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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
... and everything you love, and want to control your mind and read your thoughts, suck all the money from you and then make you a voodoo zombie and sell you into slavery for even more money.
Fucking EA!
What the hell is this, a second bloody game in what, 4 years that I was actually going to buy, and that I am NOT buying again because of this DRM crap. First Mass Effect, now Red Alert 3.
Brain-damaged idiots, when will they finally realize that this does NOTHING to prevent piracy but does a HUGE amount to encourage it instead.
Oh well, fuck 'em. Saved me another $50 though.
EDIT: DRM explanation.
Digital Rights, or rather Restrictions Management is a system that goes a step beyond your usual copy protection. In particular it limits how many times you can install a game on different machines using your serial number. Which means that changing some of your hardware, for example, will lead to the game thinking that you are using a new machine and making you use up another installation. It requires activation over Internet on installation, and some versions went as far as to require Internet authentication each time you start the game.
People are pissed because basically the companies demand similar amount of money as they used to before for their games, but under totally different terms of use. I.e. you can do whatever you want with you Starcraft CD, install it and play it whenever and wherever you like. With Red Alert 3, for example, you cannot install it without a working Internet connection, you cannot give it to a friend because of the limited installations number, you are not guaranteed that in some years the authentication servers will even work and you will be able to install your game. There were actually precedents where a company ceased to exist, shut down their authentication servers and as such made all their previously sold DRM-protected software unusable.
People are also pissed because this only affects a legit user. Pirated versions appear as fast as they did before, and clean of this stupid protection, thus much easier to use.
There were precedents where companies used no copy protection whatsoever, and their sales were as good as anybody's else. I feel really bad for the actual developers who put their heart and talent into the games only to be butchered by soulless corporate executives.
 
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United States24680 Posts
Write them each time you don't buy it, and share the letter or e-mail with the community here and elsewhere. If thousands of fans do what you do, then ea will either get the picture, or prove they are worse than we thought (or at least I thought).
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What game are you talking about? Red Alert 3?
Anyway, when I played through Mass Effect last week, I had some problems with some bugs, etc, so I went to the official support forum. I was surprised at how many potential buyers were bringing this issue to the table and refused to buy the game specifically because of DRM.
I don't see them scrapping this any time soon though, as it seems that the company responsible for said technology has brainwashed many publishing firms and convinced them that they will successfully protect their products by using this crap.
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I think of EA as a company that saves me money, because since all their games are so shitty, I never will have to spend money on them.
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they have enough 10 year olds that dont know how to download, that they dont bother protecting themselves O_O
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On September 27 2008 11:18 Cham wrote:
I think of EA as a company that saves me money, because since all their games are so shitty, I never will have to spend money on them.
I like this mentality and I subscribe to it myself.
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
DRM? Wth is going on here?
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EA ruins every game they touch, so it's not a big deal anyways.
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On September 27 2008 11:18 Cham wrote:
I think of EA as a company that saves me money, because since all their games are so shitty, I never will have to spend money on them.
ROFL
I'm a pretty good Battlefield 2 player (I can keep up with top competitive infantry players on a good day) but then EA ended up killing it with a certain patch. I hate EA.
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On September 27 2008 11:18 Cham wrote:
I think of EA as a company that saves me money, because since all their games are so shitty, I never will have to spend money on them.
hahaha : (
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EA ruined Ultima Online.I will never forgive them.
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On September 27 2008 13:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
EA ruined Ultima Online.I will never forgive them.
They produce Madden.
My love offsets your unforgiving heart.
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On September 27 2008 11:18 Cham wrote:
I think of EA as a company that saves me money, because since all their games are so shitty, I never will have to spend money on them.
very good logic, deserves another qft
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On September 27 2008 11:07 micronesia wrote:
Write them each time you don't buy it, and share the letter or e-mail with the community here and elsewhere. If thousands of fans do what you do, then ea will either get the picture, or prove they are worse than we thought (or at least I thought).
good idea. they probably know this already but being the soulless bastards they are, they need to be reminded. no matter what other games they will release, they will always be the shittiest gaming company in my eyes.
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On September 27 2008 12:38 Spenguin wrote:
DRM? Wth is going on here?
Digital Rights Management, it's a cryptation/security program that is supposed to stop people from tampering with the product (copying, tampering with data and stuff). It's pretty shitty, especially on music when the extra power required to decrypt the file drains the battery on your mp3.
But as understand it, it should'nt be too hard to circumvent?
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On September 27 2008 12:38 Spenguin wrote:
DRM? Wth is going on here?
Digital Rights, or rather Restrictions Management is a system that goes a step beyond your usual copy protection. In particular it limits how many times you can install a game on different machines using your serial number. Which means that changing some of your hardware, for example, will lead to the game thinking that you are using a new machine and making you use up another installation. It requires activation over Internet on installation, and some versions went as far as to require Internet authentication each time you start the game.
People are pissed because basically the companies demand similar amount of money as they used to before for their games, but under a totally different terms of use. I.e. you can do whatever you want with you Starcraft CD, install it and play it whenever and wherever you like. With Red Alert 3, for example, you cannot install it without a working Internet connection, you cannot give it to a friend because of the limited installations number, you are not guaranteed that in some years the authentication servers will even work and you will be able to install your game. There were actually precedents where a company ceased to exist, shut down their authentication servers and as such made all their previously sold DRM-protected software unusable.
People are also pissed because this only affects a legit user. Pirated versions appear as fast as they did before, and clean of this stupid protection, thus much easier to use.
There were precedents where companies used no copy protection whatsoever, and their sales were as good as anybody's else. I feel really bad for the actual developers who put their heart and talent into the games only to be butchered by soulless corporate executives.
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EA shut down all Westwood servers when they bought it up which made RA2 and Nox die  . I'll never forgive them.
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Only thing I like about EA is Madden. But, they keep making a new one every year.. :-/
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This means that we won't be able to paly RA3 online right? (Because noway I am buying a game with _that_ shit ...)
Sucks, I was actually looking forward to it ~~.
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EA Is so jerkish, i miss RA2 online, it was so fun..
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EA is just losing customers and fans who just go "oh well".
Terrible marketing.
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On September 27 2008 20:42 Random() wrote:Digital Rights, or rather Restrictions Management is a system that goes a step beyond your usual copy protection. In particular it limits how many times you can install a game on different machines using your serial number. Which means that changing some of your hardware, for example, will lead to the game thinking that you are using a new machine and making you use up another installation. It requires activation over Internet on installation, and some versions went as far as to require Internet authentication each time you start the game. People are pissed because basically the companies demand similar amount of money as they used to before for their games, but under a totally different terms of use. I.e. you can do whatever you want with you Starcraft CD, install it and play it whenever and wherever you like. With Red Alert 3, for example, you cannot install it without a working Internet connection, you cannot give it to a friend because of the limited installations number, you are not guaranteed that in some years the authentication servers will even work and you will be able to install your game. There were actually precedents where a company ceased to exist, shut down their authentication servers and as such made all their previously sold DRM-protected software unusable. People are also pissed because this only affects a legit user. Pirated versions appear as fast as they did before, and clean of this stupid protection, thus much easier to use. There were precedents where companies used no copy protection whatsoever, and their sales were as good as anybody's else. I feel really bad for the actual developers who put their heart and talent into the games only to be butchered by soulless corporate executives.
Very good explanation
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On September 27 2008 18:54 vhallee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 11:07 micronesia wrote:
Write them each time you don't buy it, and share the letter or e-mail with the community here and elsewhere. If thousands of fans do what you do, then ea will either get the picture, or prove they are worse than we thought (or at least I thought). good idea. they probably know this already but being the soulless bastards they are, they need to be reminded. no matter what other games they will release, they will always be the shittiest gaming company in my eyes.
Sexy ^.^
Things have been like this for too long, but I havent noticed since I DL almost everything now :/
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Uh, for everyone saying RA2 died after EA bought out WW...
Plz look up Xwis.
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I stopped buying EA games 8 years ago and have never really been temped to buy one of their games until now. Mirror's Edge looks very promising and if it turn out well, I will break my first rule of purchasing video games.
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Yeah one shouldn't buy DRMed stuff, ever.
Funny/sad thing is though that DRM will lead to more piracy (because only the pirated versions will work without any restrictions!) and that will make EA think they need even more protections in the future.
If they don't realize soon that they're fighting against their customers (not against the pirates, there's no stopping it anyway) by introducing such crap, their games will continue to not meet the sale expectations.
Good games will sell even when they have zero copy protections. Sins of a Solar Empire is one such example, it sold very well and there are no problems with it (except that it's Windows only, that should be fixed... :p).
The chances of EA realizing this are small though, and other game companies (or rather: publishers) will also continue to restrict their games even more. But you can only fool your customers so much, at some point all will realize that they're buying crap over which they don't have any control, and then the company will hopefully be in trouble. That point seems to be now.
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The thing that has me worried is that EA bought out Bioware, so Dragon Age might have this shit.
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i hope blizzard never uses DRM
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On September 28 2008 02:44 L wrote:
Uh, for everyone saying RA2 died after EA bought out WW...
Plz look up Xwis.
Man. Nox and RA2 and all Westwood games (except renegade? I don't remember) were down for months after Westwood went down.
EA completely ignored and shut down all ways to get to the Westwood games patches etc and doesn't answer to support about those games. Xwis has nothing to do with EA, and both RA2 and Nox online population went very low, that's what I meant with it dying.
EA only releases a few patches for every game, and they often make the games worse with each patch. A big reason why they made so much money is because of all those licensed sports games which they make minor updates on every year and sell for same price as before. Worse thing is that there are actually idiots buying those piece of crap games. All those movie licensed games they make are the same, if not worse.
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