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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 31 2008 06:30 GMT
#1
When I try to log in to U.S West, it isn't working. It does the regular
"Connecting to fastest server
Please Wait.."
bullshit then exits back to the multiplayer screen. I tried logging in to iCCup and U.S East etc, and they work, but I play U.S West and I can't log on, does anyone know why?
Also no stupid questions like "is yur internetz pluged inm?" because it obviously is if I'm posting here.
Anyone help?

*****
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
August 31 2008 06:37 GMT
#2
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
August 31 2008 06:40 GMT
#3
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.


QFT
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-31 06:46:45
August 31 2008 06:45 GMT
#4
On August 31 2008 15:40 Spenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.


QFT

didnt feel like saying that myself to the first poster, thnx haha
Still no progress though, I've waited lik ~15 mins inbetween trying, incase its some d/c shit, or if it says someone is using my CD key, but it doesnt even give me an error, it just goes back to the multiplayer screen like as if i hit cancel, which i know i am not doing
EDIT: and yes i have searched any threads like this already, their problems are different than mine, or no effective feedback was given.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 31 2008 06:48 GMT
#5
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.

He has a drunk blog thread now.... which explains the stupid post. Although that's not really a good excuse...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 31 2008 06:54 GMT
#6
On August 31 2008 15:48 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.

He has a drunk blog thread now.... which explains the stupid post. Although that's not really a good excuse...

Wow, shut up, that shit was fucking hilarious.

Props to ZaplinG
Peace~
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 31 2008 06:59 GMT
#7
On August 31 2008 15:54 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2008 15:48 Grobyc wrote:
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.

He has a drunk blog thread now.... which explains the stupid post. Although that's not really a good excuse...

Wow, shut up, that shit was fucking hilarious.

Props to ZaplinG

Dude, if I wanted a reply like that I would have posted on 4chan, I posted for help asking nicely, and that's all I was wanting to receive, there are other blogs for fun where posts like that would have made me laugh, but that honestly didn't make me laugh one bit...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 31 2008 07:00 GMT
#8
On August 31 2008 15:59 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2008 15:54 fanatacist wrote:
On August 31 2008 15:48 Grobyc wrote:
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.

He has a drunk blog thread now.... which explains the stupid post. Although that's not really a good excuse...

Wow, shut up, that shit was fucking hilarious.

Props to ZaplinG

Dude, if I wanted a reply like that I would have posted on 4chan, I posted for help asking nicely, and that's all I was wanting to receive, there are other blogs for fun where posts like that would have made me laugh, but that honestly didn't make me laugh one bit...

Because you are the one who can't use the search function and are having problems with connecting, obviously it won't be funny to you. It's like when something embarrassing happens to people in public, everyone laughs but them.
Peace~
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-31 07:18:04
August 31 2008 07:08 GMT
#9
On August 31 2008 16:00 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2008 15:59 Grobyc wrote:
On August 31 2008 15:54 fanatacist wrote:
On August 31 2008 15:48 Grobyc wrote:
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.

He has a drunk blog thread now.... which explains the stupid post. Although that's not really a good excuse...

Wow, shut up, that shit was fucking hilarious.

Props to ZaplinG

Dude, if I wanted a reply like that I would have posted on 4chan, I posted for help asking nicely, and that's all I was wanting to receive, there are other blogs for fun where posts like that would have made me laugh, but that honestly didn't make me laugh one bit...

Because you are the one who can't use the search function and are having problems with connecting, obviously it won't be funny to you. It's like when something embarrassing happens to people in public, everyone laughs but them.

Wtf, are you blind?
i said "and yes i have searched any threads like this already, their problems are different than mine, or no effective feedback was given."
The search function didn't help, I'm not noob enough where I didn't check there first.
edit: Also i dont see how this relates to your example, any other time i see threads about people asking for technical help i dont often see posts as useless as that. This thread asking for help isnt any more embarassing then the dozens of others i have seen.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
August 31 2008 08:03 GMT
#10
chill out /b/rother
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
August 31 2008 08:05 GMT
#11
you should've quoted smurg thought
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 31 2008 08:07 GMT
#12
On August 31 2008 17:03 shavingcream66 wrote:
chill out /b/rother

lol I cant even remember the last time i visited /b/ O_o
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 31 2008 08:20 GMT
#13
On August 31 2008 15:37 ZaplinG wrote:
its been posted before, but here is the solution:

you have to beat the other servers before you can get on uswest. start off with useast and dominate 10-0, then you can upgrade to europe. dominate there 10-0 then you can upgrade to asia. Dominate there 12-0, and then you finally get to play at uswest.

its not that hard, man, just practice a couple cheese strats and do that like 10 times. either that or use a winbot.


wow are you completely retarded or something?


you have to get 10-0 on east, 12-0 on asia, 14-0 on europe, in that order. if you lose a game on west you get demoted back to east and you have to start over.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
August 31 2008 11:07 GMT
#14
How can you 10-0 east with all of those hackers?
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
August 31 2008 11:08 GMT
#15
Have you been abusing hacks or using (possibly) blocked/banned battle.net keys, not necessarily in starcraft, but in any blizzard's game?
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
August 31 2008 11:22 GMT
#16
I get this occasionally, it's probably a temp IP ban, just wait it out (if you want to check, change your CD-key, should get the same problem). Might take a few days, might take 2 weeks. I'm not sure what the reason is, b.net is really sucky so probably thought you were flooding or something.
No I'm never serious.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
August 31 2008 11:35 GMT
#17
yeah this is an ip ban, and it's probably temporary

could be anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 weeks
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 31 2008 12:07 GMT
#18
you can get 10-0 playing 5v3 cpu. or 7v1cpu
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
August 31 2008 14:56 GMT
#19
On August 31 2008 20:07 SnowFantasy wrote:
How can you 10-0 east with all of those hackers?

Because they suck so bad that even with the hacks they will be tamed.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
August 31 2008 15:19 GMT
#20
I think youve been banned from us west cuz maybe you used third party programm, you spammed on a channel, spammed clicking to enter a channel whose full,etc..
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
August 31 2008 15:56 GMT
#21
Try changing your cdkey with a keygen that works on bnet. If you're banned, that should work. If not, try reinstalling?
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 31 2008 16:15 GMT
#22
it's just an IP ban. first violation is a few hours (don't remember how long)
second is 3 days
then it goes up somewhat linearly up to 2 weeks

reasons? maybe blizzard felt like it. maybe you tried to join BNet with an invalid cdkey in another game (i got my w3 banned for 2 weeks while trying to get a d2 cdkey working). maybe you juts got really unlucky with a 3rd party prog. who knows
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 01 2008 06:29 GMT
#23
I haven't spammed anything, I haven't been hacking, I haven't been told I'm banned, I haven't done anything wrong to get banned, which is what is most puzzling. I still cannot connect.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 01 2008 06:42 GMT
#24
I tried reinstalling, and now it says "Your connection to Battle.Net has been Interrupted"
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
September 01 2008 06:47 GMT
#25
You don't have to have done anything wrong. This is blizzard's "fear tactic", they want to warn you that even playing on battle.net can get you banned.

Anyway, waste some time google-ing the error message if you want.
No I'm never serious.
TabyLing
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia69 Posts
September 01 2008 09:26 GMT
#26
DAN!!??!?!?!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 03 2008 05:32 GMT
#27
HELLS YES! It's finally working! =D
But I reinstalled multiple times so I lost all my maps and replays =(
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 03 2008 05:40 GMT
#28
On September 03 2008 14:32 Grobyc wrote:
HELLS YES! It's finally working! =D
But I reinstalled multiple times so I lost all my maps and replays =(


why didn't you just back them up...
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 04 2008 02:10 GMT
#29
On September 03 2008 14:40 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 14:32 Grobyc wrote:
HELLS YES! It's finally working! =D
But I reinstalled multiple times so I lost all my maps and replays =(


why didn't you just back them up...

Forgot
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
September 04 2008 02:20 GMT
#30
On September 04 2008 11:10 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 14:40 Nitrogen23 wrote:
On September 03 2008 14:32 Grobyc wrote:
HELLS YES! It's finally working! =D
But I reinstalled multiple times so I lost all my maps and replays =(


why didn't you just back them up...

Forgot


silly goose
UNFUCK YOURSELF
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 04 2008 02:33 GMT
#31
why even bother reinstalling?

you have to wait it out, thats pretty much the only thing that seems to work
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 04 2008 02:58 GMT
#32
I didn't know I was temp banned or anything, I thought it was a 5 min like when it randomly says "_____ _____ is using your CD-Key" when the name it displays is me, I'm like wtf, ofc I know I'm using my CD-Key... I know I didn't do anything to get banned so I figured if it didn't fix itself within the next day, it wouldn't fix itself in the next week. Therefore I figured I had to do something manually to fix it, and I forgot to back up my files. It's alright though, the only maps I used often were obs maps on B.net, and iCCup maps for the abyss, which were both easy to dl on the iCCup site.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
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