky plays or micro tricks, just go hardcore on your mechanics and scout really well
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-08 19:41:18
November 08 2008 19:41 GMT
#7
Make sure to FE and de up 10-20 canons at each base. Never attack or try to finish the game, they will kill themselves.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 08 2008 20:07 GMT
#8
On November 09 2008 04:41 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Make sure to FE and de up 10-20 canons at each base. Never attack or try to finish the game, they will kill themselves.


On November 09 2008 03:48 magicbullet wrote:
The problem is magnified by playing zerg


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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 08 2008 20:20 GMT
#9
get better! do better!
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 08 2008 20:23 GMT
#10
Just take it one match at a time. The more playing you do, the less silly mistakes that you'll have.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 08 2008 21:03 GMT
#11
magic bullets are fucken amazing
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 08 2008 22:00 GMT
#12
Off race. Get a feel for the mechanics of the other races, that way you can understand why they attack when they attack. It will make your timing a lot better. Other than that crank mechanics. My useless two cents lol
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
November 08 2008 23:13 GMT
#13
8 hours wow lol. If I could spend that much time practising drums I would be rich and famous!
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