Is this like a fashion or what? It's like every x months some country get's to be called bm and bashed by everyone who has had at least 1 bad experience against one of that country. One of the first BM debates I remember was about spanish people and their annoying xDDDDDDDDDD[...and many more D's] and the blind nationalist pride they tried to show off everywhere . Then some months later it was Russia's turn. It all started with "Androide is a lil piece of shit I will beat to death when I see him at WCG", and suddenly news and pics of Russian WCG team members getting wasted with vodka and trashing hotel rooms where all over the place. Now it's time for the koreans, although they get to repeat, which I guess comes with being the easy target.

I have been traveling all my life, from the USA to different countries in Europe, including China and Korea, and if I have learned one thing is that there are idiots everywhere. The only difference is that the type of idiocy varies, from cockyness to narrow minded morons, so it will bother you more or less depending on what you dislike more.

I bet that if you went to any GBR-1, GER-1, FRA-1, ESP-1, or whatever, you could find at least 5 bm idiots in a 20 min margin.

only_human89

United States212 Posts

October 10 2008 18:14 GMT

#42

rofl his is a pretty funny discussion. Koreans are people to so obv they can be just as bm. It's just they're average skill level is a bit higher than others. lewl

Leath

Canada1724 Posts

October 10 2008 18:28 GMT

#43

In my opinion there is no bad or worse.

Anywhere, you go in the world there will be good and bad people.

Perhaps, Asians are stereotyped to be family oriented, and respectful. But with the turn of the century and the ways life is changing in those eastern countries, most people are no different from Westerns.

While there might be a lot of people who hold onto old fashioned values, there will be a lot of Asians who are very xenophobic.

Then and again, its not good to generalize. Some koreans are good and GM, some are too proud and BM.
Some westerns are good and GM, some are Americans! Jk jk. =)
<3
But yah, some Westerns folks are just as badly BM as anyone else.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

October 10 2008 18:47 GMT

#44

Lol yesterday I was playing and the kid asks from?

I said USA and he said spain.

He ends up getting into this long-winded conversation about whether or not I love soccer (I do not... sometimes it's kind of fun to play, but watching it is boring, just like most other sports), but he couldn't understand my responses because his english was pretty poor. So finally I just kept responding no no no no no no when he'd ask if i loved soccer, and so he attack moved on me since clearly he was pissed that I didn't like his national sport.

lol

Eatme

Switzerland3919 Posts

October 10 2008 19:23 GMT

#45

On October 11 2008 03:47 -orb- wrote:
Lol yesterday I was playing and the kid asks from?

I said USA and he said spain.

He ends up getting into this long-winded conversation about whether or not I love soccer (I do not... sometimes it's kind of fun to play, but watching it is boring, just like most other sports), but he couldn't understand my responses because his english was pretty poor. So finally I just kept responding no no no no no no when he'd ask if i loved soccer, and so he attack moved on me since clearly he was pissed that I didn't like his national sport.

lol

Well in your defence it is really boring to watch.

I cant read korean so if they bm me I dont understand it. And I usually dont respond to what they are writing unless I play teamgames and then I say "sorry no hangul", plus make sure they know I'm not american and they are mostly mannered.
The home of BM is still US-east imo.

CFDragon

United States304 Posts

October 10 2008 20:02 GMT

#46

On October 11 2008 04:23 Eatme wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yeah, I've encountered sooo much more BM in one DAY on USEast than in all the time I've ever spent on ICCup, and I play around the C/D area mostly, and that's probably where a majority of the BM is located.

And yeah, SC:BW >>>>>>> Soccer/Futbol/etc.

zer0das

United States8519 Posts

October 10 2008 20:06 GMT

#47

I think there's been exactly one person who has been really BM to me, and he was like a B Toss who had just reset his account. I mean seriously... if you have time to talk trash, reaver micro, and keep your macro up you probably aren't D buddy. I can count the number of PvP's I've won on Iccup on one hand and this guy wouldn't shut up the moment he had an advantage. Pretty sure he was from the US.

Otherwise, I've probably been more BM than the people I've played against. I've tried to force myself to say gg, and largely do. A few times I've just had to quit so I wouldn't say anything stupid.

Ozarugold

2716 Posts

October 10 2008 20:58 GMT

#48

Koreans are people and people can be mean so Koreans can be mean. Simple. You'll meet some nice people, you'll meet some mean people, I just try to brush it off. Not much you can do about it really...

meathook

1289 Posts

October 10 2008 21:09 GMT

#49

The worst, imo, is when they start BMing you when you are losing, no matter if you were mannered towards them in the start or not. I have encountered this a couple of times on Iccup, and it is really awful. From different nationalities of course, not only Koreans. E.g. when some toss asshole goes center gates and then starts calling you noob... I don't really feel like saying GG in those cases.

Wala.Revolution

7582 Posts

October 10 2008 23:00 GMT

#50

On October 11 2008 03:14 only_human89 wrote:
rofl his is a pretty funny discussion. Koreans are people to so obv they can be just as bm. It's just they're average skill level is a bit higher than others. lewl

Although I agree that Koreans generally are overconfident of their skill over foreigners (I couldn't convince a guy that there are good foreigners... maybe I wasn't clear on the definition of "good") the amatuer level is certainly much more higher than "a bit higher".

I think it's just that the top amatuers (or amatuers at all) don't play on ICCUP.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

October 10 2008 23:08 GMT

#51

No one says gg on iccup I don't care anymore

BlackStar

Netherlands3029 Posts

October 10 2008 23:10 GMT

#52

I once played this hacking Korean that I thought I was beating because he was starving and he was only using like 12 queens to broodling my templar, using maphack to avoid me killing them.

I had to lose cause he also mineral hacked. He kept thrash talking me the whole time while he knew I knew he was at least cheating. Probably triggered that when he almost died to my speedlot timing and lost like most of his drones.

BalliSLife

1339 Posts

October 11 2008 02:18 GMT

#53

I wasn't aware that koreans disliked china, is it because they support N korea?

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17726 Posts

October 11 2008 05:20 GMT

#54

Play

Australia608 Posts

October 11 2008 05:43 GMT

#55

hmm my experiences on iccup are the opposite, i always say "hi" and they say "hi from?" and i say "australia, you from?" and they say "kor" and i say "cool" and i say "you like esport?" and they say "yes ^^" and then i just say random progamer names and they say random progamer names and then we play and whoever loses says gg... happens alot and they are, 9 times out of 10, very very mannered

it may be because i'm in the same timezone as korea, and i generally play at night so then like...the mannered people play at night... o.o (in korea)

foreigners on the other hand... T_T

jimminy_kriket

Canada5501 Posts

October 11 2008 08:40 GMT

#56

Koreans seem to think its cool when i tell them im from canada, its always "oo canada cool ^^" or "canada nice place". But alot of times they will ask if im american first, when i tell them im not they're like "good, yankee dumbfuck" and shit like that.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

October 11 2008 20:03 GMT

#57

lol i played a korean the other day and when i three raxed him the next thing i got

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

he still gg'd when he lost.

koreans are the most funny to play against ive only had 2 say gg the other one was after i sent in bc in a TvT

he goes "What the fuck?" "Gg"

generally i dont get gg's from anyone