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letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
September 20 2008 04:36 GMT
#1
Hi guys:

I have a math problem i need to solve, although it sounds easy but i just can't get the answer, can someone help me out?

Find the equation of the tangent line of y = x+3 (whole thing squared rooted) at point (6,3).

Please don't use derivatives to solve it. Thank you.=)

hehe...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 04:58:56
September 20 2008 04:41 GMT
#2
just find some x values incredibly close to x=6, like x=5.999 and find the slope between that point and (6,3)

edit: oops i meant x values
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 20 2008 05:05 GMT
#3
1/2 * ((6)+3)^(-1/2)

1/6?

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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
September 20 2008 05:11 GMT
#4
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 05:13:41
September 20 2008 05:12 GMT
#5
http://www.math.hmc.edu/calculus/tutorials/limit_definition/

Read it, understand it, follow the example WITH A PICTURE LIKE YOU SHOULD DRAW A PICTURE(graph) AND SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE

If that still doesn't help shoot me a pm and we'll figure something out.
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inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
September 20 2008 05:18 GMT
#6
The slope is 1/6, you can estimate this (since you're not using calculus) by doing what Nitrogen said, ie ( 3 - [ (5.99+3)^(1/2) ] ) / (.01) = .1667.....

Because (6,3) is 6 units in the x direction away from x = 0 and the slope is 1/6, the line will intersect the y axis one unit below (6,3), so it crosses at (0,2). Equation of line is y = (1/6)x + 2
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
September 20 2008 05:21 GMT
#7
The only way I can think of of doing it without derivatives is something like:

1. Write the general equation for a line passing through (6,3), with the gradient as an unknown.
2. Find the points of intersection of that line and the y=sqrt(x-3) graph (the x values). Just write down the equation that x has to satisfy, it'll probably be a quadratic in x.
3. Find the values of the gradient so that the determinant of the quadratic is zero (so that the line only intersects the graph at 1 point). You'll probably get a few different values, so just look at what the line looks like for each value and pick the one that looks the best.

No idea why you'd do that, which would probably take a page or two of boring computations, when by taking the derivative you'd be able to do it in 2 lines though.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
September 20 2008 07:33 GMT
#8
Anyways take my advise as I'm a math tutor for my college and I just had alot of Math1A people asking me this question.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 20 2008 09:01 GMT
#9
Well he did so no derivatives, so...
No I'm never serious.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 20 2008 11:16 GMT
#10
without derivatives you can only estimate where it's going , but it's really obvious after a while <_<
are you trying to just grasp the logic behind it?
if you understand it its essentially pointless to do it without the derivative
i mean, all u can do is guess and check numbers with the derivative right?
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 11:25:35
September 20 2008 11:24 GMT
#11
here's some extra practice if u want it
i'm taking calc BC senior year ; so we're in the same boat
http://archives.math.utk.edu/visual.calculus/2/definition.7/index.html

WITH A PICTURE LIKE YOU SHOULD DRAW A PICTURE(graph) AND SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE

definately, google some graph paper if u don't have any and plot it
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