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So say you have the answer to a hot chick's secret question for her e-mail account, but of all the people she knows you'd be the most likely suspect if she couldn't log in anymore 'cos the password got changed. But then again she could be so blonde you could just tell her it's 'cos she didn't log in for thirty days (as she has been away on holiday) so the account has automatically been suspended (just like how when asking her what ISP she was with she said Mozilla Firefox).
It's quite a gamble though and if it doesn't work I won't even get to be just friends with her. On the other hand by not hacking in and finding out who she really is through her correspondence with her other friends aren't I just gambling on the assumption that she's as innocent as she sounds in her e-mails to me and isn't writing to them about her sex life?
I am sure she is the one. I take her out on dates, buy her flowers, treat her to dinner, and drop her off at home afterwards, like a perfect gentleman.
Have I slept with her yet? No. I haven't even kissed her.
I'm behaving like a total Average Frustrated Chump (AFC). One day a guy is going to walk up to her in a club, say, 'Do you think magic spells work?' and take her home. She wants an adventure. She wants to have sex. All girls do.
Well, she's different from all those girls. People have more class here than they do in Neil Strauss books.
The Pick Up Artists (PUAs) have a name for this: They call it one-itis. It's a disease AFCs get: They become obsessed with a girl they're neither dating nor sleeping with, and then start acting so needy and nervous around her that they end up driving her away. The cure for one-itis, PUAs like to say, is to go out and have sex with a dozen other girls - and then see if this flower is still so special.
Yeah, so it's too late for me to game her now as I've already known her for over five years so a sudden change in my behaviour would be too obvious. I really only have two options (anticipating the replies to this post saying I am a nerd who feels the need to hack into e-mail accounts 'cos I can't be a real man), persist for another five years and eventually win her heart by on being a nice guy who finishes last (risking finishing last without the prize then hack into her account five years later), or hack into her account now, risking the friendship? WWYD?
Poll: Should I hack into her account?
(Vote): I should base my decision on what the majority of TL members tell me to do.
(Vote): Don't do it because (then post your miraculous story about how you got the girl through being a loser to give me some false, deluded hope).
 
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Does the secret question automatically give you a random password to log in with? Or is it just a way to get your old password.
If its the old password, just hack it and don't change the password. That way you get all old/current/new emails without her even knowing.
You know what, just hack it anyway. Most girls are pretty retarded about computer related stuff.
If anybody even asks you about it, suspecting you, just deny,deny,deny. Who can prove it?
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Yeah you've already formulated the plan, you may as well go through with it, what's the worst that can happen?
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Ye they cant prove it. just hack it. If her ISP is Mozilla Firefox shoe wont even know she was hacked.
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Katowice25012 Posts
There were a lot of words so I didn't read it but the way you threw in PUA (Pick Up Artist) lingo was pretty funny
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United States20661 Posts
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On October 30 2008 19:11 pewpew wrote:
Does the secret question automatically give you a random password to log in with? Or is it just a way to get your old password.
If its the old password, just hack it and don't change the password. That way you get all old/current/new emails without her even knowing.
You know what, just hack it anyway. Most girls are pretty retarded about computer related stuff.
If anybody even asks you about it, suspecting you, just deny,deny,deny. Who can prove it?
Damn you Yahoo! Just created a new account to test this and unfortunately it asks for a new password.
Ironic isn't it, that when we have a chance of getting away with doing something bad (e.g. downloading MP3s) we'll do it. The single biggest mitigating factor for me is her becoming suspicious about not being able to log in and losing her trust in me. But the fact that I would break into her account if I could without leaving a trace just shows I'm pretty untrustworthy.
Oh yeah, funny work story... I had a new ID created for me for our firm and as a new user the password was the default Password... But when my supervisor told me "your username is your initials then last name all in caps, then an uppercase P, then the word password in lowercase"... And I thought, oh OK, so I type in Ppassword, and it said sign in failed... And she said, "no I meant P then assword" - LOL, I had to try so damn hard to keep a straight face when she said that and act like nothing happened and continue with the sign in and I think she had to too when she realised she just said assword.
Man, if only I was able to keep that kind of straight face and say "I don't know what you're talking about" if the girl asked me whether I know anything about her e-mail password being changed...
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Do you want her hacking on your TLnet account?
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On October 30 2008 19:23 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
Ye they cant prove it. just hack it. If her ISP is Mozilla Firefox shoe wont even know she was hacked.
Yeah I guess, but she has 180 friends on Facebook so for example if she had to tell them her e-mail address has changed it's possible at least one of them will be computer literate enough to tell her that her account had probably been hacked (especially with the Sarah Palin fiasco bringing it to the front pages... This is actually how I found out you could do it so easily).
Anyway, I'll probably just give this opportunity a miss for now and try to slowly incorporate a bit more game element into my interactions with her and see how things go. It's probably better to play it safe and hack into her e-mail as well so I can get the full picture but maybe that's just a hand I'm too pussy to play right now (I'll probably change my mind tomorrow but what the heck).
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It's a pretty douchey thing to do, but if you do go through with it, then just make sure you do it at a public computer or at someone you don't like's place.
That way you cover all your bases if you happen to get REALLY unlucky.
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Do not hack her account. This is a person you've known for 5 years. You won't find out anything new by hacking into her email. All you'll find out is that you don't trust her. And that's a crummy way to start persuing a relationship.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
why the fuck would you want to do this?
are you 13?
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What are you waiting for? You shouldn't need to think.... do it!
Your problem is you're WAY too nice. You sound like the consummate gentleman.
99% of guys would not bother to buy a girl flowers and take her to dinner, you are already massively ahead on the "nice" scale.
Now you have the opportunity every guy dreams of, the chance to see EXACTLY what his crush feels about him. In the end it will make your relationship much much better.
Girls dream of a man who understands what they are thinking, who knows what they want.... but realistically we aren't mind readers for fucks sake. That is why when an opportunity like this comes up you snatch at it with both hands.
Knowing this information will make your confidence sky-rocket, leading to a much better relationship. You can stop being nervous around her and act yourself.
EVEN IF you get caught, you can claim that it was because you're so crazy about her and needed to know if she felt the same way.
If she cares for you she'll get over it anyway, in fact she'll probably love the drama.
In summary this is a massive win-win and you shouldn't even be hesitating!
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I say read it and then post here. Im also a nice guy and Ive lost a few women now... but whatever. Bitches aint shit!
Seriously though, you should post here if theres any weird shit in there. Good luck with her though, just continue to be a good guy and eventually (despite what you may think) you wont finish last.
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Why not just talk to her?
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On October 30 2008 20:33 stenole wrote:
Do not hack her account. This is a person you've known for 5 years. You won't find out anything new by hacking into her email. All you'll find out is that you don't trust her. And that's a crummy way to start persuing a relationship.
On October 30 2008 21:25 JMave wrote:
Why not just talk to her?
As a PUA you are failing at it. As in the book it states that if you are looking for a relationship you should probably disregard the information given in the book. I on the other hand read the book for shits and giggles b/c I heard it was a great book but found out I was a natural. Anyways I voted for the first one btw but like other people said you will either read some stuff that will just make you hate her more for being the AFC if anything. Making the strong moves not giving a fuck will probably be your best chance IMO if you really want to close the situation with her to have a relationship. You've had chances to make your move you state but you seem to fail at making the move. Just go sarging and you'll easily find out if that flower is still as delicate as you think she is atm. Have fun and GG.
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i've seen a lot of dumb blogs, but shit son
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This has to be one of the dumbest idea's ever.
Still, go for it and post the results, should be a good laugh.
(Seriously, ofcourse don't hack her account!).
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Sweden33719 Posts
Post was too stupid to read all the way through.
You should not do it because it's an immoral scumbag thing to do.
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And for clarity's sake, when i say dumb, i mean why are you even thinking of NOT hacking it? get to it already damnit
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United States17042 Posts
You shouldn't do it- you'll get yourself into trouble.
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On October 30 2008 22:04 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Post was too stupid to read all the way through.
You should not do it because it's an immoral scumbag thing to do.
Don't be a douche, nice guys like this dude need every edge they can get.
He's going to treat this girl right to the benefit of both of them, the end justifies the means.
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how the fudging fuck will that give u any sort of an edge.
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wait
I dont care about the rest of this
I have to know the follow-up to "do magic spells work"
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Well the real question is, lets say you go out with her for a year. And then one day she comes to you and says "you know that starcraft site your always looking at? Well today I was looking at your blog. What have you got to say for yourself????"
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On October 30 2008 21:43 Hawk wrote:
i've seen a lot of dumb blogs, but shit son
agreed
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I don't think it's a good idea, everyone seems quite polarized about this though. 
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United States3824 Posts
Why don't you tell her you like her? Guessing a password is not hacking by the way so I don't think you can even get props for being a skilled creeper
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Belgium6774 Posts
On October 30 2008 20:34 Plexa wrote:
why the fuck would you want to do this?
are you 13?
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Have some respect for other peoples' privacy!
Don't do it!!
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On October 30 2008 23:09 fusionsdf wrote:
wait
I dont care about the rest of this
I have to know the follow-up to "do magic spells work"
you put her hands together, fingers laced, then pull up her pointer fingers so they are up right and the rest are interlaced. Pull the pointer fingers apart then move your finger in a circular motion around them and watch as her fingers magically come together! (they naturally do this as long as you arent consciously holding them apart)
Anyways, to OP, you've known her for 5 years, but havent fucked her, but you take her out on dates? are you guys dating or what? if not you're probably fucked and reading her e-mails wont do shit.
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thats a pretty lame pickup line then 
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this is the invasion of someone else's privacy.
last time someone did this on sarah palin, it got really ugly with the FBI and all.
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Not only are you invading her privacy, you're also destroying her email account since once the password is changed she likely won't get it back.
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Just do what you want, man.
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LOL You have some SERIOUS GAME BRO, HAHAHAHAHA but honestly it's kinda sad and pathetic.
Good luck tho you need it
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Say you do this, and you find out she's the innocent girl you think she is.
How can you ever feel right going out with her? Will you even be convinced that by some other medium of communication, she isn't doing the same thing? Probably not.
Relationships are about trust. If you can't trust your partner, the relationship is already over. She's not even your partner yet and you can't trust her. You can't expect to have a realistic, healthy relationship with someone you spy on... I mean, I've seen people in relationships where they spy on each other, it's disgusting. If you don't trust someone, stop tying to engage in activities that will force you to do so.
No, you shouldn't do it. It's bad for you, it's bad for her, and it basically makes you a scum bag piece of shit. Seriously, it just irks me to know there are so many human beings who don't immediately realise this is futile waste of time.
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What the hell is wrong with you?
edit: I'm being serious, go seek help.
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oh god i feel bad for all the PUAs out there living a life of struggle!
i wonder if atleast 10% of PUAs got laid in the end
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This is some creepy shit.
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On first thought, no offense, but i think you're just another attention whore. Take a look at yourself. Why ask an obvious question that you already know the answer yourself? What are those unrelated information about PUA, AFC for?
On second thought you're just a confused person that need confirmations from other people about what's wrong and what's right.
Don't hack. You'll pick up this bad habit and screw up the rest of your life trying to get rid of it.
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On October 30 2008 20:34 Plexa wrote:
why the fuck would you want to do this?
are you 13?
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I read the first like four sentences then the last two and from what I can tell you fucking suck.
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On October 31 2008 00:33 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2008 23:09 fusionsdf wrote:
wait
I dont care about the rest of this
I have to know the follow-up to "do magic spells work" you put her hands together, fingers laced, then pull up her pointer fingers so they are up right and the rest are interlaced. Pull the pointer fingers apart then move your finger in a circular motion around them and watch as her fingers magically come together! (they naturally do this as long as you arent consciously holding them apart) Anyways, to OP, you've known her for 5 years, but havent fucked her, but you take her out on dates? are you guys dating or what? if not you're probably fucked and reading her e-mails wont do shit.
wait..how do her hands come together? arent they already intertwined w/ each other except the pointer fingers?
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So, you're talking about invading someone's privacy, and you aren't even worried about it on moral grounds, just that she might not like you anymore. Seriously, reading other people's mail is not cool. You should not even be considering this.
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hacking someone's email is pretty lame. grow up dude.
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I can give ya some advice (wish I could follow my own tho, as I have the same problem with just fucking pulling the trigger and initiating a relationship, but i digress)
You've known her for FIVE FUCKING YEARS and having even KISSED HER? Dude, if you don't start fucking taking ur natural expansion soon, you're gonna be left all dried up trying to secure the lone island expansion on the other half of the fucking map, n guess what? Ur shuttle just got sniped.
seriously, you have to make a move, as in like KISS HER, fondle her breasts, SOMETHING. You realize that women want sex just as much as guys do? I'm not saying it's all about the sex, but um, that IS part of a relationship...and if you're gonna be too pussy to initiate a real relationship, well she's going to have fun with someone else, probably a jackass, catch the drift ?
you only perpetuated ur situation by being an AFC for so long. Fuck man, you know how long we live? like avg 65 years or so (yah, dun look that up, it's prob not accurate anymore lofl). If you don't make some type of move, and break out of friend mode asap, you're going to waste the NEXT 5 yrs of ur life without a relationship with the same girl, while she's off fucking those non-nice guys that give her what she wants.
It's not even about the hacking, you need to start making some fucking decisions man, or find another girl. tho, if you want this particular girl, then do what you have to do, and I'd say at this point, go ahead and take a peek at her mail. Is this unethical? hmmm let's see, it'd be more unethical to let you waste the next 5 yrs of ur life or however long chasing after something that's not even there.
if you do trust her, and think she will breath a sigh of relief from you manning up, then just fuck it, read the stuff, it'll be a funny (but awkward) story later in life -.- but you'll have had a chance eh? cause at this point, you're in deep water sigh o.o
either that or take the more "virtuous route" and don't read her mail, but get out of AFC mode TODAY
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how about start making a move now? if it seems to fast.. transit. just start now. get more flirty everyday.
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Your not gonna find anything anyway, well you most likely wont.
My email account consists of spam mail from Barack Obama, LiveNation and Definitive Jux. Every once in awhile there is a registration or confirmation email. THis chick probably isnt using her email for Defcon 5 correspondence.
Edit: You should get together with the dude two post above me and realize your both gay.
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You should NOT hack her account.
...But if you do, make sure to tell us how it goes.
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Well, there certainly isn't a shortage of people with anger issues here...
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Why dont you ask Matador and Mystery if you should hack her account you AFC
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SO you've been her friend for 5 years, friends with her, never dated etc, and you want to know whether or not shes fucking other guys - so you make a thread to ask a bunch of computer idiots, AFCs, and expect them to answer the ultimate nerd question ABOUT A GIRL? : "should I hack my friend to see if she likes other guys?????????????????"
rofl. think it through dude.
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How about this: Grow some balls and ask the fuck out. Tell her you like her and charm her ass off. Quit with the demoralizing: "Okay im a AFC and should find another way to 'game' this bitch."
Get at her fool.
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