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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 13 2008 07:59 GMT
#1
As most of you should know I'm a Terran player and I'm by no means bad. I think I'm pretty decent and easily above average but recently playing iccup gives me chills.
I totally lost my selfconfidence resulting in bad results and all-in strategies which mostly fail against good players.

I think I cannot win straight games anymore and I don't know why. When I push out a shuttle sneaks in my base and fucks up my timing is just one example of small things that really destroys my gameplay.

Also I struggle to finish off opponents even if I have an advantage. Maybe its just me as Terran who is easily cheeseable that makes me think like that, but I have the feeling that every mistake you make with terran is crucial. I'm not saying Protoss and Zerg are easily to play, but you can make more mistakes on the level I'm playing at.

For the ones who want to call me newby, I'm currently at B- level on iccup with a ~64% winratio, but its really hard to focus if you are mad and frustrated..

If you have anything that could cheer me up or anything you know what could help to gain self confidence in a game, please let me know. Thanks in advance.

Also I'm going to host op TL-Train on iccup to train "korean style" as there are not lots of opponents on B- and I'm going to mass game and get over my slump.

I will destroy everyone in 2009!

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.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
October 13 2008 08:14 GMT
#2
Usually when I get pissed off at StarCraft after, either being trashed for retarded reasons by ppl I train with, or just by getting pissed off at failing on ICCup depending on the day....I just relax, take some water and go get some air, think about it for a while and just come back relaxed and I start playing better. Trust me I know how it is I get so insta pissed when I throw away games I can practically smash my computer =]. So just manage to stop trying to play when you get angry (usually when i get pissed off I wanna game mroe and mroe and more just to win ffs, but ultimately you end up losing you know because C/B level requires a lot more concentration, so when you're pissed you lose that concentration) so just manage to stop playing for like 15-30 minutes when your missed, cool off with water / fresh air, and when you come back you should be playing wayyy better =]
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fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
October 13 2008 08:16 GMT
#3
Definitely sounds like a "phase" of sorts. Give it a week or so. I find I start losing a lot more when I'm on the verge of improving/shifting my play to the next level.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
October 13 2008 08:34 GMT
#4
Play with your sword
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
October 13 2008 09:18 GMT
#5
Dude you're fucking good......give it time because I get this kind of thing too. Like I'll lose and lose and lose so as fonger said, give it some time man.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 13 2008 09:31 GMT
#6
On October 13 2008 18:18 clazziquai wrote:
Dude you're fucking good......give it time because I get this kind of thing too. Like I'll lose and lose and lose so as fonger said, give it some time man.


Was that "Dude you're fucking good..." to cheer me up or do you know that I'm good :D?

On October 13 2008 17:16 fonger wrote:
Definitely sounds like a "phase" of sorts. Give it a week or so. I find I start losing a lot more when I'm on the verge of improving/shifting my play to the next level.


Yes, since I'm trying to use my speed now. I've around 300-380 apm depending on the match up and I'm trying to drop harass, vulture raid etc. Also I'm trying to be a little bit more creative and thats probably the jump to the next level. Hopefully I'll manage to handle that and get really good!
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Jizz
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia224 Posts
October 13 2008 09:59 GMT
#7
A big ass break is what you need. Whenever it stresses you out to a point where you throw your mouse at the wall. take a break for a day/week. or at least until you really want to play it again.

Or get/ make out with, a girlfriend
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 10:25:58
October 13 2008 10:25 GMT
#8
I don't know what the fuck happened. A week ago I went 11-1 against koreans in a single night. Mostly TvP. 3-4 nights ago, I went like 4-9 against koreans, mostly TvP. I really don't know what happened, but I was really angry that night. So fucking frustrating.

I'm only C rank, so not as big a deal as you, but I can still definitely relate. v_v

Protoss is really fucking easy. That's not me ranting or jumping on the "zomg, protoss ezmode" bandwagon. I'm just pointing out the facts. Protoss is an easy race. I can hop on a Protoss account and rape non-stop until C rank. I can almost reach the same rank as protoss as I can with Terran, the race I hardcore train.

Fucking frustrating. Yes there is lots of skill on protoss later on, but 1 simple mistake as Terran can cost you the game, even against a D+ Protoss. It only takes 1 small fucking mistake. Protoss is too forgiving. If you make a mistake you have about 20 seconds to react to it before it becomes a real problem.

/end rant.
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KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
October 13 2008 11:01 GMT
#9
Only PvT is easy because there's not much demand on micro,scouting and creativity. PvZ is a nightmare vs good zergs that know how to exploit your lack of harassment or scouting.

I very rarely play TvZ and i can handle B-/B level zergs, however, i play heaps of PvZ and i struggle vs B- level zergs.

Yeah, sure, Protoss is child's play at low levels, but once you reach the B ranks you can't rely on the same ol' tricks that worked against C/C+ level players.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
October 13 2008 11:15 GMT
#10
On October 13 2008 20:01 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
Only PvT is easy because there's not much demand on micro,scouting and creativity. PvZ is a nightmare vs good zergs that know how to exploit your lack of harassment or scouting.

I very rarely play TvZ and i can handle B-/B level zergs, however, i play heaps of PvZ and i struggle vs B- level zergs.

Yeah, sure, Protoss is child's play at low levels, but once you reach the B ranks you can't rely on the same ol' tricks that worked against C/C+ level players.


I was mostly talking about PvT of course. And I've beaten plenty of B's so it's not some unattainable level that I have no concept of. I'm quite aware of that level.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 13 2008 12:14 GMT
#11
Its not about bitching how easy one race is. On the first hand its about the fact that the lack of self confidence leads to strategies which tend to be all in or hard to pull off. Like 2 fac openings instead of just a simple fast expansion..
I know its not cheese, but a failed 2 fac rush gets you somewhat behind.
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Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
October 13 2008 12:17 GMT
#12
I know that if I play badly in a single game, then I'm pretty much dead for the rest of the night. You're just so psychologically impaired that the more you try to chase your losses and redeem yourself the worse your play becomes.

It's sometimes very tempting to chase those losses, but now when I play badly I force myself to just take a break, have a shower, do some homework, whatever. When you come back it'll be a lot better.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
October 13 2008 12:26 GMT
#13
I know. It's a fact lol
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d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
October 13 2008 13:04 GMT
#14
Same thing here, but on a lower level. I really feel like I am not such a bad Terran player. I know my timings in both matchups and my mechanics are way above average. But somehow, my opponent always does something nifty or sneaky and gets back at me. Sometimes, if I watch replays, it's just so depressing, because I see that my macro was better, my micro was better, but he just made some extremely bold move and I wasn't prepared..
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 13 2008 14:10 GMT
#15
I think my worst experience so far on iccup was losing to a Korean doing 9 pool speed 3 times in a row on Tau Cross, even when he told me he was going to do it before the game started
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YellowEmperor
Profile Joined October 2008
Taiwan100 Posts
October 13 2008 14:17 GMT
#16
Just remind yourself, at the end of the day, you are merely looking at a piece of glass and pressing your fingers against various pieces of plastic. You are doing this all alone for several hours. Losing a game should be the last thing to depress you, so cheer up.. ?
When you learn something, use the heart.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 14:20:20
October 13 2008 14:19 GMT
#17
I've been in this situation before, and I keep revisiting the same scenario from time to time. It's just a horrible slump, the only thing I can say to you is that your play always gets worse before it gets better, and it's true. So even if you're playing a whole lot, and feel like your just getting worse, that's okay, keep looking forward and think that it'll make you a stronger player in the long run.

I usually go on like "streaks" or whatever you'd wanna call it. I play a whole lot for a period of time, and I usually just get worse, sloppier, more losses. Then I cut it off, for like 5 days up to even 2 weeks where I just casually play one or two games or observe / watch replays. When I resume playing a lot (like laddering for instance) I usually realize i've gotten a little better. So it's a drawn out process, you just have to endure it.

I'm such a competitve player so my confidence really depends on how i'm performing. If I lose 2-3 games in a row, I'm basically the worst player in the world for a few hours. If I beat a few good opponents, I can carry that with me for a long time. I don't really know how you're supposed to get your confidence up, I mean people have different ways. Some are just flat out BM and convice themselves that they are always, and will always, be superior and better than anyone. Even though they lose. Sort of a defense mechanism I guess. For some it's mood dependant, and for some it's based on how they judge their actual skill level at the time.

Winners never quit, quitters never win.
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1838 Posts
October 13 2008 15:29 GMT
#18
On October 13 2008 16:59 G.s)NarutO wrote:
As most of you should know I'm a Terran player and I'm by no means bad. I think I'm pretty decent and easily above average but recently playing iccup gives me chills.


Have you recently been playing people who are significantly better than the usual crop you play? Although, I can surly understand that slumps and such come around, but since I don't really know your whole situation I don't know if there's a cause for one or not. I'd make sure you just haven't been playing really good people due to increased skill on your part. That's the problem with getting better: You lose for a while.
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FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
October 13 2008 15:49 GMT
#19
On October 13 2008 23:17 YellowEmperor wrote:
Just remind yourself, at the end of the day, you are merely looking at a piece of glass and pressing your fingers against various pieces of plastic. You are doing this all alone for several hours. Losing a game should be the last thing to depress you, so cheer up.. ?



Get out.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
October 13 2008 16:00 GMT
#20
On October 13 2008 21:14 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Its not about bitching how easy one race is. On the first hand its about the fact that the lack of self confidence leads to strategies which tend to be all in or hard to pull off. Like 2 fac openings instead of just a simple fast expansion..
I know its not cheese, but a failed 2 fac rush gets you somewhat behind.


Maybe it's your indecisiveness and scouting that you need to work on.
When I play TvP, I emphasize early scouting a lot, I sneak out early SCVs to constantly look for expansions and if something doesn't add up, I play more defensive. This decisiveness makes me much less prone to losing self confidence as a result of getting cheesed; if I get cheesed, usually I watch the replay and see something I could've done better in terms of scouting or turret/unit positions.
TvZ anticheese is pretty simple, just keep that first scv alive and send another one to see if he's massing speedlings. I'm not sure what kind of ZvT cheeses are getting to you.
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