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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
September 27 2008 14:13 GMT
#21
This means that we won't be able to paly RA3 online right? (Because noway I am buying a game with _that_ shit ...)
Sucks, I was actually looking forward to it ~~.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
September 27 2008 15:05 GMT
#22
EA Is so jerkish, i miss RA2 online, it was so fun..
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
capek
Profile Joined September 2008
United States585 Posts
September 27 2008 15:05 GMT
#23
EA is just losing customers and fans who just go "oh well".
Terrible marketing.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
September 27 2008 15:31 GMT
#24
On September 27 2008 20:42 Random() wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2008 12:38 Spenguin wrote:
DRM? Wth is going on here?


Digital Rights, or rather Restrictions Management is a system that goes a step beyond your usual copy protection. In particular it limits how many times you can install a game on different machines using your serial number. Which means that changing some of your hardware, for example, will lead to the game thinking that you are using a new machine and making you use up another installation. It requires activation over Internet on installation, and some versions went as far as to require Internet authentication each time you start the game.

People are pissed because basically the companies demand similar amount of money as they used to before for their games, but under a totally different terms of use. I.e. you can do whatever you want with you Starcraft CD, install it and play it whenever and wherever you like. With Red Alert 3, for example, you cannot install it without a working Internet connection, you cannot give it to a friend because of the limited installations number, you are not guaranteed that in some years the authentication servers will even work and you will be able to install your game. There were actually precedents where a company ceased to exist, shut down their authentication servers and as such made all their previously sold DRM-protected software unusable.

People are also pissed because this only affects a legit user. Pirated versions appear as fast as they did before, and clean of this stupid protection, thus much easier to use.

There were precedents where companies used no copy protection whatsoever, and their sales were as good as anybody's else. I feel really bad for the actual developers who put their heart and talent into the games only to be butchered by soulless corporate executives.


Very good explanation
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
September 27 2008 17:39 GMT
#25
On September 27 2008 18:54 vhallee wrote:
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On September 27 2008 11:07 micronesia wrote:
Write them each time you don't buy it, and share the letter or e-mail with the community here and elsewhere. If thousands of fans do what you do, then ea will either get the picture, or prove they are worse than we thought (or at least I thought).


good idea. they probably know this already but being the soulless bastards they are, they need to be reminded. no matter what other games they will release, they will always be the shittiest gaming company in my eyes.

Sexy ^.^

Things have been like this for too long, but I havent noticed since I DL almost everything now :/
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
September 27 2008 17:44 GMT
#26
Uh, for everyone saying RA2 died after EA bought out WW...

Plz look up Xwis.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Bowdz
Profile Joined September 2007
United States202 Posts
September 27 2008 18:16 GMT
#27
I stopped buying EA games 8 years ago and have never really been temped to buy one of their games until now. Mirror's Edge looks very promising and if it turn out well, I will break my first rule of purchasing video games.
"Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself makes you fearless." - Lao Tzu
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-27 18:54:54
September 27 2008 18:53 GMT
#28
Yeah one shouldn't buy DRMed stuff, ever.

Funny/sad thing is though that DRM will lead to more piracy (because only the pirated versions will work without any restrictions!) and that will make EA think they need even more protections in the future.

If they don't realize soon that they're fighting against their customers (not against the pirates, there's no stopping it anyway) by introducing such crap, their games will continue to not meet the sale expectations.

Good games will sell even when they have zero copy protections. Sins of a Solar Empire is one such example, it sold very well and there are no problems with it (except that it's Windows only, that should be fixed... :p).
The chances of EA realizing this are small though, and other game companies (or rather: publishers) will also continue to restrict their games even more. But you can only fool your customers so much, at some point all will realize that they're buying crap over which they don't have any control, and then the company will hopefully be in trouble. That point seems to be now.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
September 27 2008 19:09 GMT
#29
The thing that has me worried is that EA bought out Bioware, so Dragon Age might have this shit.
It's easier not to.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 27 2008 19:51 GMT
#30
i hope blizzard never uses DRM
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 27 2008 20:34 GMT
#31
On September 28 2008 02:44 L wrote:
Uh, for everyone saying RA2 died after EA bought out WW...

Plz look up Xwis.


Man. Nox and RA2 and all Westwood games (except renegade? I don't remember) were down for months after Westwood went down.
EA completely ignored and shut down all ways to get to the Westwood games patches etc and doesn't answer to support about those games. Xwis has nothing to do with EA, and both RA2 and Nox online population went very low, that's what I meant with it dying.

EA only releases a few patches for every game, and they often make the games worse with each patch. A big reason why they made so much money is because of all those licensed sports games which they make minor updates on every year and sell for same price as before. Worse thing is that there are actually idiots buying those piece of crap games. All those movie licensed games they make are the same, if not worse.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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